1. 12-25-16 04:26 PM #1
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    Free money: Illinois State -6

    Do it
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  2. 12-25-16 04:34 PM #2
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    Ehh I'm scared but I believe you
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  3. 12-25-16 04:41 PM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheeArchBishop View Post
    Ehh I'm scared but I believe you
    I get your point. It's so easy to be scared looking at the H2H matchups. But the spread is that "huge" for a reason. I like capping a game like this, where the contrarian pick puts money in your wallet.
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    wouldn't call it free, considering Tulsa has already beat them once this month
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    I have a ton of faith in you conquerer, especially howbyoy KILL in NBA. Let's do thisssss
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  6. 12-25-16 04:53 PM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    wouldn't call it free, considering Tulsa has already beat them once this month
    Yes. Tulsa won in a game in which Illinois State won the 1H by as many as 4 points. Expect a double reversal tonight. Illinois State wins both halves tonight. They're at home.
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    I'm confused. How is Illinois St at Home? The game is in Hawaii?...
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  8. 12-25-16 05:09 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by slamuels2021 View Post
    I'm confused. How is Illinois St at Home? The game is in Hawaii?...
    That's how you're supposed to look at it. Yes the game is in Hawaii but Tulsa isn't expected to fare well on the road in this matchup. Hence, Illinois State is designated as the home team. This means Illinois State should be at least a 9-point favorite playing in their true home.
    We'll see how this ends.
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  9. 12-25-16 05:14 PM #9
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    A 16-0 run to start the game won't hurt.
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  10. 12-25-16 05:18 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
    That's how you're supposed to look at it. Yes the game is in Hawaii but Tulsa isn't expected to fare well on the road in this matchup. Hence, Illinois State is designated as the home team. This means Illinois State should be at least a 9-point favorite playing in their true home.
    We'll see how this ends.
    that's some ridiculous logic regarding the home situation....who gives a fuk what team is considered home when the game is being played in Hawaii.....
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  11. 12-25-16 05:25 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    that's some ridiculous logic regarding the home situation....who gives a penetrate what team is considered home when the game is being played in Hawaii.....
    I get your point. True. But from a pure sporting perspective, a "home team" designation has to be "earned" on a neutral venue. The notation "Neutral venue" is supposed to be indicated when neither team is supposed to enjoy home advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
    I get your point. True. But from a pure sporting perspective, a "home team" designation has to be "earned" on a neutral venue. The notation "Neutral venue" is supposed to be indicated when neither team is supposed to enjoy home advantage.
    Wrong. That's not how it works.
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  13. 12-25-16 05:33 PM #13
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    I took the 1H -3. Thank you for this pick...not sure I've ever seen a team this hungry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
    I get your point. True. But from a pure sporting perspective, a "home team" designation has to be "earned" on a neutral venue. The notation "Neutral venue" is supposed to be indicated when neither team is supposed to enjoy home advantage.
    My money says that the margin of victory in both teams previous games in THIS tournament determined home/away for this third place game
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    the tourney has to designate a home team/away team. Home wears white, away dark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    Wrong. That's not how it works.
    Yes, these things aren't stated officially, but you have to follow the W-L record (ATS-wise) in such situations to see what I'm talking about.
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    Took this play last night. Let's get it!
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  18. 12-25-16 05:39 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
    Yes, these things aren't stated officially, but you have to follow the W-L record (ATS-wise) in such situations to see what I'm talking about.
    You're missing the TOURNEY situation
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    THE TOURNAMENT designated the home/away based on the previous games already played in this tourney. HAS NOTHING to do with ATS lol

    C'mon man
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  20. 12-25-16 05:43 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hat View Post
    THE TOURNAMENT designated the home/away based on the previous games already played in this tourney. HAS NOTHING to do with ATS lol

    C'mon man
    It's ok. It's nice when we can all feed off of each other here. Thanks for your educating comments.
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  21. 12-25-16 05:45 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by rgrant2214 View Post
    Took this play last night. Let's get it!
    I can only be glad you're on this play.
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    all good...I only know this from playing in many of these tourneys......BOL....looks like Tulsa can't handle the zone press
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    Quote Originally Posted by goldust View Post
    I took the 1H -3. Thank you for this pick...not sure I've ever seen a team this hungry.
    Nice you got this.
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  24. 12-25-16 07:09 PM #24
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    1-0 +1.00

    Illinois State had quite a rough 2H but we cashed our play nevertheless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conqueror View Post
    That's how you're supposed to look at it. Yes the game is in Hawaii but Tulsa isn't expected to fare well on the road in this matchup. Hence, Illinois State is designated as the home team. This means Illinois State should be at least a 9-point favorite playing in their true home.
    We'll see how this ends.
    Lol
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    Thank you again Conquerer!!!
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