1. 03-26-06 03:01 AM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by maritime
    Anybody think we'll ever see a "new" position created in the NFL for these talented athletic college QB's who just aren't good enough when it comes down to it, to be consistent drop-back pocket passers that can win a big game. I have always thought it might be interesting for a team to take a Kordel Stewart, Randle-El, Seneca Wallace, or yes, even Mike Vick and play them instead as sort of what I would call a "pass-back." The team could have their traditional pocket passer, but in addition, coming out of the backfield would be this total question mark who could run, pass, or receive.
    I think Young would make a great WR in the NFL. He is
    deceptively elusive,quick,and can break tackles with his
    size.
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  2. 03-26-06 03:12 AM #37
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    in the long run, Leinart will be better...
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  3. 03-26-06 08:28 AM #38
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    They wanted him to play safety out of high school. Texas was one of the few schools that said they would give him a shot at QB. If Vick and McNair are truly busts then yes under those standards I think Young is a bust too.
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  4. 03-26-06 02:07 PM #39
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    I didn't read the whole thread. But in regards to those who say Vince is coming out early, thats not entirely true because he had a reshirt year so he has been on campus for 4 years/ So he only has 8 years max shelf life left anyway. Read the "Vince Young" thread and you'll understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyBear View Post
    Vince Young is a joke with all do respect SBR John...he'll be lucky to be half as good as Michael Vick and we all know how overrated Vick is.

    it doesn't take half a brain to realize that Leinart will be the better pro.
    BuddyBear you better get your sorry azz back in here. Tell me again how sorry my man Vince will be.
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  6. 08-13-07 11:07 PM #41
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    Young had a good first year, but I could easily see him come back down to earth in his second season. He'll probably gets injured (Madden curse). Leinart will go on to improve steadily. Say it's February 2013 and you were told that one of these two QB's just won his first Superbowl. Who would you think that was, Leinart or Young?
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  7. 08-13-07 11:09 PM #42
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    Let's see how Young and the Titans do this season..

    Young's stat weren't very good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    i'm thinking Leinart will be a much better pro QB than Vince Young will be.

    Leinart just have much more to offer an NFL team from a skills standpoint. not to mention he has had 4 years of running a pro style offense under a former NFL head coach.

    Danny, I agree but your forgot one thing!
    Leinhart is also more intelligent, he will make less mistakes! Young got 6 on his intelligence test(wonderlic), Young is stoopid just like Vick!

    Danny, when was the last time a dumb running QB won the Super Bowl?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
    Danny, I agree but your forgot one thing!
    Leinhart is also more intelligent, he will make less mistakes! Young got 6 on his intelligence test(wonderlic), Young is stoopid just like Vick!

    Danny, when was the last time a dumb running QB won the Super Bowl?
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    Game intelligence and IQ are too different things. Young sees the field, otherwise he could never make those runs.
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    Who said Young is a dumb, running QB? I think he's a nimble and elusive QB who can deliver from spots on the field that most can't (because they are slow and stationary pocket QBs).

    I'm sure anybody could attach a label to Leinart, like "Fame crazy, whining crybaby" (The last comment made based solely on the way he handled his National Championship loss to Young with such 'class')

    When's the last time a fame crazy, whining crybaby QB won the Superbowl?

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  12. 08-13-07 11:39 PM #47
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    51.6 Comp%
    146 yds passing per game

    Sacked 25 times and didn't start til when week 6?

    66.7 QB Rating..


    What a star!!!!
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    I think some folks just still dont get it. Young is a player. He could have scored a -237 on a 1st grade aptitude test doesn’t matter, he wins football games. He always has.

    Of course the Titans are terrible and had Young stayed in school he would be a buck rookie. He needs a little more time and at least the semblance of an NFL cast at the skilled positions to get a QB rating and the other stats that come with being on a good team. All in due course...
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  14. 08-13-07 11:53 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I think some folks just still dont get it.
    Only the video game warped minds of the idiotic societal mass don't get it. You nailed it. What's the bottom line in team sports?

    WINS. WINS. WINS.

    He's a proven winner and any rookie that was able to get that joke of an NFL roster (in regards to raw talent) the wins they got last year deserves the credit he has gotten. Leinart's compliments on offense are so much better than anything on the Titans' roster, it's almost laughable. He gets to throw to Fitzgerald and Boldin and hand of to James.
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    Good post owned. I've seen them both play in person. Love Leinart, reminds me of Aikman. Young reminds me of testaverde who probably still doesnt know what 2 + 2 is but was a darn good NFL QB. I think both will be improved and both will be in future pro bowls.
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  16. 08-14-07 12:05 AM #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by OWNED View Post
    Only the video game warped minds of the idiotic societal mass don't get it. You nailed it. What's the bottom line in team sports?
    O.K Mr.Always Self Righteous.. We'll see how the guy does this season..

    Can't depend on last minute drives to win games all season again can he?
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    Jay Cutler will be better than both.
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    Matt Schaub is better than both..
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    Stoopid running QBs like Vick, McNabb, Young, .... never get it done in the playoffs, in the big games! How can they? They make too many mistakes!

    When was the last time one of these running QBs won the Super Bowl?
    Its soooooooooo sad!

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  20. 08-14-07 05:40 AM #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by imgv94 View Post
    Matt Schaub is better than both..
    Yes, Matt has been putting up big numbers in the NFL. I can't believe he hasn't been to a Pro Bowl yet. I was looking at his practice stats and they are phenomenal.
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  21. 08-14-07 06:09 AM #56
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    Too early to tell, I think in the log term Leinhart will do better.
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  22. 08-14-07 11:55 AM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by OWNED View Post
    Only the video game warped minds of the idiotic societal mass don't get it.
    Speaking of video games... Lets just see how Young does this year with that Madden curse on his back. Hell, the curse already started last week when they suspended him for not staying with the team in the motel.
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  23. 08-14-07 01:56 PM #58
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    Leinart's line has more holes than a block of swiss cheese, he'll be on his back this year more than a Swedish porn star. Young can manuever and escape, which makes him doubly dangerous. Matt is A-ok, but Vince is waaaaay more dynamic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion View Post
    Stoopid running QBs like Vick, McNabb, Young, .... never get it done in the playoffs, in the big games! How can they? They make too many mistakes!

    When was the last time one of these running QBs won the Super Bowl?
    Its soooooooooo sad!

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    The "Running QB Hyrbid" is somewhat new so give it time, a running QB will win the SB. If numbnuts McNabb doesnt decide to vomit all over the field in the SB The Iggles wouldve had a helluva a chance to win that game....
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  25. 09-24-07 10:22 PM #60
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    The Madden Curse.

    Rules don't apply to Vince, he's a born winner. Meanwhile, Leinart is being benched in favor of the ageless Kurt Warner because of ineffectiveness.
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    I never knew why smart guys would think Vince Young would be a bust. Pocket passers are more traditional I guess. Young gives an average team a chance to make the playoffs.
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    Very impressed by how Young played tonight and how fast he's become dominant in the NFL. The guy is a champion.
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  28. 09-25-07 02:31 AM #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Horse View Post
    Very impressed by how Young played tonight and how fast he's become dominant in the NFL. The guy is a champion.
    yeah really dude
    i cant believe what i just read before you
    I guess we're the only two people who had abc for the rose bowl and we were the only ones who watched the nfl last season. Young is a ****ing winner, thats it. Anything more or less and I call u a retard. He wins, more importantly covers. I would hate to bet against him. Every single play u have to be nervous. He's a freak. Jeff Fisher could have coached anywhere almost and named his price. he stayed cuz of young. Man u peeps are retarded. I dont even care for young. I go by what I see. Matt Leinhart is sucking ass right now. retards
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  29. 09-25-07 06:12 AM #64
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    Young is clearly better
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