[milwaukee mike]

I won't get into all the particulars here, since there is quite a long thread for that here:

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...-software.html

In my humble opinion both parties are at fault - cory has been caught making untrue statements and has been banned by at least 1 online casino (northbet) in the past (ez says 21 other sportsbooks/casinos).

And easystreet confiscated $46,000 of money before turning it over to a related party with a huge conflict of interest (rx) for mediation.

There have been a lot of good points made for both sides, I think most of us can agree that Cory probably was a shot taker using bot software that has done the same thing numerous times in the past. So if that is true, should Cory be paid?

[VegasInsider]

Nope. He shouldn't be paid a dime.

[obamaismyuncle]

settle

[BatemanPatrickl]

Hasn't Cory had at least 30 accounts closed at other books for fraud?

Give him the initial deposit back and that's it.

[obamaismyuncle]

Hasn't Cory had at least 30 accounts closed at other books for fraud?

Give him the initial deposit back and that's it.

another lie by you, everything you say these days is a

ok go ahead, show proof of what you say...yea I know I know you aren't gonna do that

[PoweRay]

another lie by you, everything you say these days is a

ok go ahead, show proof of what you say...yea I know I know you aren't gonna do that

Wilheim posted across the street that Cory has had 34 accounts at 21 separate books closed for fraud.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Wilheim posted across the street that Cory has had 34 accounts at 21 separate books closed for fraud.

Anything to say now Obama? Do your research before you open your big mouth.

[PoweRay]

Quote from Wilheim: Upon investigation we discovered he is connected directly to 34 different accounts all closed for fraudulent activity spread among 21 offshore books. There are possibly more but our investigation felt these were sufficient to show what type of player Cory1111 is. Many of you complain about the amount of documentation that books require now when you ask for withdrawals. Players like Cory1111 are part of why that is necessary.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Obscammerismyuncle made to look stupid AGAIN.

[obamaismyuncle]

Obscammerismyuncle made to look stupid AGAIN.

[pavyracer]

This is a huge problem for online gambling. Back in the old days of pre-internet you couldn't pull crap like that. You will meet your bookie or go to the casino with cash play and if you win you get paid cash. Now with the anonymity of the internet a crook can create multiple fraudulent accounts and try to take advantage of the system before he gets caught and have his fraudulent winnings confiscated.

[BatemanPatrickl]

Exactly. NOTHING to say. You came into a situation without any knowledge and open your BIG MOUTH again. So add liar to snitch/fraud.

[milwaukee mike]

Nope. He shouldn't be paid a dime.

vegasinsider, if that's the way you feel can you answer the poll?

[MBENZ]

Wil said.So now that cokkgobbler is the last word.

[HedgeHog]

None of the above would be my option. EZ should pay Cory's winnings to Books that he swindled. Paying the first 15k to Northbet would be a start.

[milwaukee mike]

None of the above would be my option. EZ should pay Cory's winnings to Books that he swindled. Paying the first 15k to Northbet would be a start.

That would still fall under the category: Cory should get nothing

[milwaukee mike]

interesting - so far, even though we are all PLAYERS, only 5 out of 15 voters have said cory should be paid in full.

[milwaukee mike]

yes is now winning even though cory seems to be getting more and more nasty - discussing people's wives and daughters in a most inappropriate manner.

[mighty maron]

If the site finds a reason to strip and not pay the prize, and the forums accept it....what would happen the next time a site doesnt/cant/wont pay? Come up with a semi-plausible reason/scenario and come up with solution that requires the winner to go to a foreign country.

The site took his money...if there was no ********** and the code of the casino software was not tampered with; he should get paid. Am I correct in saying that even with perfect play that the house holds the edge. If it does..short term blips should be paid....the house always gets it back if they can survive the short term.

[MBENZ]

If the site finds a reason to strip and not pay the prize, and the forums accept it....what would happen the next time a site doesnt/cant/wont pay? Come up with a semi-plausible reason/scenario and come up with solution that requires the winner to go to a foreign country.

The site took his money...if there was no ********** and the code of the casino software was not tampered with; he should get paid. Am I correct in saying that even with perfect play that the house holds the edge. If it does..short term blips should be paid....the house always gets it back if they can survive the short term.

Exactly,if one less than stellar book does it,the rest will follow suit including writing rules in the sportsbook end to cover their ass down the road.Bad part is RX has and always will cover for these BS books,wrong arb in this case.

[milwaukee mike]

If the site finds a reason to strip and not pay the prize, and the forums accept it....what would happen the next time a site doesnt/cant/wont pay? Come up with a semi-plausible reason/scenario and come up with solution that requires the winner to go to a foreign country.

The site took his money...if there was no ********** and the code of the casino software was not tampered with; he should get paid. Am I correct in saying that even with perfect play that the house holds the edge. If it does..short term blips should be paid....the house always gets it back if they can survive the short term.

the house doesn't hold the edge if they give a 100% bonus that is intended for recreational players, and that bonus gets abused by people making 10 deposits in a week and using bot software playing all night, which is explicitly disallowed.

allow me to play devil's advocate and ask this - if the site pays and then no websites give those of us that play fair any bonuses then who has benefitted other than a scammer?

[mighty maron]

the house doesn't hold the edge if they give a 100% bonus that is intended for recreational players, and that bonus gets abused by people making 10 deposits in a week and using bot software playing all night, which is explicitly disallowed.

allow me to play devil's advocate and ask this - if the site pays and then no websites give those of us that play fair any bonuses then who has benefitted other than a scammer?

The site should not give 100 percent bonuses on those games that can be beat like this. It was there choice for putting the bonus there.

Im actually very surprised that the software allowed this. Sure an occasional royal but the cynic in me thought that algos would have been written in to just not allow it.

I used to think it was unfair of casinos banning those who counted cards in blackjack also.

[milwaukee mike]

The site should not give 100 percent bonuses on those games that can be beat like this. It was there choice for putting the bonus there.

Im actually very surprised that the software allowed this. Sure an occasional royal but the cynic in me thought that algos would have been written in to just not allow it.

I used to think it was unfair of casinos banning those who counted cards in blackjack also.

wow so you think the casinos should cheat against the player? and they shouldn't give out nice promos to attract business?


what kind of player are you? you think the house should cheat against you, and you don't want nice bonuses?

it's most certainly unfair of a casino to NOT PAY someone who counted cards at blackjack, but it's not unfair to ban someone who is going to steal from you on a continual basis.

[mighty maron]

what I am saying is that its the casnios fault that they offer the big bonuses and keep the odds reasonable....they complain when someone gets lucky short term and have no right to.

I am really surprised that the software didnt do something fishy after the same player hit the 2nd royal. I believe that most casino software would have some sort of safety feature to bring the short term back in. A safety valve...a cheat in the code.

I dont think the casinos should cheat but it surprises me that the software did not stop this. I think most software is rigged to a certain point.

[milwaukee mike]

do you think most software is rigged at ALL books, or just some of the more dubious ones like ez?

i have seen more than my share of fishy things at online casinos but i have no clue whether or not the programs are legit.

[FourLengthsClear]

The book, the player and the adjudicator will all come out of this case looking like scum.

[Smoke]

I was in favor of Cory getting his 46k until I read what wilheim over at the rx said. Cory is a known stiff with fraudulent accounts. He's part of the reason the books require all those documents with CC deposits. He admitted to doing ********** at other books. I say give him his deposit back, that is all.

[KGambler]

I think we should create a new poll now that theRX and easystreetsports.com have been so thoroughly exposed.

[milwaukee mike]

I think we should create a new poll now that theRX and easystreetsports.com have been so thoroughly exposed.

i think this poll is sufficient, shows a huge majority believing cory should be paid in full.

[TexansFan]

Easystreets has proved nothing. Wait, they have proved they are a thieving, scamming, pos book. What's happened in the past with cory has nothing to do with this dispute.

They never had any intention of paying. Why in the hell should a player have to fly to CR and submit to a polygraph?

Scamming piece of crap book.

[STAY STRONG]

F*ck that scammer book Easystreet. Stay away from that shady book.

[flyingillini]

I wonder how many people from SBR would be willing to send in a deposit to Easy Street now?

[RealSlimShady]

Bad precedent being set here. Book used fine print of "no bots" to confiscate money without complete proof. I can see how bad books will start using "no professional/syndicate play" clauses to do the same with sports wagering profits.

[TexansFan]

I was in favor of Cory getting his 46k until I read what wilheim over at the rx said. Cory is a known stiff with fraudulent accounts. He's part of the reason the books require all those documents with CC deposits. He admitted to doing ********** at other books. I say give him his deposit back, that is all.

If you believe anything Wil said you need a brain scan to see if it's functioning. Wil was always going to favor his paid sponsor, always.

Whatever cory has done in the past has absolutely nothing to do with Easystreets. A book requiring a player to take a polygraph to get paid is asinine.