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    IcE's 2009 NFL Thread

    Hello Everyone

    My picks for the upcoming season will be a bit different then normal picks. I will be playing a system that goes against the bookies.

    My goal for this season is 50+ units.

    Please keep negative comments to yourselfs. No saying im retarted for doing this or this will never work.

    Tail or fade at your own risk.

    I will not reveal this system until the end of the season if successful. If you know this system please keep it to yourself. Thanks.

    Lets have a great season and everyone to make some

    BOL everyone.

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    good luck ice

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezkoness69 View Post
    good luck ice
    Thank you rezkoness

    BOL to you as well

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    Week 1 system plays up 2morrow

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    So your just going to tease us with this system, and not share the love? ouch!

    Still best of luck this season!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGboothA View Post
    So your just going to tease us with this system, and not share the love? ouch!

    Still best of luck this season!
    pretty much. If i lose money no one will every have to be harmed from this system again lol. But if i make my mark. Then secrets out.

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    Just for a heads up, I WILL NOT make a profit the first 2 weeks while using this system.

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    WEEK 1: SYSTEM PLAYS

    (All wager for this week only is to win 1 unit for favs or risk 1 unit for dogs)

    Tennessee Titans +7 -135
    Pittsburgh Steelers -7 +115
    Miami Dolphins +4 -110
    Baltimore Ravens -14 +110
    Philadelphia Eagles -1 -120
    Carolina Panthers +1 +100
    Cincinnati Bengals -3½ -110
    Houston Texans -4½ -110
    Jacksonville Jaguars +8 -130
    Indianapolis Colts -8 +110
    New Orleans Saints -14 +110
    Dallas Cowboys -6 -110
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers +6 -110
    San Francisco 49ers +7 -130
    Arizona Cardinals -7 +110
    Washington Redskins +7 -125
    New York Giants -7 +105
    Chicago Bears +3½ -110
    Green Bay Packers -3½ -110
    Buffalo Bills +12 -125
    New England Patriots -12 +105
    San Diego Chargers -10 +110
    Atlanta Falcons -4 -110
    Minnesota Vikings -3½ -110
    New York Jets +4½ -110

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    Well good luck, you have my interest to say the least....

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    cha cha cha

    the suspense of the system is heating up.

    Will it work? Will it not?

    ill just say one thing..........

    when week 5 comes around every1 will be to me.

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    WEEK 1: RESULTS

    12-12-1 +0.46 units


    Total: 12-12-1 50% +0.46 units

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    Takes some balls to make that many plays a week, congrats on the winning start and i look forward to it continuing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smogs View Post
    Takes some balls to make that many plays a week, congrats on the winning start and i look forward to it continuing
    i actually was planning on losing units this week but got lucky. well week 2 im 90% sure i will be neg.

    week 2 system plays up late tonite or tomorrow at the latest.

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    so if im gonna do this system should i wait till week 3 then

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    Quote Originally Posted by mllndollaman View Post
    so if im gonna do this system should i wait till week 3 then
    actually no i would advise not jumping on considering the first couple weeks setup this system.

    Also i advise to have at least a bank roll of 200 units just in case of a long losing streak.

    Also keep in mine im still testing this system. Even though I still using real money i'm just trying to see if i can get 45-50 untis this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcE View Post


    Also i advise to have at least a bank roll of 200 units just in case of a long losing streak.
    I hope i'm not being daft here but isn't a bankroll meant to be 100 units, i.e. each unit is 1% of your bankroll?

    If it was 200 or any other number, wouldn't it be impossible to track how much a unit was relative to your opening bankroll figure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smogs View Post
    I hope i'm not being daft here but isn't a bankroll meant to be 100 units, i.e. each unit is 1% of your bankroll?

    If it was 200 or any other number, wouldn't it be impossible to track how much a unit was relative to your opening bankroll figure?
    not really if your unit is $10 then your bank roll sound be $2000. So by the end of the season if you have $2500 you would be up 50 units.

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    Been really busy latley with school work plays will be posted before sunday.

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    WEEK 2: SYSTEM PLAYS

    Carolina Panthers +7 -125 (2.50 to win 2)
    Washington Redskins -10½ +110 (1 to win 1.10)
    Miami Dolphins +3 +100 (2.10 to win 2.10)
    Indianapolis Colts -3 -120 (2.40 to win 2)
    Dallas Cowboys -2½ -115 (1.15 to win 1)
    New York Giants +2½ -105 (2.10 to win 2)
    Chicago Bears +2½ +100 (2.10 to win 2.10)
    Pittsburgh Steelers -2½ -120 (2.58 to win 2.15)
    San Diego Chargers -3 -115 (2.30 to win 2)
    Baltimore Ravens +3 -105 (1.05 to win 1)
    Buffalo Bills -5 -110 (1.10 to win 1)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers +5 -110 (2.31 to win 2.10)
    San Francisco 49ers pk -130 (1.30 to win 1)
    Jacksonville Jaguars -3 -120 (1.20 to win 1)
    Arizona Cardinals +3 +100 (2 to win 2)
    Atlanta Falcons -7 +105 (1 to win 1.05)
    Philadelphia Eagles pk -110 (1.10 to win 1)
    New Orleans Saints pk -110 (1.10 to win 1)
    Minnesota Vikings -10½ +110 (1 to win 1.10)
    Green Bay Packers -10 +110 (1 to win 1.10)
    Cincinnati Bengals +10 -130 (2.73 to win 2.10)
    New York Jets +3 +110 (1 to win 1.10)
    New England Patriots -3 -130 (2.60 to win 2)
    Tennessee Titans -7½ +120 (1 to win 1.20)
    Houston Texans +7½ -140 (2.94 to win 2.20)

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    its strange that you often take both sides of a single..must be an interesting system you got employed

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    Quote Originally Posted by rezkoness69 View Post
    its strange that you often take both sides of a single..must be an interesting system you got employed
    yes sir

    i backed tested this system for about 5 years and hasn't failed yet.

    Would have done more but to lazy

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    looks good ICE GOOD LUCK

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    Quote Originally Posted by zigomanisinsider View Post
    looks good ICE GOOD LUCK

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    Regardless of your system you are literally throwing money away when you back both sides in a game with a losing result guaranteed on that game regardless of the result. Very very bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limey View Post
    Regardless of your system you are literally throwing money away when you back both sides in a game with a losing result guaranteed on that game regardless of the result. Very very bizarre.

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    Please do not take this as a negative comment, but it appears you are scrapping really hard for a 25% gain on your money. At such a low gain you would do well to looking into selling covered calls in the stock market. They make approx 3% a month (you have to search for them, some are lower then 1 %), and if the stock goes down you can wait for it to go back up before you sell. Your chance of success is over 66% and you still own something if you do lose. Consistent sales of these call options month after month can net you up to 50% a year.

    I will not turn my nose up at 25%, especially if it is consistent, but I am up 30% after week one, and that includes losing a couple of bets. (Steelers opener, and New England) It's not to say I won't get pummelled this week, but the attraction is the high amount of leverage that wagering offers. If you water it down too much than it no longer makes sense because there are safer ways to invest your money. In stocks you have ownership in a company, in real estate you have the equity of your property. In sports your wager doesn't go down in value, it disappears. If I am going to take that kind of risk I want some bang for my buck.

    That being said, if a mutual fund manager consistently pulls 25% he's a hero. I am curious to see your results. I hope your system works better than what you hope for. Best of luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arpeggiomeister View Post
    Please do not take this as a negative comment, but it appears you are scrapping really hard for a 25% gain on your money. At such a low gain you would do well to looking into selling covered calls in the stock market. They make approx 3% a month (you have to search for them, some are lower then 1 %), and if the stock goes down you can wait for it to go back up before you sell. Your chance of success is over 66% and you still own something if you do lose. Consistent sales of these call options month after month can net you up to 50% a year.

    I will not turn my nose up at 25%, especially if it is consistent, but I am up 30% after week one, and that includes losing a couple of bets. (Steelers opener, and New England) It's not to say I won't get pummelled this week, but the attraction is the high amount of leverage that wagering offers. If you water it down too much than it no longer makes sense because there are safer ways to invest your money. In stocks you have ownership in a company, in real estate you have the equity of your property. In sports your wager doesn't go down in value, it disappears. If I am going to take that kind of risk I want some bang for my buck.

    That being said, if a mutual fund manager consistently pulls 25% he's a hero. I am curious to see your results. I hope your system works better than what you hope for. Best of luck.
    very nice write up arpeggiomeister. I am not scrapping at all. As the season continues there will be less and less bets. The stock market seems really boring to me that is why i bet sports, excitment.

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    WEEK 2: RESULTS

    13-12-0 -1.19 units


    Total: 25-24-1 51% -0.73 units


    Expected

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    WEEK 3: SYSTEM PLAYS

    Pittsburgh Steelers -3½ -110 (5.37 to win 4.88)
    New England Patriots -4½ -110 (5.12 to win 4.65)
    Philadelphia Eagles -9 +115 (2 to win 2.30)
    Arizona Cardinals -1½ -130 (1.30 to win 1)
    Tennessee Titans +1 +105 (1.90 to win 2)
    New York Giants -7½ +120 (1 to win 1.20)
    Carolina Panthers +9 -125 (5.63 to win 4.50)
    San Diego Chargers -5½ -110 (4.84 to win 4.40)
    Indianapolis Colts +1½ +110 (1.82 to win 2)
    Baltimore Ravens -14 +100 (1 to win 1)
    Dallas Cowboys -9 +105 (2.05 to win 2.15)
    Green Bay Packers -7 +105 (1.90 to win 2)
    Washington Redskins -7 +105 (1.90 to win 2)
    Miami Dolphins +5½ -110 (4.62 to win 4.20)
    Chicago Bears -1 -130 (1.30 to win 1)
    Tampa Bay Buccaneers +7½ -140 (6.17 to win 4.41)
    Jacksonville Jaguars +3½ -115 (2.53 to win 2.20)
    Cincinnati Bengals +3½ -115 (1.15 to win 1)
    Houston Texans -3½ -105 (1.05 to win 1)

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    that's deep

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    IcE

    I like it even though I have no idea wtf I am looking@ I hope all works out and I will be following might start in a few but depends on what it looks like.
    good to know that you are trying it out in here first before revealing it but, I think some will figure it out.
    BOL of luck IcE

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    Quote Originally Posted by threeg5 View Post
    IcE

    I like it even though I have no idea wtf I am looking@ I hope all works out and I will be following might start in a few but depends on what it looks like.
    good to know that you are trying it out in here first before revealing it but, I think some will figure it out.
    BOL of luck IcE
    someone will eventually figure it out. Still hope for a successful season. Fail or Succeed i still will reveal what i was doing.


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    I like a couple of those plays very much. Good luck to you this year.

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    dam thats alot of teams......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mybologne View Post
    dam thats alot of teams......................
    it will get narrowed down each week so there will be less plays each week.

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