1. 12-08-17 10:18 PM #1
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    Green Bay Packers ML is your lock of the week

    I think there is a ton of value in Packers ML around-165. Must win game for the Packers to get into the playoffs. Must lose game for the Browns to continue towards the #1 overall pick. Browns are in shambles from top to bottom. Pack scores enough pts and D forces enough turnovers to pull this one out. Hundly has played pretty well the 3 out of the past 4 weeks. McCarthy keeps the game plan simple running the ball and keeping the 3rd downs in manageable situations. Capers will dial up some pressure and get to Kizer. GL
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  2. 12-08-17 10:37 PM #2
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    Browns win - yes, Pack must win, but is Hundley really proven enough to trust to get that win. And the Browns aren't tanking and as bad as they are, they compete every game. They not only win, the Browns win this game easily. Book it.
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  3. 12-08-17 11:15 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Shirts View Post
    Browns win - yes, Pack must win, but is Hundley really proven enough to trust to get that win. And the Browns aren't tanking and as bad as they are, they compete every game. They not only win, the Browns win this game easily. Book it.
    Good points. I would argue that I trust Hundley more then I trust Kizer. If Hundley can go in to Pitt and Chicago and play well I think he is as capable to go into Cleveland and play well. The thing that is note worthy about Coach Mcarthy is he hardly ever losses to less talented teams. Browns are due for a noncompetitive game and are not playing well enough to win lately imo...i guess that's why they play the games!
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  4. 12-08-17 11:53 PM #4
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    Agree

    there's a reason no one drink brown koolaid !!!!!!
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  5. 12-09-17 02:21 AM #5
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    Gordon about to have a monster game
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  7. 12-09-17 03:15 AM #7
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    When someone makes a "Lock" thread usually the other team wins. If so, the Browns got their first win lol.
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  8. 12-09-17 04:50 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yazworm91 View Post
    Gordon about to have a monster game
    lol Gordon is still on crack

    Keizer won't get him the ball anyhow

    look at Keizer qb rating and his advance stats even worse

    hundly is no Rodgers either but won't have to do much here
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  9. 12-09-17 08:25 AM #9
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    Everyone and their dog love the brownies. I'm with you peep, GB is a gift from the foosball gods, not as big of a gift as Dallass tho, they are a HUGE gift!! Elis back and suddenly they are fkin great!?!?! C' mon man

    GL
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    Hundley playing well? He had 8 air yards last week. 8!!
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  11. 12-09-17 05:20 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by The J-Dizzle View Post
    Hundley playing well? He had 8 air yards last week. 8!!
    Are you making up stats? 8 air yards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Shirts View Post
    Browns win - yes, Pack must win, but is Hundley really proven enough to trust to get that win. And the Browns aren't tanking and as bad as they are, they compete every game. They not only win, the Browns win this game easily. Book it.
    The only thing the browns do easily is find a way to lose! Can they win, possibly but not likely. Hundley is just as good as Kizer. Book that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Peepers View Post
    Are you making up stats? 8 air yards?
    No why would I? Hundley had 84 yards last week and 76 yards I believe was yards made after the catch. Therefore he had only 8 air yards. Get it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broncos View Post
    The only thing the browns do easily is find a way to lose! Can they win, possibly but not likely. Hundley is just as good as Kizer. Book that.
    Kizer is not as good as Hundley and Hundley has a much better supporting cast. Stronger O-line and running game. Don Capers will be bringing different blitz packages. Kizer will have his chances to burn the Pack but don't see it coming together
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    Quote Originally Posted by The J-Dizzle View Post
    No why would I? Hundley had 84 yards last week and 76 yards I believe was yards made after the catch. Therefore he had only 8 air yards. Get it?
    Thank you for clarifying. A yard is a yard in my book. Credit to the WR core. Get Jordy and Devante Adams the ball and let them work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Peepers View Post
    Kizer is not as good as Hundley and Hundley has a much better supporting cast. Stronger O-line and running game. Don Capers will be bringing different blitz packages. Kizer will have his chances to burn the Pack but don't see it coming together
    kizer is historically bad

    not just his qb rating but if u look deeper into adv stats hes even worse

    browns basicallt tanking by staerting him

    pack should be -4 or 5 here
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    kizer is historically bad

    not just his qb rating but if u look deeper into adv stats hes even worse

    browns basicallt tanking by staerting him

    pack should be -4 or 5 here
    I agree. Only reason i feel there is a ton of action on the Browns is because line is at -2.5.....if it was at -5 people would be on the Packers
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  19. 12-10-17 11:48 AM #19
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    my theory on the low line is people think josh grodon will somehow save browns

    i understand he was supposed to be megatron 2.0 but that was some time ago
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    Locks always lose but I think you’re right.

    How many morons are going to play Cleveland because the line is low?

    Books probably know that’s the only way they can get people to play Cleveland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Peepers View Post
    I think there is a ton of value in Packers ML around-165. Must win game for the Packers to get into the playoffs. Must lose game for the Browns to continue towards the #1 overall pick. Browns are in shambles from top to bottom. Pack scores enough pts and D forces enough turnovers to pull this one out. Hundly has played pretty well the 3 out of the past 4 weeks. McCarthy keeps the game plan simple running the ball and keeping the 3rd downs in manageable situations. Capers will dial up some pressure and get to Kizer. GL
    again misinformation. The Browns do not have to lose this game to assure the first overall pick. A quick glance at the standings would indicate the next 2 teams closest to the Browns have 2 wins.
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  22. 12-10-17 03:20 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDofBA View Post
    Locks always lose but I think you’re right.

    How many morons are going to play Cleveland because the line is low?

    Books probably know that’s the only way they can get people to play Cleveland.
    People will say this was lucky but it wasn’t.

    That’s what the Browns do. Find ways to not cover. If you bet them, you’re throwing darts. They suck.
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  23. 12-10-17 05:33 PM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTOWNsCAPPIN View Post
    again misinformation. The Browns do not have to lose this game to assure the first overall pick. A quick glance at the standings would indicate the next 2 teams closest to the Browns have 2 wins.
    I was aware that a Browns win wouldn't cost the organization the #1 pick. As stated "Must lose game for the Browns to continue towards the #1 overall pick". Key word was towards. A win this week/ another win would complicate things. I see where it would appear as misinformation if misunderstood
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    It wasnt pretty but a win is a win. Congrats Packer Backers!
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