[Illusion]

Share your best bets for Thursday.

Make sure you post a line for all bets and good luck!

[FADEME]

Narizona -1 = Nariz beat them by 16 in their previous meeting but that was on their home court; still think though they're the better team; their best player Landry isnt a 3 pt shooter and i dont think colorado shoots the three that much; 3 pt shooters have the extra adv at home IMO

Jacksonville st -2 - taking the home team; east illin (0-10 on the road) ill take my chances with jackson st

[rjt721]

Washington +1.5
Minnesota -1.5 (square play, I know)

[rrvrs]

California +11
Only lost 1 game by more than 9. to ucla

[Dbldown11]

hey illusion just curious are you gonna post wednsdays results tonight or tomorrow? And thanks by the way for keep track of this on a nightly basis if i havnt said so before

[freeVICK]

second that, your the man illusion. greatly appreciate it

[awhitejackson]

No lies, ( I lost 17 units last week and it almost washed me out) But i am 12-0 Tuesday and Wednesday which has quickly made up half of my losses...So as fate would have it Ill lose all tommorow...Going to throw big though...Anyways Im posting..

Stanford...-1.5.. 1 unit
USC...-3.. 1 unit
Cal...+9.5.. .75 unit
B.C...+18... 1 unit
Austin P...-3 1 unit
Minn...-3.. 1 unit
N.D....-8.5... 1 unit
CSU Nor...-8.. 1.5 unit
Wisc...-4... .75 unit

....GL

[Illusion]

Wednesday 01/30/08 Results:

jagmaster: 7-1 +7.90
Dbldown11: 8-2 +7.40
ed4rwings: 6-1 +6.20
MoneySportsGuy: 6-0 +6.00
rjt721: 6-0 +6.00
rake922: 1-0 +5.00
tin8shusd: 6-2 +4.90
McRich: 6-1 +4.85
EaglesPhan36: 3-1 +4.85
PLUSLINES: 4-0-1 +4.00
Tres: 3-1 +3.80
SchlepRock: 2-1 +3.80
Quebb Diesel: 4-1 +2.90
Beachbum64: 4-2 +2.60
Illusion: 3-2 +2.40
LINE-crush-ER: 3-2 +2.40
chinodeft26: 4-2 +1.70
Wrigley: 1-0 +1.00
onlòóker: 2-4 +0.37
jerseydave77: 1-1 -0.10
brock: 1-1 -0.10
chipski: 1-1-1 -0.10
BigMoney: 2-2 -0.20
LT Profits: 2-2 -0.20
clcoyle93: 1-1 -0.30
danno331: 0-1 -1.10
Junkyard Dog: 0-1 -1.10
Checkerboard: 0-1 -1.10
EastsidaProduct: 4-4 -1.20
$Bnizi: 1-2 -1.20
Lucky13: 1-2 -1.20
Doc_Holladay: 1-2 -2.40
Beachbum64: 0-1 -4.40
Tigers1230: 3-2 -5.00
Mr Nuts: 0-1 -5.50

*Parlays and teasers not reflected in grading*

If you spot a grading error please send me a private message.

[regularguy]

1* New Mexico State -3

1* Arizona State +13.5

1* Minnesota -2.5

(But, rjt, it's a square play that the line is moving against. Already a full point. That doesn't bother me so badly. I personally get more worried when the books are moving the line in a manner that encourages a square play. That suggests to me that the big money is going one way and the mob of bettors is going the other, or it may suggest that the book is willing to bet against the majority of bettors (one or the other might be happening with Wisconsin-Milwaukee, and maybe also with Stanford, today). And, anyway, I'm a pretty simple guy and this is a play I just happen to like. Michigan blows.)

[BigMoney]

Murray St+3 1/2 beatem by 12 last game and on 8 game win streak and shoots the ball better...

Temple-1

slight lean towards ND-7

[freeVICK]

Arizona State +13.5

Minnesota -2.5

(But, rjt, it's a square play that the line is moving against. Already a full point. That doesn't bother me so badly. I personally get more worried when the books seem to be encouraging a square play (that might be happening with Detroit U., and maybe also with Stanford, today. And, anyway, it's a play I like, which matters the most of all. Michigan blows.)

what is a square play

[tevari]

fordham ML @ even money

[Doc_Holladay]

what is a square play

There are 2 kind of plays Square and Sharp

A square is like me just your average joe and a sharp is like a pro gambler that has some insight or proven track record of making plays. If a sharp make a big play he will move the line by say one. If I make a big play I will move the line maybe a half. Usually the majority of the public are squares.

That is how a friend of mine explained it to me.

[WestsidePete]

South Alabama -2

[Augustus]

Notre Dame -8½, 5 units
UL Lafayette -7½, 5 units

[EaglesPhan36]

Northern Arizona -2
California +10
N.M. State/Hawaii UNDER 147

[regularguy]

Essentially, I see a "square" play as one that is attracting the overwhelming majority of bettors -- but perhaps not the most money.

Here's how someone by the name of squeekycleen more eloquently put it on another site though:

Square plays are obvious plays that "can't lose". They are the plays that your butt buddy at the watercooler is touting. They are the plays stupid drunk guys fawn over at the bars. They are the plays you come up with after watching ESPN and GameDay for your inside info. When someone says "Dude, the Lakers are only laying 2 to the Pistons, holy shit dude, they have Kobe, this is a ****ing LOCKKKKKKK", you can rest assured they are a Joe Public square hunting down square plays. Square plays, in the long run, are hazardous to your health. When the majority of action heads to one side (in terms of number of wagers, not total dollar value wagered), you have the makings of a square play. If gambling was so easy that when everybody who picked something won, we would all be millionaires. I try to search out square plays and fade them. This takes some practice, and you have to know how to look for them, but it is not very hard.

I usually spend a little time every day at thespread.com (the betting charts).

Please note though, that it's been a pretty bad hoops season for me, so please take this all with a grain of salt.

And, illusion, sorry to muck up your thread with all this chatter.

[Doc_Holladay]

2 early picks hopefully more to follow

Going against my Tarheels

BC +18.5 2 units
Murray ST +3 2 units

[jerseydave77]

Both for a Unit
Minnesota -2.5
N. Arizona -2

Looking at taking New Mexico St -3 in the midnight game. NM St is finally at full strength and coming off a solid win. I'll post my final decision on this game later but would enjoy opinions.

Good Luck Tonight

[Lucky13]

I'm liking
BC+19.5
NC St +18
ASU +14

and thanks for nothing West Virginia

[Dbldown11]

youve got me listed on yesterdays results twice illusion once as 8-2 and once as 0-1... I belive 8-2 is correct. Thanks Illusion

[awhitejackson]

Minnesota is not at all a square play, even with the line moved a full point from what was quoted...Its Michigan guys, Michigan..

[Tres]

all for 2x

Wis Milwaukee -2.5
S Alabama -2.5
Dook -18.5

[Gundog]

My only play for tonight is Minnesota - 2.5 @ Michigan.
If my Math is correct and my Ranking System is correct Minnesota on paper should win this game + 4 or more.
We will see on the floor this evening.
My pick is Minnesota - 2.5

[Dbldown11]

Notre Dame -8.5 *1
Wisconsin Milwaukee -2.5 *3
Tennesse Chattanooga -5 *2
Arkansas LR +13 *1
Cleveland St. +3.5 *2
Fordham PK *1
Austin Peay -3 *3
Northern Arizona -2 *2
Idaho St. +9 *1

[MOMONEY]

This is my first post on this site. I've enjoyed everyone's picks and how they come to their decisions. I have an easy one tonight and I'll tell you why. I'm an ACC fan, went to NC State. I follow ACC closely. BC catchin 18.5 points tonight is incredible. I know UNC has the ability to beat them by 18.5 but the odds are they will not. UNC is struggling as of late and teams are learning how to stay in the game with them. They lack good defense, and love to run and gun. BC will stay within this spread. I hope you all take advantage of it.

BC +18.5

[LT Profits]

Wisconsin -4

[chipski]

Nc.St +18
Ucla -13
Stanford -1

[Beachbum64]

*2 N Dame - 8
*1 Jack St. -2
*1 Duke - 18
*4 Denver - 4
*5 Cal North - 8 That's ALL FOR NOW

*1 N Ariz -2
*1 Wisc Mill - 2 1/2
*10 N mex St. -3

[chinodeft26]

all 1 units

sou ala -2.5
murray st +3
n ariz -2

leaning on jax st -2 but both teams absolutely suck so i dont know

[tin8shusd]

here goes...all one unit plays including the teaser, good luck.

wisconsin -4
notre dame -8.5
murray st. +3
n.m. st./hawaii under 148 (-105)
northern az -2.5

teaser (risk 5/win 6)
n.c. st. +28
b.c. +28
usc +6.5
ucla -3.5

[Wrigley]

Minnesota -1.5

[maritime]

Washington Huskies +2 -115

[Quebb Diesel]

Here is my 8 team parlay for the day

Minnesota -3 1/2
South Alabama -3
Denver -4
Cal State Northridge -8 1/2
Stanford -2
Wisconsin Milwaukee -3

Notre Dame -460
Mavericks -1 1/2

A night for the favorites...i hope so at least!

[diogee]

Minn -2 4 units
New Mexico St 4 units
N Ariz -1.5 3 units
Southern Bama -3 3 units
W Kentucky over 130.5 3 units