[dlunc3]

how can indy keep up with this offense?? Indy hasnt scored more then 10 the last 4 games..

[chopperocker]

the sim -
CAR 58.5% SU
IND 55% ATS
Total 54% Over

winless teams have had some luck off the BYE in the past. for me its IND +3 / +3.5 or pass.

[mrlegend28]

Indy ML if anything. Rookie QB on the road is still a rookie QB on the road

[chargers4222]

and curtis painter is still curtis painter

[GamblerSpirit]

This is one those games where over thinking it will be counterproductive. How does Carolina not win this game? I'm on it.

[slacker00]

Gotta like Indy at home after a bye, too much pride for this once great team. Two poor teams, but one is getting points at home.

[Landscaper]

Carolina seems 2 easy

[shift_knob]

even during a bye it will only mean they'll have fresh legs. they have pretty strict rules about practicing during the bye so its not like they will be any "better" per say. i'll on carolina on this one as well. indy D is not that great, carolina can put up points.

[shift_knob]

and i wanted to add they will have more time to prep for cam and co.

[SteveRyan]

I was mentioning in another thread that this is Indy's ONLY shot this season for a win. After the Carolina game, they will lose all games with only one shot in the last week vs Jacksonville.

Last imperfect season was 2008 (Detroit...remember that???). Before that it was 1984 (Baltimore Colts).

It's worth the pot shot. Colts ML +180.

[PAULYPOKER]

Panthers -3

[zsr]

Cam sucks, painter sucks, both defenses suck. Take the points.

[dlunc3]

Cam sucks, painter sucks, both defenses suck. Take the points.

that is true, but painter has only been able to generate 13 ppg, cam at least can put 23 per game on the board... im not too sure where painter will make up this differential

[zsr]

Yea I'm having a hard time seeing how the colts can score too, cams always good for multiple turnovers tho. Idk. I'm gonna pass on this one, gl though.

[dlunc3]

i tilt bet the gb/dal ml teaser last night for a nice chunk... you have any thoughts on that? Made $500 on the pats last night, but got bored and bet some stupid props and lost $800 haha so threw a nice chunk on this teaser... I feel good about it, but debating hedging my bet some..

[zsr]

Gb Dallas should both win i think, which one are you worried about? Probably get plus 300 on Detroit or miami money line so hedging is never a bad idea when it's +ev. A lot of people like Detroit but i don't see it

[chopperocker]

you just got jinxed by pauly the tranny. now you better hedge.

[ManBearPig]

Winless teams off a bye are 23-22-1 since 2000 19-27 (O/U). Home teams furthermore are 12-12 so there's not much of an angle here.

[troynewell47]

carolina will kill them

[Big Bear]

if the Panthers lose this game they will have a shot at getting the #1 pick

[jarquie27]

Cam is undefeated against the sorry teams. Spread wise

[Big Bear]

Probably less than 5,000 people show up for this game

[ManBearPig]

Probably less than 5,000 people show up for this game

Hell, probably less than 5k will watch it...ugly will be the definition of this one.

[rain_e]

Not over thinking this one at all. Laying the points.

[slacker00]

Maybe Indy pulls a switch at QB? Painter had his shot, maybe they go with Orlovsky or maybe even Collins against his old team?

[Mr Handicapable]

Maybe Indy pulls a switch at QB? Painter had his shot, maybe they go with Orlovsky or maybe even Collins against his old team?

If Orlovsky doesn't start then he'll come in early. Painter has been horrible. The Colts haven't quit (except for the Saints game) contrary to public opinion they just aren't getting decent QB play and the D wears out. I think they come out rested with a healthier O-line and run the ball well against Carolina's front 7 which is the worst in the NFL. Kevin Smith came directly from 2nd shift at Burger King and got 140/2 tds last week. Cam Newton also might be in for a shock with the speed of Freeney/Mathis on turf. I think he turns it over atleast 2-3 times. Steve Smith still goes wild for well over 100 and a TD or 2. Add to that Carolina could easily get a TD return or a long one on the Colts $hit special teams. Carolina is 0-4 on the road giving up 35 ppg and an average of 61 ppg total. Thats why I like Over 44 (44.5 now).

Someone wins by a field goal 27-24

[thebestthereis]

if you haven't noticed, the colts don't care about winning and are not trying to. they only have a one game buffer behind st. blowis. until they get the two game buffer for the suck sweepstakes you should never be on them, ever.

[kobefanatic]

like the colts

[mgcolby]

Gotta like Indy at home after a bye, too much pride for this once great team. Two poor teams, but one is getting points at home.

Pride? They laid down and let NO's score 62 points on them, then came back the next week and lost 27-10 to the Titans. Followed by a 31-7 loss to Atlanta and a 17-3 loss to Jacksonville both at home. And last I checked Gabbert is a rookie, a rookie playing no where near the level of Cam Newton.

[PAULYPOKER]

The line should be Carolina -8....

[BiGTonyHAHA]

paulypoker is right it should be at least a td... carolina has been close in practically every game this year... carolina d gave up 20+ to det last week few weeks before that kasay missed a fg against minn. and they also covered against gb in the beginning of the season. indy cant play d nor can they score. hows it only a fg is beyond me. carolina is also 8-1 after scoring 35+pts and 8-1 after allowing 35+ pts.

[BiGTonyHAHA]

my research on that 8-1 comes from one of my many football handicapper books. this is one is from the playbook the 2011 handicappers yearbook i got from my local library

[Mr Handicapable]

if you haven't noticed, the colts don't care about winning and are not trying to. they only have a one game buffer behind st. blowis. until they get the two game buffer for the suck sweepstakes you should never be on them, ever.

I live in Indy and know this team. The players haven't quit except for the Saints game where they got down 21-0 in like 6 minutes. The QB play and the coaching has been terrible but they'll put up a fight and some points against Carolina. They've been getting crushed because their O-line was a trainwreck and Painter was getting pressured up the middle. Constanzo and Diem have came back and they'll run big vs Carolina. They may lose but they'll score and its going Over 44.5!

[dlunc3]

Has indy even scored 44.5 points total the last 5 weeks combined?

[chopperocker]

Winless teams off a bye are 23-22-1 since 2000 19-27 (O/U). Home teams furthermore are 12-12 so there's not much of an angle here.

check the same trend from week 6 out.