[jeffksu]

Just going to suspend exposure for awhile and let things simmer...you know simmering always makes things better...BODOG was swamped today, just got off the phone making sure my withdraw is safe and the lady said they have never been busier...

[increasedodds]

Last I checked, no poker sites or sportsbooks have been shut down unless the owners/ceo landed on US soil. I'm pretty certain the sportsbook people know not to visit at this point. At least the owners of the big ones know that.

Further it would be great if these people take this to court. They wont when they get offered a fine instead of 20 years, but could the feds really find a jury of 12 to convict someone for hosting poker? All the money laundering shit goes out the window if the jury doesn't think online poker is illegal.

[Pokerjoe]

There's so freaking much fail on this issue.

Guys, this isn't about gambling. It's about money laundering and bank fraud. Anyone, in any business, doing these things is going to get busted. If the sportsbooks aren't doing this crap, they don't have to worry. And they aren't.

I know most of you are panicking, but you know something? If the books really are in trouble, you're not going to get your money by asking for it now. And if they aren't, you'll still get it if you wait a few weeks. So grow a set and chill.

[Pokerjoe]

Bodog's poker room apparently is up about 20% today over last Saturday. Like I said elsewhere, this disaster for the big 3 sites is probably going to help the rest of the sites, including the sportsbooks in the long run. And how can it hurt? One last time: this isn't about gambling. It's about bank fraud. And from the looks of the indictment, it's bad. These guys are in serious trouble, much more so than Neteller, whose illegality was a matter of opinion. Here, the illegality of the actions as stated is a matter of fact. There's no precedent needing to be established, no stretch of legal interpretation. If the facts are as alleged, the defendants are ******.

Except for the run on the bank effect, this is not a sports book issue.

[Extra Innings]

There's so freaking much fail on this issue.

Guys, this isn't about gambling. It's about money laundering and bank fraud. Anyone, in any business, doing these things is going to get busted. If the sportsbooks aren't doing this crap, they don't have to worry. And they aren't.

I know most of you are panicking, but you know something? If the books really are in trouble, you're not going to get your money by asking for it now. And if they aren't, you'll still get it if you wait a few weeks. So grow a set and chill.

You're kidding me right?

[goblue12]

Done off-shore at the end of the month.

[Extra Innings]

Done off-shore at the end of the month.

Good Luck. Only time until they catch up with these offshore entities...they're doing the same thing as the three sites that went down....just a bit more discreetly.

[gdoom]

Absolutley nothing! These offshore sportsbooks are seperate from Pokerstars, Fulltilt, ect. These MAJOR Sportbooks are NOT owned and operated within the US, therefore, will NOT be affected. Also, the industry is too demanding and will never be damaged.

[David]

No reason to panic with regards to sportsbooks.

[mcbaseball10]

What effect will these transgressions have on the SBR poker room? Are my points still safe?

[Cuse0323]

Absolutley nothing! These offshore sportsbooks are seperate from Pokerstars, Fulltilt, ect. These MAJOR Sportbooks are NOT owned and operated within the US, therefore, will NOT be affected. Also, the industry is too demanding and will never be damaged.

Oh to be so naive.

[Santo]

The only reason to be worried is if it signifies a step-up in enforcement actions. It seems though that this was a case of an informant falling into their hands and an easy/obvious prosecution.

[OTL]

None whatsoever. And if it ever came to the government shutting down the offshore industry to North Americans, I'd just pack my bags and move over there...I hate this ******* place!

[M.W.]

Regardless if you think the way the law was slipped in an unrelated bill should be illegal and it was created by selfish politicians, it is a law and is illegal for US banks to move money for gaming....

That's not accurate. It's illegal for US banks to move money for ILLEGAL gaming. In the Fifth Circuit (TX, MS, LA), at least, it is legal to bet with an offshore sportsbook.

[StraitShooter]

Whats so great about this poll?..Half the answers are stupid..More speculation from guys who dont have a fuken clue whats gonna happen

since when do the off shore sportsbooks advertise and operate on us soil like these clowns who went down did?

Last I checked David Carruthers got his ass busted because he was prancing around US airports

When was the last time Uncle Sam went to Gibraltar or Costa Rica to bust a sports book?

Off shore books aint fukin going nowhere....The only thing to be concerned about is whether or not funding and withdrawal methods will be hampered..and with the appetite the public has for sports gambling there will always be ways to fund

worry about picking your next winners..the books aint going no where

Ohhh fishead your my hero the sky is falling the sky is falling..None of you have a fuken clue what is gonna happen next because the magnitude of this situation is unprecedented


oohhhh bodog becky what do you think..ohhhh

thank god bill dozier chimed in now we feel so secure

nobody knows shit!

[mtneer1212]

As long as the books limit their payments, and not get too rambunctious with advertising, they should be okay here, but I will still limit my liability more this year, which is always a good policy anyway.

[StraitShooter]

As long as the books limit their payments, and not get too rambunctious with advertising, they should be okay here, but I will still limit my liability more this year, which is always a good policy anyway.

but of course..its called logic

[Cuse0323]

Whats so great about this poll?..Half the answers are stupid..More speculation from guys who dont have a fuken clue whats gonna happen

since when do the off shore sportsbooks advertise and operate on us soil like these clowns who went down did?

Last I checked David Carruthers got his ass busted because he was prancing around US airports

When was the last time Uncle Sam went to Gibraltar or Costa Rica to bust a sports book?

Off shore books aint fukin going nowhere....The only thing to be concerned about is whether or not funding and withdrawal methods will be hampered..and with the appetite the public has for sports gambling there will always be ways to fund

worry about picking your next winners..the books aint going no where

Ohhh fishead your my hero the sky is falling the sky is falling..None of you have a fuken clue what is gonna happen next because the magnitude of this situation is unprecedented


oohhhh bodog becky what do you think..ohhhh

thank god bill dozier chimed in now we feel so secure

nobody knows shit!

basically all that needs to be said.

[nyplayer33]

agree with Dozer, how dumb can you be to run a daily show both big sites and pretty much advertise these sites over and over...you bring exposure u get screwed...

[StraitShooter]

Yup..Remember when Calvin had to hide better than bin laden or there would be no bodog beckasoid

[konck]

Really dont play online poker or casino to much ...I dont feel like funding the crooks.
I think this is a blessing for the USA to attack and make some money thru there own online poker
and funds some things like socail security

[20Four7]

It will not affect me.... pinny has banned us players so money there is safe. Party poker is the same deal. I don't play stars, and I've done nothing to reduce my exposure at FTP. I don't think this affects anything except US poker players.

[20Four7]

There's so freaking much fail on this issue.

Guys, this isn't about gambling. It's about money laundering and bank fraud. Anyone, in any business, doing these things is going to get busted. If the sportsbooks aren't doing this crap, they don't have to worry. And they aren't.

I know most of you are panicking, but you know something? If the books really are in trouble, you're not going to get your money by asking for it now. And if they aren't, you'll still get it if you wait a few weeks. So grow a set and chill.

you aren't serious? In the US money laundering is moving money from america to your site. Accepting US players is moneylaundering. In the real world it isn't but the US is horrible at not accepting the rest of the world doesn't follow them.

[stogies]

zero for me. 2/3 of my betting is with my local have only kept about $2000 in 2 offshore books and keep my w/d and deposits to a minimum for last 4-5 years anyway.

[shade3599]

With me getting my money stuck on UB, I wouldn't take a chance. I don't have a lot of money on bodog or sportsbook, I lose all the time, I would be taking my money off and running

[no1here]

Pokerjoe is right on, 20Four7 and Extra Innings don't get it.

There's so freaking much fail on this issue. Guys, this isn't about gambling. It's about money laundering and bank fraud. Anyone, in any business, doing these things is going to get busted. If the sportsbooks aren't doing this crap, they don't have to worry. And they aren't. I know most of you are panicking, but you know something? If the books really are in trouble, you're not going to get your money by asking for it now. And if they aren't, you'll still get it if you wait a few weeks. So grow a set and chill.

[Spanks]

man ...stupidity at its finest...the online sportsbooks use the same methods as the seized poker sites...banks and payment processors...currently some books have now suspended *************** payouts(betus) and have increased their waiting time for withdrawals(by all methods)...if you think yer money is safe and nothing will happen as a result of what has transpired ...you are a FOOL...

[Tunes]

I love being told my idiots what's going to happen next. You guys didn't know the DOJ indictments were coming down, why do you know if there will repercussions for sportsbetting sites? Having said that, it's nice to find 2-3 coherent and intelligent posts in a 100-post thread (PokerJoe). At least some people have reasoned opinions.

The guys that would know anything are the guys that run this place and talk to houses for a living. Granted, they might not even know since this is a test case and the books may not even want to talk yet. But if ANYONE would know, it's them. So read what they post and wait.

[Spanks]

dont worry ...yer money is safe...wow...you are a moron...

[Tunes]

You have no idea if the money's safe, not safe, if payouts will be delayed, etc. You have no clue. Indictments are handed down on a Friday at 1pm and on a Sunday you're telling everyone their money's gone. Don't wait for this week to see if anyone gets paid, just tell them that it's all gone to Hell.

And hit Command+B and see what happens.

[Keelo]

It will be a couple of years before they mess with the books. First they have to see how smooth this poker ordeal goes. Closing down the big 3 then giving the online poker rights in USA to Caesar Entertainment or MGM. My guess those sites would offer both poker and sportsbook like Bodog. Then clean house of all the sportbooks and the degenerates would have no where else to go.

[Spanks]

You have no idea if the money's safe, not safe, if payouts will be delayed, etc. You have no clue. Indictments are handed down on a Friday at 1pm and on a Sunday you're telling everyone their money's gone. Don't wait for this week to see if anyone gets paid, just tell them that it's all gone to Hell.

And hit Command+B and see what happens.

go deposit some more money square...its good times right now...

[Tunes]

Again, offering nothing. Your story has become tedious.

[Kindred]

i'm not going to let the government dictate what I can do with MY money. Anyone who just bends over and takes it, pulling all money out of offshore sites is a pussy in my opinion

FU DOJ

[StraitShooter]

man ...stupidity at its finest...the online sportsbooks use the same methods as the seized poker sites...banks and payment processors...currently some books have now suspended *************** payouts(betus) and have increased their waiting time for withdrawals(by all methods)...if you think yer money is safe and nothing will happen as a result of what has transpired ...you are a FOOL...

Anyone who plays at betus is a fool and they no pay slow pay anyways..whats happened so different from friday @1 pm am offshore?..pls tell us what books are slow paying "as a result of this incident".....very few books process payouts on sunday and some dont on saturday anyways

You may be right a week from now it could be worse

I will play off shore and just keep a hundred here and there have my fun and cant get hurt...nothings changed for me but when it does I'll let you know