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    RickJ
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    College basketball theory

    I have been on this forum posting picks for about 3 years now but as some of you might know I have been running a blog for about 4 years now putting out daily picks. All have been free since I do this merely as a hobby.

    I would like to get some feed back from all of you regarding my response to this email I posted on my blog this morning. I know there are some top handicappers here and always looking to get some insights.

    Here is what I posted this morning------

    I received the following email yesterday :

    "Can you help me understand your logic behind the Wright State Pick. I am a fairly serious winning small stakes CBB player and I am interested in your methodology if you would be willing to share."

    My Response:

    I really wont divulge my exact methods but can make the following comments:

    This is the first year I have been playing college baskets using this method. There are so far then only 96 plays and we are hitting 63.5%. Statisically it means very little. Once we get up to 1000 plays then maybe the numbers start meaning something and at 5000 you will get a pretty good idea how valid the method is.

    So with that caveat this is the first season I have completely ignored what the public is doing in ncaa baskets and also have eliminated short dogs from consideration no matter how good they look to me. A short dog as I define it is +1.5 to +6.5. With the nature of the scoring in the end game a pick that is a short dog to win has to end up with things going perfect for you at the end of the game.

    A game that is a good example of that is the texas tech Oklahoma game Saturday night. The line was TT -4.5. Oklahoma lead by around 8 at the half. And it wasnt until the last 30 seconds that the score ballooned up to 10. A bettor that had Oklahoma would be telling everyone today what a close game that was and really looked like Oklahoma should of covered. But most short dog games look that way going into the last 30 seconds are so...then the fouling and 3 point shots determine the final score.

    Now I have had a handicapper I know mention I should consider +1.5 and +2 as not falling into the short dog category. My cutoff of 1 is arbitrary to a degree...but I have found at some point you have to give some consideration that the books know what they are doing...in otherwords respect the line! So I start respecting it at 1.5 to 6.5.

    As to Wright State..........I use 2 neural net models to come up with a predicted winner. Both are run independent of each other and both use different approaches to determine the outcome of the game. I combine that with 2 other models that look for strong situational tendencies that might exist in the matchup between the two teams. For me to pick a side all for of my models has to be in agreement. If any one of the models is even neutral on the game I pass.

    I hope that explains a little about my methods. The software packages I use for my models was developed in principle by me and then put into action using a programmer to get everything workable for me.

    Thanks for the email

    RickJ


    Does anyone have some comments on the above.....I would be very interested in starting a discussion on college basket handicapping.
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    2daBank
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    i understand what your saying with the "short dogs"...i play them but anytime i bet a team catching less than 6 im looking for a game i think will be very close fully expecting them to win and just look at the points as a bonus...so i guess you could say if im playing a "short dog" imo they are more of a "live dog"...agree with your 6.5 cutoff as 7 is the key number i look for when starting to look at teams i think cover with much less chance of winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    i understand what your saying with the "short dogs"...i play them but anytime i bet a team catching less than 6 im looking for a game i think will be very close fully expecting them to win and just look at the points as a bonus...so i guess you could say if im playing a "short dog" imo they are more of a "live dog"...agree with your 6.5 cutoff as 7 is the key number i look for when starting to look at teams i think cover with much less chance of winning
    WOW we have same out look...on dogs anyways..

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