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    TMoney's 2012/2013 NFL thread

    I play just for fun, and decided that I would post all of my plays here just for entertainment. I'll track my performance here with W/L % and +/- Units.

    My units are based on roughly 1% of BR. Plays will range from fractional to 20 units.

    This is JUST for Entertainment. I don't care whether you fade or tail, but whatever you do is YOUR CHOICE so don't come on here flaming me over losers.

    One other note: Throughout the season, I occasionally get offered props by a local. These lines will be much better than can be found elsewhere. I realize that others won't be able to play them, but I can, so I will post them.

    GL all!
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-05-12 at 12:49 PM.

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    Futures Bets:

    To Win Super Bowl XLVII
    BUF +5000
    Risk 0.3 to win 15

    To Win Super Bowl XLVII
    NOR +1800
    Risk 0.3 to win 5.4

    To Win Super Bowl XLVII
    DET +2000
    Risk 0.3 to win 6

    To Win Super Bowl XLVII
    IND +15000
    Risk 0.1 to win 15

    REG Season WINS
    BUF o7.5-110
    Risk 22 to win 20

    The BUF reg season wins is a prop from a local. I know that this line is not available elsewhere at this price.
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-05-12 at 12:50 PM.

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    Week 1 Plays

    NYG -3 (-130)
    Risk 2 to win 1.538


    NYG -7.5 (+175)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.875

    Parlay
    NYG -3.5
    NYG/DAL u45
    Risk 0.2 to win 0.529

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    Halftime Prop Bet

    2nd Half Total Points
    NYG o13+100
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMoney33 View Post
    Week 1 Plays
    NYG -3 (-130)
    Risk 2 to win 1.538


    NYG -7.5 (+175)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.875


    Parlay
    NYG -3.5
    NYG/DAL u45
    Risk 0.2 to win 0.529

    2nd Half Total Points
    NYG o13+100
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.5


    ​Not an awesome first night.

    2012/2013 Record
    ATS 0-2 (-2.5)
    Parlay 0-1 (-0.2)
    Prop 1-0 (+0.5)
    TOTAL 1-3 (-2.2)

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    Fantasy H2H Props

    These are from DSI:

    J Cutler vs A Luck
    J Cutler -2 (-125)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.4

    A Rodgers vs A Smith
    A Smith +13 (-115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.435
    J Freeman vs C Newton
    J Freeman +10 (-115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.435

    Cutler is solid and now has Marshall back, and there is a ton of pressure on Luck but he doesn't have alot of support.

    Smith is going to have to throw the ball alot to stay in the game, and I think 13pts is pretty generous.

    I'm looking for Freeman to bounce back off his sophomore slump, and for Newton to enter his.

    I really like all three of these, but the season is just beginning, so I'm keeping my plays small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMoney33 View Post
    Futures Bets:
    REG Season WINS
    BUF o7.5-110
    Risk 22 to win 20

    The BUF reg season wins is a prop from a local. I know that this line is not available elsewhere at this price.
    This ^ is wrong. I was going off memory, and listed the wrong price an amount. It should be
    REG Season WINS
    BUF o7.5-120
    Risk 18 to win 15

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    Sunday 9/9/12

    I'm going to start out small because I don't really have a good enough feel for the teams yet.

    ATS:
    These were the only two spreads I liked this week.

    DET -8.5 (-110)
    Risk 2.2 to win 2

    I expect this to be the blowout of the weekend.

    SEA -3(+105)
    Risk 1 to win 1.05
    I've banking on QB Wilson maintaining his strong performance from the pre-season.

    ML:
    I don't have high expectations of any of these teams winning, but I see lots of value in these plays.

    IND+410
    Risk 1 to win 4.1
    I have high expecations for the Cutler/Marshall combo, but again there's value here.
    WAS+330
    Risk 1 to win 3.3
    I don't know what to expect from wither of these teams this year.
    CLE+370
    Risk 1 to win 3.7
    Will probably get blown out.
    MIA+600
    Risk 2 to win 12
    Really? MIA is priced at less than a 15% chance of winning.

    I'll also be on the PIT ML, but haven't booked a price on it yet.

    Teasers:
    I always play a few small teasers.

    BUF +8.5
    TB + 8.5
    PIT +7.5
    Risk 0.5 to Win 0.9
    Wong Teaser

    PIT +8
    PIT/DEN u52
    Risk 1 to win 0.909
    I think PIT wins s/u. 2 Strong Defenses.

    Parlay:
    I also like the weekly parlay.

    NO-7
    DET-7
    BAL-6
    Risk 0.5 to win 2.979


    Fade or Tail - GL

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    GB/SF Live Spread (DSI)
    SF-12(+115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.575

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    Today's Stats

    Props: 3-0 (+1.27)
    J Cutler vs A Luck
    J Cutler -2 (-125)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.4


    A Rodgers vs A Smith
    A Smith +13 (-115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.435


    J Freeman vs C Newton
    J Freeman +10 (-115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.435


    ATS: 0-3 (-3.7u)
    DET -8.5 (-110)
    Risk 2.2 to win 2


    SEA -3(+105)
    Risk 1 to win 1.05


    GB/SF Live Spread (DSI)
    SF-12(+115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.575


    ML: 1-3 (-0.7u)
    IND+410
    Risk 1 to win 4.1


    WAS+330
    Risk 1 to win 3.3


    CLE+370
    Risk 1 to win 3.7


    MIA+600
    Risk 2 to win 12


    Teasers: 0-1 (-0.5u)
    BUF +8.5
    TB + 8.5
    PIT +7.5
    Risk 0.5 to Win 0.9


    Parlay: 0-1 (-0.5u)
    NO-7
    DET-7
    BAL-6
    Risk 0.5 to win 2.979


    Open Bet:PIT +8
    PIT/DEN u52
    Risk 1 to win 0.909

    Added Bet:
    PIT+120
    Risk 1.5 to win 1.8

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    2012/2013 Record
    ATS 0-5 (-6.2)
    ML 1-3 (-0.7)
    Parlay 0-2 (-0.7)
    Teaser 0-1 (-0.5)
    Prop 4-0 (+1.77)
    TOTAL 5-11 (-6.33)
    Yeah, I'm sucking so far.
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-09-12 at 07:10 PM. Reason: formatting

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    PIT +8
    PIT/DEN u52
    Risk 1 to win 0.909

    PIT+120
    Risk 1.5 to win 1.8

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    2012/2013 Record
    ATS 0-5 (-6.2)
    ML 1-4 (-2.2)
    Parlay 0-2 (-0.7)

    Teaser 0-2 (-1.5)
    Prop 4-0 (+1.77)
    TOTAL 5-13 (-8.83)

    *Sigh* Rough start. I'm just glad that I kept my plays small. There's still lots of football to be played, so I'm not too worried. Right now I don't think that I have any plays for tomorrow, but I may put something on just for fun.

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    3 Small Plays

    ML:
    CIN+270
    0.5 to win 1.35

    Prop:
    Longest FG OAK/SD game
    o45(-105)
    0.5 to win 0.476

    Prop:
    Total FG Score OAK/SD game
    03.5(+140)
    0.5 to win 0.7

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    ML:
    CIN+270
    0.5 to win 1.35


    Prop:
    Longest FG OAK/SD game
    o45(-105)
    0.5 to win 0.476


    Prop:
    Total FG Score OAK/SD game
    03.5(+140)
    0.5 to win 0.7

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    2012/2013 Record
    ATS 0-5 (-6.2)
    ML 1-5 (-2.7)
    Parlay 0-2 (-0.7)

    Teaser 0-2 (-1.5)
    Prop 6-0 (+2.946)
    TOTAL 7-14 = 33% (-8.154)

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    9/13

    ATS:
    GB-5 (-110)
    Risk 1.5 to win 1.364
    Either they lose outright, or easily cover here. I don't foresee a close final.

    Prop:
    Fantasy H2H (DSI)
    B Marshall v J Nelson
    Marshall-2(-110)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.455
    Marshall is Cutler's go-to guy while Rodgers has lots of options.

    Added - Team Total
    GB u27.5 (+115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.575

    It seems like there is a little bit of value in this line
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-13-12 at 05:57 PM. Reason: Added Play

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    Halftime Play

    3rd Quarter Line
    CHI pk (+100)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.5

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    Live Spread (DSI):
    CHI+10.5 (-112)
    Risk 1.5 to win 13.39

    Hoping for a middle here

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    I now have GB-5 and CHI+10.5. I think this is a great spot - GB wins by 6-10, and I catch both sides. The above play on CHI should read "to win 1.339", not "13.39".

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    ATS:
    GB-5 (-110)
    Risk 1.5 to win 1.364

    CHI+10.5 (-112)
    Risk 1.5 to win 1.339


    3rd Quarter Line
    CHI pk (+100)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.5


    PROP:
    Fantasy H2H (DSI)
    B Marshall v J Nelson
    Marshall-2(-110)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.455


    Team Total
    GB u27.5 (+115)
    Risk 0.5 to win 0.575


    I guess maybe jumping on CHI+10.5 was a little greedy, but I thought that I had a good middle opportunity. Whatever the case, I still came out ahead 0.025 on the two. I finished the day up 0.439 - nothing to write home about, but a step in the right direction.

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    2012/2013 Record
    Spread 2-6 (-5.836)
    Moneyline 1-5 (-2.7)
    Parlay 0-2 (-0.7)

    Teaser 0-2 (-1.5)
    Proposition 6-1 (+2.446)
    Team Total 1-0 (+0.575)
    TOTAL 10-16 = 38% (-7.715)
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-13-12 at 11:08 PM. Reason: Bad Math

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    This is ridiculous trying to keep everything lined up in this thread. There's too much chance of error in tracking my record this way. I'm going to post all my plays in the SBR Spreadsheet going forward. I will sill post my bigger plays and any discussions on them in this thread. I'll also occasionally update my record in here, but for the most part all of my plays will be tracked in the spreadsheet. Here is the full link: http://tmoney33.mysbrforum.com/spreadsheet/

    My 2012 plays up to this point have been added to the spreadsheet for tracking purposes.
    Last edited by TMoney33; 09-15-12 at 11:58 PM.

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    9/16 1 PM games

    All of the following games had good value on the ML: AZ+625, IND+140, CLE+290, JAX+250, MIA+105. I popped each one for one unit*.

    *Note my units are based on % of BR, so they are all smaller this week.

    I like MIA and BAL to each win s/u, and the spreads weren't very enticing, so I went another 1u on MIA, and 1u on BAL.

    I really like CLE here against CIN. I have them on the ML and at +7. I also put them in a few parlays and teasers.

    ATS I really only liked 2 faves in the early games. I really like NOR -3, and expect them to shoot the lights out. It's early in the season though, so I only went 3u. I also like NYG, and swear that I think they were -7 most of the weekend at dsi. Today when I went to book it, they were at -8. That's a pretty big difference. So, I'm only going 1u here.

    I also put together some teasers/parlays, including a lotto ticket paying 14K/1.

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    Great Prop -

    DSI had "Total TD's for all NFL teams on Sunday" o60.5 (-175). Looked unbeatable, but I just couldn't bring myself to lay all that chalk.

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    I just hedged out my BAL+140 play by taking a live line of PHI+200 for 1u @ DSI. If BAL wins I earn 0.4u, if PHI wins I make 1u. Pretty nice opportunity. I think that it's even better now. Last I saw was PHI+250.

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    Not a true hedge, but I took NE 2nd Half -7(-120) risking 1.2u to win 1u. I think that NE will really ramp things up in the 2nd, and if they cover it will be by 7+. I still have AZ+625. So this won't really hurt unless NE wins by 1-6pts.

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    TRACKING

    I base my units on 1% of my BR. As the BR changes week to week, my unit size changes. However, for tracking, I realize that this is going to be incredibly difficult to keep up. All of my plays are posted to the spreadsheet, with the actual amount played, so I'm not going to bother trying to do all of the math in this thread. For tracking here, I'll just use +/- $ amount, and ROI based on the original BR of $1K.

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    DSI Live Betting

    I am really starting to love DSI's live betting. Not because of the platform (Bovada's is much nicer), but because of the opportunities presented.

    So far today, I have used it four times to hedge/arb plays.

    #1
    Original play: BAL+140 - Risking $8.5 to win $11.9
    Live play: PHI+200 - Risking $8.5 to win $17
    At this point, I was risk free with a min win of $3.4 and a max win of $8.5
    End Result: PHI won and instead of losing $8.5, I won $8.5
    Swing: +$17

    #2
    Original play: AZ+625 - Risking $8.5 to win $53.13
    Live play: NE-7(-120) - Risking $10.20 to win $8.5
    This one actually increased my risk with a min win of $0 and a max win of $18.7
    End Result: AZ won s/u and instead of winning $53.13 I won $44.63
    Swing: -$8.5

    #3
    Original play: STL+170 - Risking $8.5 to win $14.45
    Live play: WAS+130 - Risking $10 to win $13
    At this point, I was risk free with a min win of $4.45 and a max win of $4.5
    End Result: STL won s/u and instead of winning $14.45, I won $4.45
    Swing: -$10

    #4
    Original play: PIT-5 - Risking $17 to win $15.45
    Live play: NYJ+9.5(+154) - Risking $15 to win $23.1
    This one gave me a chance to middle if PIT won by 6-9 with a min win of $0.45 and a max win of $38.55
    End Result: PIT won by 17 and instead of winning $15.45 I won $0.45
    Swing: -$15

    End Result, I cost myself $16.5 in profit, but I did substantially reduce my risk which was very nice in the BAL/PHI and WAS/STL games. I also gave myself a nice chance at a middle on PIT/NYJ. Ultimately this cost me money today, but I can definitely see how this could make me money in the long run with some more tweaking. One big takeaway is that this should work much better with underdogs ATS than underdogs on the ML.

    All in all, a good learning experience.

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