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    Tsoprano
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    Remember when SBR gave Tony & Bobby that lifetime ban for booking? : Nominated Post

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueScholar View Post
    I'm sorry if you feel judged unfairly, TSop. You may very well be completely innocent of involvement with Sammy's current scam, but you have to see that Sammy left people with few other conclusions to draw. He mentioned being backed by guys in NYC, he's using a site that mimics the layout of one of your old PPHs and you utilized him extensively in your earlier operations. While you were banned you chose to use Sammy as your "voice" for awhile, so you're the one who really initiated all thoughts of you two being, forgive the metaphor, "thick as thieves."

    So while I feel for your plight if you are innocent this time, you brought it all on yourself. You used Bobbyfk as a lieutenant and in a solicitation phone call (yes, they really were asking for phone numbers in SBR Chat to call people to get them to use your book) to posters he openly talked about your aspirations to operate an offshore book and how he was going to move down there with you to be your customer service manager. You used Sammy to distribute payments to winning players (yes, you had losers directly wiring funds to winners using their real name) and even tried to collect on debts owed to Sammy to satisfy your own need for liquid assets. Basically you ran one of the most transparent and inneffective sportsbooks known to man, and when one of your associates attempts to duplicate the scam, you have to expect to be drawn into the conversation.

    I do agree that taking credit players from the SBR demographic is sheer lunacy, but since you were naive enough to do it once, don't blame us for thinking you'd be willing to try it again. We're just following the trail of breadcrumbs here.
    I agree with everything you have said.

    You gotta understand though Rogue, I never planned on making a living off the player base at SBR. And to be honest I knew it was going to have a short life span, but when you get caught up in the moment and you start making book during the March Madness tourny, on top of that have relationships with virtually every poster at a busy forum it really gets tempting.

    That being said, SBR was more of a trial and error. If I could go back and do it again originally I would (sorry SBR staff), it basically trained me with running a book. I did a LOT wrong no doubt, but it almost perfected my way of doing things as I am now making a full time living with it. And with players that pay like men and get paid like men and have money to work with.

    Some people are born and end up being a dentist, some sell bananas on the corner, some are lawyers, .... I couldn't find anything better than bookmaking. It truly is something I enjoy doing. What I don't enjoy doing is going to bed at night thinking in the back of my mind "what are those sbr kids saying about me now in sbr chat". That kind of baggage should not come with making book. I feel for Sammy if he is going to put himself through this kind of hell to make a buck.

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    tltaylor89
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    HAHA De Ja Vu has set in

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