[BigTenSports]

I really hope the Giants suffer in some form or fashion for allowing that last minute touchdown in a run the clock out situation.

This team isn't NFL caliber and really doesn't belong on an NFL field.

If a team is at the 40, running the clock out with 2 minutes, and you can't even prevent a TD, you aren't even a football team, much less an NFL team.

[k13]

speaking of vegas, are you gonna post the power rankings info like you did last week? where did you find that? I liked the detail..

When I can get them, I'll post them. They are on ESPN insider sometimes but you have to pay for that.

Check these out for College. I think it's for Week 13. Love how they have +5 for HFA where it actually is...

Most Overrated Teams by BCS

Team	BCS	Vegas Rankings
Penn State	19	28
Virginia Tech	5	t-14
Kansas St	11	19
Baylor	18	t-26
Georgia Tech	23	29

To calculate the projected margin of victory for any matchup:
Take true power (home team), ADD home-field advantage and SUBTRACT true power (away team).


To calculate a the projected point spread of any matchup:
Replace the true power with point-spread power (which includes bettor bias, just like the actual Vegas line does).


Here are the Week 13 Vegas College Football Rankings:
Pregame.com's Vegas College Football Rankings

Rank	Team	Home-Field	True Power	Bettor Bias	Point-Spread Power
1	LSU	4.5	100	2.5	102.5
2	Alabama	5	98.5	2	100.5
t-3	Oklahoma St.	3.5	95	1	96
t-3	Oklahoma	5	95	0.5	95.5
5	Oregon	5	94.5	1.5	96
6	Stanford	4	94	1	95
7	Boise St.	5	92	1.5	93.5
8	Wisconsin	4.5	91.5	1	92.5
t-9	Arkansas	4	90	1	91
t-9	Georgia	4	90	0.5	90.5
11	USC	3.5	87.5	0.5	88
t-12	Houston	3.5	86.5	1	87.5
t-12	TCU	4	86.5	0	86.5
t-14	Texas A&M	3.5	86	0	86
t-14	Virginia Tech	4.5	86	0	86
t-16	Notre Dame	3.5	85.5	1	86.5
t-16	Michigan St.	3.5	85.5	0	85.5
18	Michigan	3.5	84.5	0	84.5
t-19	Kansas St.	3.5	84	0	84
t-19	Clemson	4	84	0	84
21	Missouri	3.5	83.5	0	83.5
22	Florida St.	3.5	83	-0.5	82.5
t-23	Texas	4	82	0	82
t-23	S. Carolina	3.5	82	-0.5	81.5
25	Nebraska	4	81	0	81
t-26	W. Virginia	3.5	80.5	0	80.5
t-26	Baylor	3	80.5	0	80.5
28	Penn St.	4	80	-1.5	78.5
t-29	Ohio St.	4.5	79	0	79
t-29	Georgia Tech	3.5	79	0	79
31	Miami Fl.	3	78	0	78
32	Florida	4.5	77.5	0	77.5
33	Auburn	4	77	0	77
t-34	Tulsa	3	76.5	0	76.5
t-34	So. Miss.	3.5	76.5	0	76.5
t-36	Utah	4	75	0	75
t-36	Virginia	3	75	0	75
t-36	Arizona St.	3.5	75	0	75
t-39	Iowa	3.5	74.5	0	74.5
t-39	Cincinnati	3.5	74.5	0	74.5

Biggest improvement -- TRUE POWER

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[dlunc3]

thanks man... good stuff

[beerman2619]

Dlunc you stuck on stupid still son? How did Tom Brady do vs the Cowboys defense earlier in the year kid? He struggled son. Only game dallas got blown out was to your beloved Eagles. Other then that Dallas lost all close games where they were up. Up by a large margin vs the Jets and Lions. Had the Pats beat in New England but Brady led them back. Course the Giants won in New England. Clowns saying the NFC West is better then the East really. You clowns ever check numbers? Dallas 3-0 Washington 3-1 Giants 2-2 Eagles 1-2. So the NFC East is 9 and 6 vs the NFC West. Dlunc change that pic in your profile fat boy is as good as gone in Philly. Time to take that poster down from your ceiling.

[beerman2619]

This clown says Dallas is worse then the Lions what were they up by 26 or something on them. . That is before Demarco Murray took over at running back also for Dallas. Come on kids learn the game then post. Don't let the hate you have for some teams make you look ignorant. Dallas beat themselves in that game well Romo did but still ha.

[Big Bear]

some people are still picking Dallas Cowboys to win the super bowl!

[dlunc3]

This clown says Dallas is worse then the Lions what were they up by 26 or something on them. . That is before Demarco Murray took over at running back also for Dallas. Come on kids learn the game then post. Don't let the hate you have for some teams make you look ignorant. Dallas beat themselves in that game well Romo did but still ha.

I love how no game dallas loses means anything... what is the excuse for getting blown out in philly? murray had taken over by that point right? you wanna talk about beating themselves? philly beat themselves in 6 out of 7 losss this year... this whole division is garbage... and all these garbage teams can play with each other. One of this shit teams has to come out of it though.. so it may as well be dallas, as they do have the easier schedule.. nothing is over yet though, as dallas has 3 tough division games left

[zsr]

some people are still picking Dallas Cowboys to win the super bowl!

With there remaining schedule may get a bye and probably 1 home game, decent chance. Obviously getting through the packers will be hard for anybody

[dlunc3]

With there remaining schedule may get a bye and probably 1 home game, decent chance. Obviously getting through the packers will be hard for anybody

na, they will be lucky to win more then 9 games.. playing in TB will be tough along with three division games left... gotta get by ariz first though, which I think they will.. max 10 wins, but I see 9

[dlunc3]

With there remaining schedule may get a bye and probably 1 home game, decent chance. Obviously getting through the packers will be hard for anybody

I see you play a lot of sbr poker tourneys.... how many players are in those? before betting on sports, i lived off of poker for 3 years..but just struggle to find time any more. I would like to get some points towards the ipad2, just couldnt see myself staying focused in a big tourney playing just for points haha is it big multi table of just a small game?

[zsr]

Today they changed it to 55, before it was 45. You can play 1 per day and it normally takes an hour to get down to the final table. Not too bad, there's 2 bigger ones on the weekend but I don't usually play those. There's cash games going too for points. Tourneys are free if you become a pro as well.

[zsr]

I think they'll beat Tampa and Arizona easy so there's 10, then they should win 2 of 3 against new York and Philly. I think 11 minimum but who knows.

[dlunc3]

yea ill be a pro one of these days... i tried during the summer, but deposited on a site i had previously had an account with so they didnt allow it.. i dont like having money on these offshore accounts, guess its worth 200 bucks though

[dlunc3]

I think they'll beat Tampa and Arizona easy so there's 10, then they should win 2 of 3 against new York and Philly. I think 11 minimum but who knows.

tampa and ariz would only give them 9 right? idk, i think tampa gives them trouble, after seeing them struggle with miami and wash the past couple weeks.. that along with the fact that they have won 4 straight, and its tough to keep that long of a streak going in this league... but yea, i agree they are better then both of those teams

[zsr]

Yea I've been pro just a few months and made the 200 back from the store plus like 300. I hear ya though I just deposited to go pro, cleared the bonus and withdrew.

[zsr]

Oh duh was thinking they were 8-4. 10 wins probably most likely.

[dlunc3]

This clown says Dallas is worse then the Lions what were they up by 26 or something on them. . That is before Demarco Murray took over at running back also for Dallas. Come on kids learn the game then post. Don't let the hate you have for some teams make you look ignorant. Dallas beat themselves in that game well Romo did but still ha.

did demarco murray play today vs Ariz?


as stated... this division is garbage

[jimmyeatworld]

[zsr]

You know your division sucks when the NFC west is feasting on you lol.

[zsr]

You were right on this one dlunc

[zsr]

Still better than the giants tho

[SportsPedagogy]

I really hope the Giants suffer in some form or fashion for allowing that last minute touchdown in a run the clock out situation.

This team isn't NFL caliber and really doesn't belong on an NFL field.

If a team is at the 40, running the clock out with 2 minutes, and you can't even prevent a TD, you aren't even a football team, much less an NFL team.

Remember when this seemed like a good post ?

[ZetaPsi808]

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