Originally posted on 12/16/2013:

Ghislaine,

1. unless it says "team total" or "tt", u can assume any total is a game-total (including the scoring for both teams)

2. Here's my shopping report for about 2 hours after Pinny's post (he posted shortly before 22:00 EST...i shopped shortly after midnight)

#1.Soccer.Italy.Milan/Roma,u2.5,-115
international best: -115 (betfair...and, yes, this is the price AFTER the 5% commission is accounted for)
US-best: -120 available at both 5d and bol (and maybe elsewhere as well...i was shopping for myself, and took the betfair)

a price move of 5 points in 2 hours if you're on the "sharp" side of a play is to be expeceted, even desirable to some (as it provides some immediate "confirmation" you made a smart buy that more money has since followed you on)

#2.Basketball.NBA.MIA-13,-110 assumed (correctly, when odds not quoted for any Basketball/Football handicap bet)
international best: +100 (Pinnacle)
US-best: the -13 spread was widely available shortly after midnight at basic -110 odds

Note: for anyone line-shopping...i've found two FREE sites indispensible
http://www.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/ (SBR's free odds-comparison site...edit "book order" under "settings" to get it the way u like)
http://www.betexplorer.com/ (make sure to register, and edit "my bookmakers" under "settings" to show just the books u want or you'll get swamped by the output)
notes: betexplorer is the more powerful (more bet types/more books)/sbr the easier to use
betexplorer has tons of books but SBR has some that they miss=matchbook, sportsinteraction, heritage, Intertops, DSI, JustBet, etc.
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"forever" on SBR means a few days, i suppose (when i saw Ghislaine struggling a bit in the line-shopping department, my basic "good samaritan" wiring kicked in...and i had to decide between "keeping my word" and "helping out"...i chose the latter )...I hope no-one makes it their mission to make me admit that i'm a despicable liar...because i'll admit to it readily, but follow it up with a firm "and so is every human being that's ever lived"...the entire process of "growing up" is in learning to be be less obvious in our dissembling, which usually boils down to making our actions "seem" more altruistic/noble than they really are (i always think of Bill Clinton's expression about "being economical with the truth" in this regard)...

i have learned my lesson, however...and I'll avoid the thread politics as much as possible (but god, i can't understand how people can be such rude ungrateful POS's and/or such relentless/insatiable stalkers...)...because of this, any efforts toward clear specification of lines and clear accounting or results have to be for the primarily for the users of the thread and NOT to appease others (you honestly think KS#1 won't pop in here whenever he's got nothing better to do and make the same claims that the OP's plays are impossible-to-follow fictional creations)

thanks to "the tross" for the PM...no worries, mate...wrasslers--even idealistic ones like me--are tough as nails