[losturmarbles]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays'_Rebellion

This is for the taxes after the independence.

Under the Article's of Confederation, the federal government had no power to tax. You're not talking about income taxes, you're talking about Massachusetts property taxes. At the time, the state legislature was composed mostly of merchants from Boston and other port cities. So they made the state tax laws favorable to the merchants and high on the farm owners. There was also procreditor policies that payment could be demanded in gold and silver. Basically the state legislators passed laws that undermined farmers' finiances. There was no debt relief legislation like filing "bankruptcy", and you could be taken to court and put in debtor's prison.

OK as far as the taxes I'm for them. Without taxes you have no interstates, bridges, dams, airports, schools, etc. Do you want all the roads in the US to be privately owned and being toll roads where they charge you $50 per trip? Do you want private companies to own the dams and distribute water? We can eliminate all taxes and pass everything to the private sector where they can own all the highways, dams, etc. So instead of paying income tax to the government you will be paying higher water bills, tolls, airport fees. I guess you can buy stock in these companies and make some money but you would still be burning money for all the stuff you get for free now from the government instead of paying taxes.

Of course you're for taxes, you have no use for freedom. You are exactly who Dostoyevsky's Grand Inqusitor refers to, 'In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet, and say to us, "Make us your slaves, but feed us."'

Save your strawman arguments about the private sector. So what is the government Pavy? And what is it suppose to be?

Everything you just said is already happening. State and local governments all over the country are selling government infrastructure and public roads to FOREIGN private interests. Not only that, in order for the fed to create more money it must sell bonds to China or whoever is dumb (or smart?) enough to buy them. So who exactly do you think is going to be bailling us out?

The government is suppose to be a representation of you as an individual. IT ISN'T. It represents the interests of globalist elites and the corporations they conspire with. And the state government have their own problems, first they're the federal government's bitch and have to appease it's wishes. Secondly, the back room deals with private interests are even more scandalous than the federal government, since there's little public oversight.

Government functions and roles are pretty limited and can be completely funded by that apportioned function of government. The problem is currently most governments (city, states, federal) are bloated and inefficient. Spending other people's money and finding new ways to create more unneeded government jobs.