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    Liberty +20½

    Liberty +20½

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    agreed sir... Texas A&M doesn't have nearly enough offense to be laying this many points. Liberty a 19 win team last season, returning 4 starters including the top PG and rebounder in their conference. All of which is plenty enough reason for me to take them.

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    my mistake... Liberty, and the Patriot League's top rebounder John Brown is actually out for the season. Still like Liberty though

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    Liberty has pretty good guards. I agree with this being a lower scoring game. Looked at the under and decided in the end to take the points.
    Good luck

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    A&M isnt the team of Old they will have an uptempo Offense this year

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    I like A&M laying the points. I'm on them 1st half -11.5. They will come out firing, Liberty will be out of their element on the road at first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddaman2 View Post
    my mistake... Liberty, and the Patriot League's top rebounder John Brown is actually out for the season. Still like Liberty though
    are going to bet on a team and you don't no what conference their in?

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    Meant Big South, but yes... fair point. Got them confused with Lehigh who is my other play today. Simple mistake.

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    A&M can't afford to play up tempo. They have jack shit athletic wise. Turgeon was the star of those teams and he's in Maryland now. I'd be surprised to see A&M finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 to be honest. Liberty has 3 starters back when you factor in the loss of Brown. I like the +20

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddaman2 View Post
    Meant Big South, but yes... fair point. Got them confused with Lehigh who is my other play today. Simple mistake.
    ahhhh ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    A&M can't afford to play up tempo. They have jack shit athletic wise. Turgeon was the star of those teams and he's in Maryland now. I'd be surprised to see A&M finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 to be honest. Liberty has 3 starters back when you factor in the loss of Brown. I like the +20
    Based off of your comment you have not done your homework...I suggest you dig a little deeper into A&M's new offensive scheme. As far as the spread I dont like it either way, Im leaning the over since the line is not adjusted for A&M's new uptempo offensive scheme
    Last edited by Pickma$ter; 11-09-11 at 09:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    A&M can't afford to play up tempo. They have jack shit athletic wise. Turgeon was the star of those teams and he's in Maryland now. I'd be surprised to see A&M finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 to be honest. Liberty has 3 starters back when you factor in the loss of Brown. I like the +20

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickma$ter View Post
    Based off of your comment you have not down your homework...I suggest you dig a little deeper into A&M's new offensive scheme. As far as the spread I dont like it either way, Im leaning the over since the line is not adjusted for A&M's new uptempo offensive scheme
    I'm not buying it. I saw enough of A&M and their slow boring grind it out style last season that i'm not going to even consider passing up a chance to get 20 points against them. Why would you take them? Because they want to go up tempo now? You think they'll be able to implement this and tonight in their first game as an "up tempo" team just be running up and the down the court all systems firing? They'll be a learning curve and acclimation process. I'll have to see it before I believe it, if I learn the hard way tonight... so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TPowell View Post
    A&M can't afford to play up tempo. They have jack shit athletic wise. Turgeon was the star of those teams and he's in Maryland now. I'd be surprised to see A&M finish in the top 4 of the Big 12 to be honest. Liberty has 3 starters back when you factor in the loss of Brown. I like the +20
    Bingo

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    I'm playing over 133.5 in this one. If I had to side I would go with +21.5

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    I absolutely love Texas A&M in this spot. First CBB bet of the year for me and look forward to starting 1-0. Game will start out close, but in the end A&M by 27-35 points

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    BTW finish 4th? They will win the Big 12

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddaman2 View Post
    I'm not buying it. I saw enough of A&M and their slow boring grind it out style last season that i'm not going to even consider passing up a chance to get 20 points against them. Why would you take them? Because they want to go up tempo now? You think they'll be able to implement this and tonight in their first game as an "up tempo" team just be running up and the down the court all systems firing? They'll be a learning curve and acclimation process. I'll have to see it before I believe it, if I learn the hard way tonight... so be it.
    Nothing to buy here as it is a fact....Texas A&M's goal is to be as up tempo as possible. They looked impressive so far early on with the new tempo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickma$ter View Post
    Nothing to buy here as it is a fact....Texas A&M's goal is to be as up tempo as possible. They looked impressive so far early on with the new tempo.
    Against who? I'm assuming you're talking about exhibitions? That doesn't impress me, nor should it impress you. I'll concede to you they probably do want to play up tempo, but it isn't as easy as just flipping a switch and all of the sudden being an up tempo team. It's a process, one that's going to have bumps in the road. I just can't see this team being a well oiled up tempo machine in their first game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddaman2 View Post
    Against who? I'm assuming you're talking about exhibitions? That doesn't impress me, nor should it impress you. I'll concede to you they probably do want to play up tempo, but it isn't as easy as just flipping a switch and all of the sudden being an up tempo team. It's a process, one that's going to have bumps in the road. I just can't see this team being a well oiled up tempo machine in their first game.
    what are you contesting the spread or o/u here?

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    I cant wait to see Nathan Walkup and Middleton playing up tempo basketball. Their basketball players, not athletes. This will be a TRAINWRECK

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    I will take liberty +28 for 5 points!

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    Sorry that was to experiencewins, bet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickma$ter View Post
    what are you contesting the spread or o/u here?
    Spread. I'm saying there's no way in hell they score enough to cover 20 points... and so far in 4 minutes they've scored 1 point. Until I see otherwise i'm going to continue to operate under the assumption this team is very offensively challenged.

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    Glad i took TAMU 16pt lead over 5 to go 1st half

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    their defense might be good enough though haha

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    All the Haters

    and to the guy who said Nathan Walkup you my sir did no HW Walkup graduated last year

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    I can admit when i'm wrong... have no problem doing that. Texas A&M does appear to be more run and gun. Tip of the cap to those who cashed.

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    Ill take that as a lucky one I got away with.

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    Tough one there.

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    how the **** did Liberty foul???? Was A&M actually trying to score with less than 25 seconds left?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daviddaman2 View Post
    I can admit when i'm wrong... have no problem doing that. Texas A&M does appear to be more run and gun. Tip of the cap to those who cashed.
    Very respectful comments as we are all here to help each other win $

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