Originally posted on 02/25/2013:

Quote Originally Posted by leonard p View Post
What are some good handicappers out there that a newbie would want to pursue ?

I tried Accuscore and havent had any success was thinking about trying doc sports and number fire.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated to this newbie thanks!
Topos makes some good points.

Do not follow cappers. Save the money and add to your bankroll. It is clear you have much to learn and that is ok since you are new. Stay out of the service plays read which is filled with shills, especially for a service called Doc's--one you mentioned.

Doc's is deceptive at best, and if you are aware of their actual tracked records at T S M I'd say they do more than just deceive. The service plays forum is filled with touts and shills. Not just for Doc's, mind you, but the shills pushing other services are so outlandish they are not taken seriously. Doc's has plenty of what we call "good guy" shills a c r o s s the s t r e e t .. These guys will occasionally post tepid or even "bad" comments but talk out of both sides of their mouth...for example last week, "capper X (from Doc's) sucks!" ... But later in the same post the guys says "I am signing up for a full NbA with capper Y (also from Docs) next year!" Then a day later, the same poster makes this comment about the same capper "he is doing great...I think he is up (a ton) in NcAA this year!"

I would NEVER use docs. If anyone shills for anyone, be very skeptical. Heck, if I tell you to follow someone, don't take my word for it. Research--and that doesn't mean going to the handicapper's website or a sham tracking service. If anyone is advertising an inordinate amount of plays, it is marketing. A site like Doc's releases lots of big plays to you the client, then does not submit them for independent tracking as big. In other words, they want the increased sales a "game of the..." Brings, but they really don't rate it that high.

The public seems to think a consistent 65-70% winning percentage is possible. With all the variables involved in sports and going by the law of averages, a 70% winning percentage is asinine. The problem is that most bettors don’t realize this. They want to join the services that claim to win 70% of the time. In reality, those are the services that will clean said bettors out for good. The bettors rationalize their decision as follows: “Why would I join a service that only wins 55-58% of the time when I could join a service that wins 70% of the time?”

...and watch out for the shill that starts saying, "XYz service guarantees their picks...if you lose, you get picks free til you win". Well, you still have lost your bet that day if the next day is free! Some will say, "lose and the whole season is free!" Well, the whole season of basics is free, but the "big plays" that get advertised are not.


If these handicappers are picking 65-70% winners, why do they need your measly $25 for the pick? If they pick 70% winners, why is the line not moving when they release their picks? Fact is, if it is so easy to pick 65% winners, how are there any sportsbooks left in the world? Wouldn’t they all be bankrupt? If there was a golden goose method to picking at a winning percentage that high, wouldn’t other sports bettors have figured it out by now? Wouldn’t the sportsbooks have this information at their disposal?


Ask yourself this question before you signup with a handicapper: Is this too good to be true? If the answer is yes, 99.9% of the time, it is a scam.


There are several advanced techniques that are beyond you right now that you will eventually be able to utilize--real-time odds/public money tracking--that will guide you more than any capper...but you need to take time and build a foundation. There are a few things you can do to get started, but I would really take it slow. This is a grind if you want to be consistently profitable, and step out plays are few-and-far-between , no matter what cappers tell you...ere were a ton of "big plays" and "p l a y of the y e a r" garbage this past weekend from multiple cappers and as a whole, few finished in the black.

A few tips:

Start slow.

Spend time learning in forums like NCAAB and NBA where you will find lots of individual game dissection. There are clueless people, but there are also interesting takes.

Never bet more than a small percentage of your bankroll on any game, or have a significant portion locked up on any given day. Keep to it no matter how strong a game is touted. Do not chase.

In almost all cases, buying points is idiotic.

If you decide to consider listening to a service, I would only use it as a guide. I do keep an eye on several. I do not follow them, but I review their analysis and may raise /lower a game I already had planned based on their commentary.

Betting fewer games better than betting many. There were not 40 bet table games this Saturday no matter what some service says!


There is a system called "Martingale" ... Long term it is not an answer--but if you use it conservatively you can do some analysis and play for awhile to get your feet wet. One such service is "crusher" they give a single daily play. You bet 1 unit. Win next day bet 1 unit. Lose, next day bet 2.1 u (to recapture 1.1 lost previous day and to win 1)...this goes on until you reach day 4. If you lose that, you take your losses and start over...

now I am not pushing crusher, because they market like the rest. One of their claims for FB is never having lost 4 in a row...but they have been tracked and they did more than a few times this year. Still, you can cap your own game, use theirs, or use a game you like after hearing talk in the hoops forums. If you still use the "negative regression" system, but cut your unit bet from where you probsbly could have started, you will get a few extra plays before taking the losses and starting over. You'll win less too, but if you really want to learn and aren't "get rich quick", you will get to play, start to really understand factors, be ready to graduate to some areas that might really help, and still be able to play.

Good luck to you!