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    Two big revenge games on Sunday

    Wisconsin +4 at Michigan
    Villanova +3.5 at Creighton

    Do either of them bounce back, or do they get swept? Badgers got whipped on their home court by the Wolverines last month. Nova was absolutely buried by the Jays earlier this season.

    Thoughts?

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    its tough. they are almost unbetable. i mean did creighton only win because they were lights out?? or are they better? And wisconsin and michigan are amazing one game, terrible the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizcodlifa View Post
    its tough. they are almost unbetable. i mean did creighton only win because they were lights out?? or are they better? And wisconsin and michigan are amazing one game, terrible the next.
    I think Nova is a better team than Creighton.

    I personally believe Wisconsin is garbage, but the line looks awfully short here.

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    You can throw Siena and Temple into this discussion as well, and they're both playing at home in revenge spots.

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    Am I the only one that doesn't think Nova is that good? I'm probably going to back Creighton here. Creighton joined the big east to play games like these. This will probably be the biggest home game for them in years. When was the last time a top 10 team came to Omaha?Creighton will be ready.

    I'd be careful with Michigan, that line looks short. Then again I've been cold, so I could easily be wrong on both these games.

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    Nova defense vs the 3-ball is critical for them to win. Their defense will really have to step up in this game.

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    Love Michigan ML and SMU -7 tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Am I the only one that doesn't think Nova is that good? I'm probably going to back Creighton here. Creighton joined the big east to play games like these. This will probably be the biggest home game for them in years. When was the last time a top 10 team came to Omaha?Creighton will be ready.

    I'd be careful with Michigan, that line looks short. Then again I've been cold, so I could easily be wrong on both these games.
    I'd be more apt to back Wisconsin than Villanova. I like the Badgers and Siena the most.

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    I think nova gets revenge they're in better form than Creighton right now imo

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    As a Creighton homer. They have struggled the last 4 games. The loss McDermott didn't get the ball the 8 minutes. On the fence in this one. Wragge has been cold. Nova may lay off on him for that fact. But he was lights out last time. I'm backing McDermott here. But it's hard to beat the same team twice. JM0

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    I can't bet against smu right now no coin. They look extremely good as of late.

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    Nova has been waiting for this rematch for a while after getting embarrassed earlier this year in Philly by the jays. Love nova getting 3.5 and the moneyline. Michigan line looks short but then again Vegas has been giving away money to the public this year. Temple is auto fade at this point for me

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    The only way I would bet those two games would be on Creighton -3.

    Everything else looks rough.

    The main angle would be that Nova has to come down. I know not to bet against Beiline and his program, the player development at Michigan is very real from everything I have read/seen and Wisconsin is definitely not as talented as Michigan.

    Side question: Why is Michigan only playing Ohio State once this year? (assuming they don't play in the B-10 tournament)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inkwell77 View Post
    The only way I would bet those two games would be on Creighton -3.

    Everything else looks rough.

    The main angle would be that Nova has to come down. I know not to bet against Beiline and his program, the player development at Michigan is very real from everything I have read/seen and Wisconsin is definitely not as talented as Michigan.

    Side question: Why is Michigan only playing Ohio State once this year? (assuming they don't play in the B-10 tournament)
    Just how the big ten is. Some years you play different teams twice. Too many teams to play everyone twice

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    Quote Originally Posted by KRIT View Post
    Am I the only one that doesn't think Nova is that good? I'm probably going to back Creighton here. Creighton joined the big east to play games like these. This will probably be the biggest home game for them in years. When was the last time a top 10 team came to Omaha?Creighton will be ready.

    I'd be careful with Michigan, that line looks short. Then again I've been cold, so I could easily be wrong on both these games.
    i honestly couldnt tell you if im sold on nova or not, what i will say is jays are a bit overrated imo and it mostly stems from the fact they had the adv of no one in this conf ever playing against their sets and they kinda took everyone by storm but i believe it a bit of a mirage. ive faded them the last 2 and will prob continue to do so till the end of the reg season now that everyone has seen them once, just look at their 3 point percentage fall off the last 3 games all of which were the rematches, i think you will see this continue the next 2 weeks as teams now understand what they up against and priority number 1 is to run them off the 3 point line at all cost and force them to beat you off the bounce, outside of mcdermott no one has even attempted 70 fts or more than 100 shots inside the arc,, dont get me wrong their offense is good they will get some easy buckets off teams doing this and it does help them that Gibbs hasnt been seen by many teams but dont get it twisted, these guys live by the trey and i think it pretty safe to say there no damn way nova is gonna let them go freaking 21-35 from behind the arc, nova has enough length and athletes to force jays to try and bring it into the big man and their 13th ranked 2 point percentage defense.. not a easy task but seeing how every team playing jays the second time has reduced their 3 point efficiency by a wide margin from the 1st meeting i expect a very good nova team to be able to do the same... then there the issue of what nova scored the 1st gm, i dont think im going out on any kind of limb in saying there no way jays keep them out of the 70s again. cats got caught slipping and it was basically over before it got started, dont expect that again and expect way more of nova attacking the basket aggressively as they did the next several games after that ass kicking creighton gave them. i think they flip the script here and get jays back in their building..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shopbar picks View Post
    As a Creighton homer. They have struggled the last 4 games. The loss McDermott didn't get the ball the 8 minutes. On the fence in this one. Wragge has been cold. Nova may lay off on him for that fact. But he was lights out last time. I'm backing McDermott here. But it's hard to beat the same team twice. JM0
    i think it gonna take a lot for them to split the last 6 games,, look at how significantly depaul and johnies cut jays 3 point percentage down, then butler holds them to 20 less points and was really close to having them beat...dont get me wrong jays a really good team but they had huge adv coming into this conf with a bunch of teams that honestly didnt realize what they were dealing with, this second time through is gonna be extremely tough as teams sell out to take away the 3 and force jays to beat them with the bounce, sure their offense is good enough that they will get some easy buckets out of this but enough to compensate for the drop off in 3 point efficiency? outside Dougie fresh not one jay has attempted more than 70 fts or 100 shots inside the arc..the one thing they have going for them is that the majority of the league hasnt saw gibbs yet and he is a stat sheet filling difference maker imo, but he gonna have to be cause the sledding bout to get really rough..

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    Love Wisconsin at +4. They might even win this straight up.

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    I'm on Wisconsin +4.5, revenge and possible outright

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    Another revenge game is Minnesota at Northwestern. Minnesota lost in their first meeting and as of now is 5-7 in B1G, needs to go 8-10 with a win in the conf tourney to get in the dance. They still have to play Iowa, Michigan, and OSU, so they cannot afford to lose to NW here.Looks to me like this might be a good spot to play Minnesota. Anybody have thoughts on this one?

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    SMU is definitely a play today. They are hot and the eye-ball test on Temple reveals one of the lamest, lifeless squads out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the fatts View Post
    SMU is definitely a play today. They are hot and the eye-ball test on Temple reveals one of the lamest, lifeless squads out there...
    what they trying to pass off as defense is beyond embarrassing, teams get whatever they want against them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by THam12 View Post
    Just how the big ten is. Some years you play different teams twice. Too many teams to play everyone twice
    And it gets worse next year with Maryland joining.

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    Thoughts on Oregon in a revenge + rivalry game?
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    Just played creighton at -2.5, they're overrated but so is nova

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBBPhenom View Post
    Just played creighton at -2.5, they're overrated but so is nova
    I don't disagree that nova prob overrated, but jays gonna be lucky to go .500 these last 6 games IMO. Plus of the 2 nova the more talented squad and they the team that watched jays hold essentially a 3 point contest on their court, they should be embarrassed and ready to right that wrong today.. I played nova when they were +3.5 so maybe we can both win (cept I'm playing ml too, lol).. Should be a good gm. Gl

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    almost 90% of the public is on nova right now .. yes i know its early ...

    but if it stays from the 70% and up range almost till game time I'm most likely playing creighton here

    public burials on sunday IMO

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    No talk on Minnesota -3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    almost 90% of the public is on nova right now .. yes i know its early ...

    but if it stays from the 70% and up range almost till game time I'm most likely playing creighton here

    public burials on sunday IMO
    I've never bought, believed, or cared bout those numbers much. I find it very had to believe that your avg smo is going against creighton tho.. Hell I doubt most the avg smucks have even thought much bout this gm yet , certainly not bet it yet..

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    Quote Originally Posted by PorkChop View Post
    No talk on Minnesota -3?
    I just don't trust those assholes,, the minute I touch them they have 3 guys in foul trouble before the 1st tv timeout..

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    Quote Originally Posted by You mad bro View Post
    almost 90% of the public is on nova right now .. yes i know its early ...

    but if it stays from the 70% and up range almost till game time I'm most likely playing creighton here

    public burials on sunday IMO
    Used to have my bets live by this. Started to be a guessing game. But now I just pick and play. Cant lie, I still don't like my side to be the heavy action (which supposedly 3 of my 4 today are), especially with RLM (Nova). But it comes down to the fact that heavy public action doesn't lose 100% (or anywhere close to that for that matter) and neither do games with RLM going against you...looks like the perceived odds are stacked against me today tho...(BC ATS+ML, Nova ATS+ML, Bryant ATS+ML) St. Johns ML is my other play...GL all...

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    Leaning on just taking the Nova over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnificent View Post
    Used to have my bets live by this. Started to be a guessing game. But now I just pick and play. Cant lie, I still don't like my side to be the heavy action (which supposedly 3 of my 4 today are), especially with RLM (Nova). But it comes down to the fact that heavy public action doesn't lose 100% (or anywhere close to that for that matter) and neither do games with RLM going against you...looks like the perceived odds are stacked against me today tho...(BC ATS+ML, Nova ATS+ML, Bryant ATS+ML) St. Johns ML is my other play...GL all...
    i certainly feel better when im on the unpopular side but i dont do that for the sake of doing it, i cap the games and play what my conclusion dictates, if it happens to be the "public" side so be it...far as rlm if everyone if on nova (which i have no clue if that true) then it not rlm it moving as you would expect,, again i could really care less cause truth be told this season when i get the best of the number it losing more than winning, and wouldnt ya know i have nova+3.5 so they prob will lose, of coarse at some point that shit outta even the hell out as i cant remember a year where i dreaded line moving with me and feel better when it moves against me, lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Time is Money View Post
    Leaning on just taking the Nova over
    i think it a really sharp number honestly,, was expecting or just hoping maybe that it would open at or little higher than kenpom's as i leaned under that, i put it right around 146..

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    Im sorry, You're right. I'm buggin out. IDK why I thought the Nova game was RLM. I just glanced quickly on VI and thought that I was getting the worst of it. When you said otherwise (I was surely convinced I was right) I checked immediately and much to my satisfaction, I found out that it is moving the right way! Well, that's one less odd stacked against me today! GL...I think Nova got this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I just don't trust those assholes,, the minute I touch them they have 3 guys in foul trouble before the 1st tv timeout..
    I think this is a good spot for them (as I said in my first post). So today I got minnesota in a teaser with nova and another one with msu. And ats as well. They go down today, then I do too. GL fellas

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