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    wiseacre
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    I need a pro's advice please

    2008 NFL my record ATS was 124/69/5
    2009 was 131/73/7

    when i started hearing that there might be a lockout this year i applied my theory to NCAA and the last 3 weeks leading up to the tourny i was 59/27/4. i have applied my theory to nba nhl mbl it does not work but it seems really consistent in nfl and perhaps better in ncaa bb
    I would love to know what kind of records a pro bettor has before i take the plunge. Any and all input appreciated.

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    I would increase my unit bet by 50% if the system holds true for 1000 bets. if you achieve another 1000 wagers and it is still holding, I would go another 50%. You have likely reached statistical significance at this point. I am the cautious type, I would go another 1000 wagers and if it still holds true--then wager the max you can per unit and enjoy your new lifestyle.

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    I have a question for you, need your name and address.

    I have a 7 figure cheque with your name on it in return for your picks.

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    I would borrow large sums of money, if you are not properly funded now, and bet like crazy immediately. If your system holds you will be living the life of the rich and famous within weeks, as its very difficult to go backwards when you win 2 out of every 3 wagers you place. You are going places friend....and in the words of the great Billy Joel....."Man, what are you doing here".

    Congratulations on devising such a sweet system that wins 2 out of every 3 games played. You will be making history as no system has ever been so successful. Just remember us common folk back here when you reach the peaks your are destined for and throw us a bone once in awhile in the form of winning picks from your system that wins 2 out of every 3 wagers placed.

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    Is this a back dated system? Because back dated systems have a habit of losing once put into practice.

    Otherwise you make Billy Walters look like a Muppet. Perhaps you have just run like god for three seasons but otherwise you are going to put Vegas out of business.

    So your numbers are bullshit.

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    Numbers are real, i played on paper except for a few days in vegas which had a nice profit. The ncaa shocked me because it took a lot less work. I played 15 games on March 17th for 770 each @ the hard rock and went 9/4/1 so it was worth the trip. I am looking for advice going forward and thanks for your input.

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    This questions is for all you porn starts. I have a 12-13 inch unit and was not sure if this was considered large or not.

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    How many games are there in NFL each year? Not counting the playoffs, there are 256? And you made wagers on 198 of them in 2008 and 211 of them in 2009? Something doesn't seem right...

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    You are hitting 64% on the NFL and practically betting the board every week and yet you are here seeking advice? This is your life's calling, son. It's time to man up and move to Vegas and start doing your thang.

    I see your system transferred seamlessly from the NFL to NCAA hoops. Do you think it will work in MLB, Nascar and golf, too? If so, I'm a little down in my luck of late and could use a helping hand if you catch my drift.

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    I need your advice.

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    I only play week 3-16 and then dont play if my line matches the opening line. i tried my theory during playoffs it doesnt work. if anyone is seriously interested i have all data from all games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseacre View Post
    I only play week 3-16 and then dont play if my line matches the opening line. i tried my theory during playoffs it doesnt work. if anyone is seriously interested i have all data from all games.
    Variance

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    This questions is for all you porn starts. I have a 12-13 inch unit and was not sure if this was considered large or not.

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    Lets add up your records (I'm not going to look at your pushes):

    314-169 = about 65% wins (314/483)

    Is this variance?

    A 52% bettor would expect to hit 252/483
    E(x) =252
    Standard Dev: (483(.52)(.48))^.5 = about 11

    (314-252)/11 = 5.64 = it is extremely unlikely that you are a 52% capper

    The probability that you are a 58% capper is still very unlikely.

    If this record is true, you will make money

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    Haha...the key to being a "pro bettor" is consistency...you need to hit in the region of 56% at least over the course of a long track record. I would spend a little money and go to a bet tracking website...they are objective places to put in your bets and record them, your record will be kept there, and if you are doing as great as you say, people will start e-mailing you and offering you ca$h for your picks...the goal of sports betting should be to make as much money as possible with the least risk necessary to take.
    I would start tracking my picks on a website that does that, you can find them easily, just google it...you will have to pay for it, but it's one of the best ways to prove that you are legitimate.

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    thanks I had no idea there was websites like that

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    I am more than a little curious about a "system" which translates from the NFL directly over to NCAABB. When I tried to segue from a solid NFL model over to NCAA Football, it took a large amount of rethinking and adjustment just to get THAT right.

    Uh...and it's the same sport.

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    I am more than a little curious about a "system" which translates from the NFL directly over to NCAABB. When I tried to segue from a solid NFL model over to NCAA Football, it took a large amount of rethinking and adjustment just to get THAT right.

    Uh...and it's the same sport.

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    you are probably onto something, but will it stay this good?? I mean we are talking 65 % !!!!

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    Thanks for the input

    I appreciate all the info some of it was even helpful! Thanks all

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    PS

    Quote Originally Posted by wiseacre View Post
    I appreciate all the info some of it was even helpful! Thanks all
    My theory is not a system and according to todays results REALLY doesnt work on MLB

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    interesting to see the fella asked the opinion of a pro and gets all these relpies never knew there was so many on here
    Pancho sansa is the exception. a very smart under the radar sharp over the years.

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    interesting to see the fella asked the opinion of a pro and gets all these relpies never knew there was so many on here
    Pancho sanza is the exception. a very smart under the radar sharp over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseacre View Post
    I played 15 games on March 17th for 770 each @ the hard rock and went 9/4/1 so it was worth the trip.
    What was the result of the 15th game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosseman22 View Post
    I need your advice.
    Same here; that record ATS is ridiculous.

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    As everyone else has said - you were running above expectation over that stretch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseacre View Post
    Numbers are real, i played on paper except for a few days in vegas which had a nice profit. The ncaa shocked me because it took a lot less work. I played 15 games on March 17th for 770 each @ the hard rock and went 9/4/1 so it was worth the trip. I am looking for advice going forward and thanks for your input.
    You have almost certainly overestimated your edge, perhaps aided by the forgiving method of playing on paper. Players can hit 65% over a NFL season, but luck may factor in heavily over the relatively small sample size of one NFL season. I've seen enough seasonal contest standings to know that most players who fly that high one season are back down to earth the following season. If you truly had two of such seasons in a row, and can produce the same results going forward, you don't need advice. (My advice would be to be ready for a correction in the NFL.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho sanza View Post
    I have a question for you, need your name and address.

    I have a 7 figure cheque with your name on it in return for your picks.
    I offer a 7 figure cheque plus a 2 for 1 Sweet Tomatoes coupon!
    I also found a $20 casino Matchplay coupon in today's paper and will include that.
    Last edited by Scooter; 04-27-11 at 01:47 AM.

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    I truly believe this post without proof. I have to go now... Sasquatch is doing my taxes and I am going to the titty bar later with a few leprechauns

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    Quote Originally Posted by infamousbacardi View Post
    Haha...the key to being a "pro bettor" is consistency...you need to hit in the region of 56% at least over the course of a long track record. I would spend a little money and go to a bet tracking website...they are objective places to put in your bets and record them, your record will be kept there, and if you are doing as great as you say, people will start e-mailing you and offering you ca$h for your picks...the goal of sports betting should be to make as much money as possible with the least risk necessary to take.
    I would start tracking my picks on a website that does that, you can find them easily, just google it...you will have to pay for it, but it's one of the best ways to prove that you are legitimate.

    Infamousbacardi, which would you say is the best site(s) for this sort of thing? Feel free to PM me if you wish to answer!

    Thanks

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    whats going to happen to all the future money?
    from the unscrupulous books?

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    wiseacre
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    Love the hate!!!

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    Man, you only hit 65% of your NFL wagers? LMAO.

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    I am putting the formula to the test this season, I managed to put together a substantial BR and have been commuting to Vegas weekly which is a pain but its interesting to put your money where your mouth is I am ahead but I got educated week 6 4/8 so far the only losing week but it makes you question your mentality when you drop a new car in one day. I sure enjoyed all the help and encouragement you guys gave me and I will let you know how I fare.
    Wise

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    Quote Originally Posted by wiseacre View Post
    I am putting the formula to the test this season, I managed to put together a substantial BR and have been commuting to Vegas weekly which is a pain but its interesting to put your money where your mouth is I am ahead but I got educated week 6 4/8 so far the only losing week but it makes you question your mentality when you drop a new car in one day. I sure enjoyed all the help and encouragement you guys gave me and I will let you know how I fare. Wise
    gotta love the size of this guy's balls.

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