[ms61853]

http://poligazette.com/2008/09/23/bi...-was-terrible/

Senator Joe Biden, Senator Barack Obama’s running mate, told Katie Couric of “CBS Evening News” Monday that the ad released by the Obama campaign in which Senator John McCain is ridiculed as old, old-fashioned out-of-touch and unable to send e-mails, was “terrible.”

“I thought that was terrible, by the way,” Biden said when asked about the ad.

“I didn’t know we did it and if I had anything to do with it, we’d have never done it,” he added.

The comments were a wonderful break with the tone of the debate in the last few weeks. Until now, Obama staffers and advisers publicly supported the ad.

The ad was, of course, “terrible.” It was an ad that belonged in the old politics, not in the new politics Obama says he supports. Realizing that a line was crossed - even for old politics the ad was “terrible” - Biden did the decent thing; he condemned it.

It did not take long before the campaign went on damage control, however. Biden’s remarks were seen as a potential problem for the campaign. The campaign immediately released an ‘explanation.’ Biden did not watch the ad himself, he said in a statement, he responded to what he had heard about it in the media.

“Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Sen. McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize, especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators,” Biden said in the statement.

Although partisan Democrats will undoubtedly be angry with Biden for his initial comment, and supportive of his ‘explanation,’ Biden’s initial honesty should be celebrated. Those who care about the tone of the debate will undoubtedly agree with Biden’s initial statement on the ad. The ads have become increasingly negative in recent weeks, both campaigns have crossed the line on one occasion or another. If Biden would have stuck to his initial statement, perhaps the McCain campaign would have reached out and the tone of the debate would have changed.

A lost opportunity then.

[ms61853]

Obama bitch slaps Biden over AIG.

Biden kicks Obama over his vile campaign ads.

These two assclowns must think they're still running aginst eachother in the Democratic Primary.

[fiveteamer]

Really hate negative ads.

Please tell me why I should vote for you, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy.

[bettilimbroke999]

Really hate negative ads.

Please tell me why I should vote for you, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy.

There's no reason to vote for either only reasons NOT to vote for McCain, worst election in history, country's on its way straight down the tubes, just vote Obama for the normal speed tubes or vote McCain for the express tubes

[daggerkobe]

Why hasn't McCoot apologized to the Asian community about his racial slur "Gooks"?

Or calling Putin the president of Germany?

Or Iran for saying they supported and trained Al Qaeda when they hate each other?

Or to his geography teachers for saying Iraq borders Pakistan?

[element1286]

Really hate negative ads.

Please tell me why I should vote for you, not why I shouldn't vote for the other guy.

I completely agree.

[dwaechte]

We have the same thing going on up here in Canada. We have an election in October and the ads are flying. They're all complete bullshit, using tiny soundbites to twist the opponents position in order to fool voters. Sadly, parties won't **** off with this type of thing until it's proven to be ineffective, and I'm not sure that it is with a lot of the voting public.

[daggerkobe]

Its absolutely hilarious to me when republicans whine about "unfairness" of political ads when they are always spamming public forums with Internet rumors and lies that even snopes.com says are blatant fabrications.

[yisman]

Biden is a funny, funny dude.

Couric: And you guys haven’t been completely guilt-free, making fun of John McCain’s inability to use a computer.

Biden: I thought that was terrible, by the way.

Couric: Why’d you do it then?

Biden: I didn’t know we did it, if I’d have known we did we’d have never done it, I don’t think Barack, you know, I just think that was, ah

Couric: Did Barack Obama approve that ad? He said he did, right?

Biden: Yeah, the answer is, I don’t, I don’t think anything was intentional about that, they were trying to make another point.

Then his campaign tries to rein him in and he responds with:

I was asked about an ad I’d never seen, reacting merely to press reports. As I said right then, I knew there was nothing intentionally personal in the criticism of Senator McCain’s views which look backwards not forwards and are out of touch with the new economic challenges we face today. Having now reviewed the ad, it is even more clear to me that given the disgraceful tenor of Senator McCain’s ads and their persistent falsehoods, his campaign is in no position to criticize, especially when they continue to distort Barack’s votes on an issue as personal as keeping kids safe from sexual predators.

also...

Joe Biden's denunciation of his own campaign's ad to Katie Couric got so much attention last night that another odd note in the interview slipped by.

He was speaking about the role of the White House in a financial crisis.

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn't just talk about the princes of greed," Biden told Couric. "He said, 'Look, here's what happened.'"

As Reason's Jesse Walker footnotes it: "And if you owned an experimental TV set in 1929, you would have seen him. And you would have said to yourself, 'Who is that guy? What happened to President Hoover?'"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmi...y.html?showall

[rory borealis]

Obama bitch slaps Biden over AIG.

Biden kicks Obama over his vile campaign ads.

These two assclowns must think they're still running aginst eachother in the Democratic Primary.

Yeahhhh...but then who are you to talk, ms61853--my pro-Zionist little friend?

You still haven't been able to point out JUST WHERE in the hyperlink that you provided:


http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/politics-e...-movement.html

..where the discussion of the White Van with the mural of a plane crashing into NYC was contained?

Now I wouldn't DREAM OF contacting the family of SFC Jason Hernandez who was killed in Iraq...but Streetsboro, OH is just not all that big of a community.


http://www.legacy.com/GB/GuestBookVi...sonID=94154215


I like you rengade Zionists like MonkeyF0cker & EnglishMike...no discipline. More to the point, I like bringing in people who STUCK OUT THEIR NECKS for you pro-Zionists...

...only to realize that THE NYPD RADIO DISPATCH was floating out their in the wild all along....

Yesssss! Dr Frank Greening...the --- cough--- experrrrt trotted out by ABC NEWS to explain the collapse of the WTC Towers at near free-fall speeds...

...He stuck his neck out for you Zionists and now pro-Zionist TV Show Host, Ron Weick(aka POMEROO at the James Randi Forum) is trying to provide distance for him & Video Compositor, Steve Wright SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I SHOWED THEM OF THE EXISTENCE of......

.....that NYPD RADIO dispatchof the Police who kick the living shit out of the MOSSAD AGENTS for driving around in a van on 9/11/2001 with a MURAL PAINTED ON IT of a plane crashing into NYC.
Then there is the Toronto Globe & Mail photo of MOSSAD AGENT, Sivan Kurzburg talked about in the above thread.

Then there is the MINETA TRANSPORTATION REPORT...the "smoking gun" of the coverup attempt....


Yesssss!

Maybe invite you, EnglishMike & MonkeyF0cker to explain to FREAKED OUT video compositor, Steve Wright & chemist Frank Greening...two people who are FREAKED OUT already..and explain to them

...how it ended up that Steve Wright, Frank Greening & pro-Zionist, Ron Weick were stuck with explaining the:
1)Kurzburg photo
2)NYPD Radio Dispatch
3)Mineta Transportation report

..to the people on that LEGACY e-mail list who state "contact me".

A wasted human life--the hurt of a family & friends...wasted defending against an enemy that didn't exist.

But wait!!! ms61853--- you, ME, MonkeyF0cker, & EnglishMike ---TOGETHER (in Willie Bee's presence & with his guidance being sought) can turn the senseless death of SFC Jason Hernandez into some kind of "meaningful sacrifice"

The same people in th US Military-Industrial Complex who had the pro-Zionists stage the 9/11 WTC Attacks....

..now plan to have the Zionists plant 20 nuke suitcase bombs in 20 American cities...they blow one up...murdering MILLIONS of adults as well as 4-year olds and 8-year olds and 15-year olds...

...and then the FBI, ATF & Homeland Security will MIRACULOUSLY INTERCEPT the other 19 before detonation.


You, me, MonkeyF0cker & EnglishMike can "short-circuit"/derail that from happening

ms61853.....Would you like to tell Willie Bee that you are NOW GOING TO assist in turning Jason Hernandez's death into some kind of "meaningful sacrifice"?



..sent to his death by the PERPETRATORS OF THE WTC ATTACKS themselves.

Heck, Willie Bee still hasn't heard the NYPD Radio Dispatch...Willie Bee still has not seen the MINETA TRANSPORTATION REPORT

Willie Bee still has not seen the UK Guardian article on Sivan Kurzburg

Willie Bee HAS ONLY SEEN the Toronto Globe & Mail article

Frank Greening & Steve Wright have seen them allllll....and Frank Greening FREAKED OUT when I invited Ron Weick to post the hyperlink to the NYPD Radio Dispatch to Sergeant Lou Testa of the Richfield, OH Police Department

Ron Weick sprung into action to shut up the yaps of the pro-Zionists at the JREF Forum---who just kept painting themselves in a DEEPER CORNER when in futility they tried to protect Stve Wright.

...and Ron Weick, Frank Greening & Steve Wright will freak out when they are asked to provide those hyperlinks to the people of Streetsboro, OH as well as ONCE MORE the Richfield Police Department

...and Ron Weick has you, EnglishMike & MonkeyF0cker to thank for it.

I'll PM Willie Bee copies of the e-mail postings--- by now Willie Bee has got to be curious as all heck AS TO JUST what is ACTUALLY said in that NYPD Radio Dispatch