[MiddleMan]

All non americans want to believe things like rugby players are tuff etc etc ... The reason they wear pads is because they are so dangerous they would kill people every hit..

Try running full speed head to head against a top linebacker in the NFL. They would spend the rest of their life in a wheel chair.

Interesting. Wayne Carey would disagree.

In his book, "The Truth Hurts", Carey mentions a trip he took to Vegas with a couple of mates in 2002, after he retired from North Melbourne. On this trip, Carey and his mates were introduced to cocaine by a couple of large African-American males. Carey mentioned one of the males played professional football. After spending a good 3-4 hours with them partying, and with the affects of the cocaine well and truly kicked in, one of Carey's mates told the professional footballer that, "Wayne is pretty big back in Australia. He's a champion Aussie Rules Footballer." After the American pro footballer took no interest in Wayne being a big hit back home, Wayne's drug affected head suggested to the pro footballer to position themselves 30m apart facing each other, and on their count, both Carey and the pro footballer would charge towards each other and the first person to pull out loses. Challenge accepted.

Wayne reckons neither he nor the large American Footballer pulled out, but Wayne continued standing, while sending the Footballer flying on his backside, who was gasping for air and badly hurt.

[ACoochy]

Wayne reckons neither he nor the large American Footballer pulled out, but Wayne continued standing, while sending the Footballer flying on his backside, who was gasping for air and badly hurt.

Yeah i read that too...

Just shows that although NFL type players are conditioned to take hits they are only conditioned to take hits when wearing padding...

Take that off of them against a aussie rules player and they become putty as their bodies simply arent use to non protective hits...

[ATSFTW]

Yeah i read that too...

Just shows that although NFL type players are conditioned to take hits they are only conditioned to take hits when wearing padding...

Take that off of them against a aussie rules player and they become putty as their bodies simply arent use to non protective hits...

Again... This isn't the argument. The argument is if the NFL's best players trained to play a different game (rugby, AFL) they would dominate. Of course they would lose if you just took them over there today with no concept of rules or how to tackle/get tackled differently.

[portetdaspet]

Here is my short guide to the rule differences between Rugby League and American Football. I realise this is not exhaustive, but it's meant to be a guide.

In Rugby League:
1. No forward passes
2. 5 downs instead of 4 (sometimes 6 if there is a penalty)
3. It's always goal to go (5 downs to cover whole field)
4. No break between plays (ball must be "snapped" continuously after tackle)
5. Ball is live after any kick/punt (so long as the player on the kicking team was behind the kicker)
6. Any fumble forward is an automatic turnover
7. Tries (Touchdowns) are worth 4 (although you have to ground the ball in the endzone), PATS are worth 2 (although you have to take them in a straight line back from where try was scored rather than right in front)
8. FG kicked in play is worth 1 whereas a kick after a penalty is worth 2

Rugby League and American Football were both developed from Rugby Union to eliminate some of the stupid rules so are quite similar. Australian Rules developed from a combination of Irish Football and a local aboriginal game with negligent impact from rugby (other than the shape of the ball) so there is really no comparison.

[portetdaspet]

Wayne reckons neither he nor the large American Footballer pulled out, but Wayne continued standing, while sending the Footballer flying on his backside, who was gasping for air and badly hurt.

I'm not sure this story is fantastic evidence either way given the fact they were both on cocaine at the time.

However, I do think that AFL hits are comparable to NFL hits if you factor in the padding under certain circumstances. Of course, the biggest NFL hits tend to be guys leading with their helmet which does not happen in AFL since no one is dumb enough to lead with an unprotected head.

Another interesting difference is big hits in NFL come almost invariably from in front of the player. Whereas in the AFL since the game is truly 360 degrees, hits can come from any direction.

Anyone who thinks there are no big hits in AFL should watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1aU0hz5Tf8

[ATSFTW]

Anyone who thinks there are no big hits in AFL should watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1aU0hz5Tf8

Ok. Watched the video. Then laughed at the thought of some of those 5'9 175lb guys trying to tackle a bigger/stronger/faster Adrian Peterson at full speed. How is this even an argument?

[jjgold]

Aussie football players=clumsy white clowns that drink beer every fukkin night and just want to crack heads

They are tough but too slow and non athletic

[portetdaspet]

Ok. Watched the video. Then laughed at the thought of some of those 5'9 175lb guys trying to tackle a bigger/stronger/faster Adrian Peterson at full speed. How is this even an argument?

First of all the average AFL player is 6'2 and 190-195lb which puts them in the same ballpark as wide receivers and corners in terms of size. Obviously some are bigger and some are smaller, but it is impossible to play AFL at more than 250lbs because of the running involved. They may look smaller than NFL equivalents because they have no pads on.

I don't doubt that if you matched up Adrian Peterson 1 on 1 against most AFL players he would have a good chance of running over the top of them, but that's not really how AFL is played. If you take on a tackler and go down then it is a turnover, so you need to get rid of the ball before you go to ground. There is no way that Peterson would run the length of the 190 yard field through 18 opponents where blocking off the ball is illegal without getting tackled. Also, almost every AFL starter would have better endurance stats than Peterson.

The video simply demonstrates that AFL players can take some pretty big hits and they have no protection. I'm certainly not saying the hits are bigger than the NFL and there are far fewer per game, but its not like hits from an unpadded NFL player would be a complete shock to any AFL player.

[Lookingtostart]

Can you imagine trying to tackle these guys on an Australian rules football field??

Lol

Sure, would be easy when they cramp up after 5 mins.

[Lookingtostart]

Blacks would dominate Rugby/Australian rules football

Can you imagine trying to tackle these guys on an Australian rules football field??

Lol

Who would be trying to do most of the tackling?

Tackle this guy (that's in the 4th quarter at the end of the game):

[burkestar]

I think this jj character deserves a medal for the amount of schlong and turde that seems to be pouring in and out of his mouth

[pronk]

do not know much about it to have an opinion

They would all drop dead like flies just before halftime. Aussie players are toughest sumbithches on earth.