1. #71
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    Play #4 Twolves +1450 (.5x)

    This will be my first loss.

  2. #72
    bluegg
    bluegg's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-28-09
    Posts: 308
    Betpoints: 36

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Play #4 Twolves +1450 (.5x)

    This will be my first loss.
    I want my first ML loss too but its not on my bookie line

  3. #73
    TGHMak
    Update your status
    TGHMak's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-24-09
    Posts: 658
    Betpoints: 114

    I like Wash at 480+

  4. #74
    TGoat
    TGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-07-09
    Posts: 612

    Laying big wood on huge favorites is kind of like selling deep out of the money naked options. It's basically free money lying on floor waiting to be picked up.

    You can go months and months without a loss and then one day things go against you and you can lose your house. (This happened to a friend of mine.)

    It's easy as pie until you lose a couple, and then you have to win a whole bunch just to get back to where you were.

    It's also similar to playing even money shots at the horses. You're much better off playing 7-1 shots. Hitting one 7-1 shot is the equivalent of winning seven even money plays--and easier to do.

    It can be done, and good luck to all who take a shot at it, but I'll tell you one thing I know for a fact...big upsets happen, and the books love these kinds of bets.
    Last edited by TGoat; 03-04-10 at 01:27 AM.

  5. #75
    Jrod124
    Update your status
    Jrod124's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-31-09
    Posts: 5,622
    Betpoints: 535

    -300 or -600 are solid to parlay in the NBA I think

  6. #76
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    Quote Originally Posted by TGoat View Post
    Laying big wood on huge favorites is kind of like selling deep out of the money naked options. It's basically free money lying on floor waiting to be picked up.

    You can go months and months without a loss and then one day things go against you and you can lose your house. (This happened to a friend of mine.)

    It's easy as pie until you lose a couple, and then you have to win a whole bunch just to get back to where you were.

    It's also similar to playing even money shots at the horses. You're much better off playing 7-1 shots. Hitting one 7-1 shot is the equivalent of winning seven even money plays--and easier to do.

    It can be done, and good luck to all who take a shot at it, but I'll tell you one thing I know for a fact...but upsets happen, and the books love these kinds of bets.
    Months and months without a loss and then one day you lose your house?? We aren't betting on -$300,000's here lol

    People keep posting reasoning why betting on huuuuge favorites is a bad idea. And I totally agree- not worth the risk. But make smart ML bets/parlays in the -200 to -800 range and you can be successful. Check my earlier post on the parlay... Hawks stomped, Cavs won easy, Nuggets up by 13... You can reason all you want but the proof is on here. Lakerboy has already won money on here check the stats

  7. #77
    MUHerd37
    Status Your Update.
    MUHerd37's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-09
    Posts: 12,816
    Betpoints: 10678

    Taking the Minnesota ML was the best. Mavs always screwing around and finding ways to lose against teams they should dominate. At least that's what it seems like when I bet on them.

  8. #78
    branch0095
    branch0095's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-03-09
    Posts: 247
    Betpoints: 55

    I agree laying -1000 plus juice can come back to bite you in the ass, but I have been guilty of doing it before myself. Trying to make up on a bad night with the best chance I could get. I luckily havent got bit, but ive also only done it 2 or 3 times. Now what I do do a little more often is parlaying these -1000 + odds til u can get your overall price down in the -150 -250 range. Yes you may lose more, but I think not losing 10x on a bet is a little easier to handle, and in turn can keep less expiereinced players out of trouble. Because like youve said, upsets happen. Thats why they play the game.

  9. #79
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    3-1 so far +3.5 units

    Almost had that twolves one
    Points Awarded:

    PAYTON20 gave lakerboy 5 SBR Point(s) for this post.


  10. #80
    HoulihansTX
    Bowl $ea$on
    HoulihansTX's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-11-09
    Posts: 30,566
    Betpoints: 295

    Cant you play ML's by the Half, LB? Pinny?

    I would be all over Clipps ML 2ndH

  11. #81
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Cant you play ML's by the Half, LB? Pinny?

    I would be all over Clipps ML 2ndH

    Yes i can but i am treading very slowly with this project. Only spot plays here and there.

  12. #82
    williams22
    williams22's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-19-08
    Posts: 6,134

    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Cant you play ML's by the Half, LB? Pinny?

    I would be all over Clipps ML 2ndH
    I know 5Dimes has it. Clips were +155 last I looked.

  13. #83
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    the clippers!!??

  14. #84
    onlooker
    I'm still watching...
    onlooker's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 08-10-05
    Posts: 36,572
    Betpoints: 4663

    Quote Originally Posted by vyomguy View Post
    Picking your spots on underdog moneylines can be profitable over the course of a season.

  15. #85
    Wilforth
    Update your status
    Wilforth's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-10-08
    Posts: 16,309

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    3-1 so far +3.5 units

    Almost had that twolves one
    Almost got the T'Wolves. The likelihood of the Wolves going 2-0 SU in Dallas was always in doubt though.

  16. #86
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    Quote Originally Posted by HoulihansTX View Post
    Cant you play ML's by the Half, LB? Pinny?

    I would be all over Clipps ML 2ndH
    s'all good you were only off by 30....

  17. #87
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    Proof to all the people who doubt that betting money lines is profitable. This is my ticket summary from yesterday 3/2:

    5) BET ID=310208051
    Straight Wager03/02/10 23:42 ETbet 70.12 to win 63.75 (paid 133.87) Result: Wager Won2Pacers(Indiana) 2ndHalf 45
    2Lakers(LA) 2ndHalf 62 03/03/10(00:40 ET)
    2Lakers(LA) -5.5

    6) BET ID=310165820 Parlay (4 Teams)03/02/10 16:44 ETbet 58.41 to win 111.71 (paid 170.12) Result: Wager WonIllChicago 67
    WisconsinMilw 73 03/02/10(20:00 ET)
    WisconsinMilw -750 Illinois 57
    OhioSt 73 03/02/10(21:10 ET)
    OhioSt -600 Tulane 57
    SMississippi 66 03/02/10(20:00 ET)
    SMississippi -650 Villanova 77
    Cincinnati 73 03/02/10(19:05 ET)
    Villanova -3.5


    7) BET ID=310152250 Parlay (3 Teams)03/02/10 12:58 ETbet 291.59 to win 150.00 (paid 441.59) Result: Wager WonKings(Sacramento) 107
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) 113 03/02/10(20:15 ET)
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) -650 Pacers(Indiana) 99
    Lakers(LA) 122 03/02/10(22:45 ET)
    Lakers(LA) -800 Illinois 57
    OhioSt 73 03/02/10(21:10 ET)
    OhioSt -600

  18. #88
    $Burm$
    $Burm$'s Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-03-09
    Posts: 3,019

    Quote Originally Posted by PAYTON20 View Post
    Proof to all the people who doubt that betting money lines is profitable. This is my ticket summary from yesterday 3/2:

    5) BET ID=310208051
    Straight Wager03/02/10 23:42 ETbet 70.12 to win 63.75 (paid 133.87) Result: Wager Won2Pacers(Indiana) 2ndHalf 45
    2Lakers(LA) 2ndHalf 62 03/03/10(00:40 ET)
    2Lakers(LA) -5.5

    6) BET ID=310165820 Parlay (4 Teams)03/02/10 16:44 ETbet 58.41 to win 111.71 (paid 170.12) Result: Wager WonIllChicago 67
    WisconsinMilw 73 03/02/10(20:00 ET)
    WisconsinMilw -750 Illinois 57
    OhioSt 73 03/02/10(21:10 ET)
    OhioSt -600 Tulane 57
    SMississippi 66 03/02/10(20:00 ET)
    SMississippi -650 Villanova 77
    Cincinnati 73 03/02/10(19:05 ET)
    Villanova -3.5


    7) BET ID=310152250 Parlay (3 Teams)03/02/10 12:58 ETbet 291.59 to win 150.00 (paid 441.59) Result: Wager WonKings(Sacramento) 107
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) 113 03/02/10(20:15 ET)
    Thunder(OklahomaCity) -650 Pacers(Indiana) 99
    Lakers(LA) 122 03/02/10(22:45 ET)
    Lakers(LA) -800 Illinois 57
    OhioSt 73 03/02/10(21:10 ET)
    OhioSt -600
    I do believe that if you know and understand how to pick the right spots to bet ML it can be very profitable, but you have to be able to show this overtime...just one night of making $ by betting ML's does not prove anything because the difficult part about it is to not bet into the game when the well favored team such as the celtics at home against the nets lose..Obviously u know this, but im just saying that wat u show will not change the mind of anyone who does not belive you can b profitable in the long haul when betting just ML's

  19. #89
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    And then again my ticket from today/tonight. Hope you took my advice on the parlay- it was a good one!

    1) BET ID=310242606 Parlay (3 Teams)03/03/10 16:27 ETbet 55.53 to win 95.64 (paid 151.17) Result: Wager Won76ers(Philadelphia) 93
    Hawks(Atlanta) 112 03/03/10(19:10 ET)
    Hawks(Atlanta) -450 Cavaliers(Cleveland) 111
    Nets(NewJersey) 92 03/03/10(19:40 ET)
    Cavaliers(Cleveland) -600 Suns(Phoenix) 127
    Clippers(LA) 101 03/03/10(22:50 ET)
    Suns(Phoenix) -4

    2) BET ID=310232836 Parlay (4 Teams)03/03/10 14:20 ETbet 144.47 to win 200.00 (paid 344.47) Result: Wager Won76ers(Philadelphia) 93
    Hawks(Atlanta) 112 03/03/10(19:10 ET)
    Hawks(Atlanta) -400 Cavaliers(Cleveland) 111
    Nets(NewJersey) 92 03/03/10(19:40 ET)
    Cavaliers(Cleveland) -550 Pacers(Indiana) 79
    Blazers(Portland) 102 03/03/10(22:10 ET)
    Blazers(Portland) -475 Thunder(OklahomaCity) 90
    Nuggets(Denver) 119 03/03/10(21:10 ET)
    Nuggets(Denver) -300


    3) BET ID=310211703 Straight Wager03/03/10 01:36 ETbet 300.00 to win 214.29 (paid 514.29) Result: Wager WonSuns(Phoenix) 127
    Clippers(LA) 101 03/03/10(22:50 ET)
    Suns(Phoenix) -2 (-140) Bought 1.5 point(s)


    4) BET ID=310210910 Straight Wager03/03/10 01:00 ETbet 175.46 to win 125.33 (paid 300.79) Result: Wager WonSuns(Phoenix) 127
    Clippers(LA) 101 03/03/10(22:50 ET)
    Suns(Phoenix) -2 (-140) Bought 1.5 point(s)
    Combined for 3/2 and 3/3:

    7-0, + 9.6 Units

  20. #90
    thechaoz
    2019 SBRs Toughest Poster
    thechaoz's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-23-09
    Posts: 12,155
    Betpoints: 35902

    Very nice payton

  21. #91
    TGoat
    TGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-07-09
    Posts: 612

    As soon as one of you guys loses a -1000 or -800 moneyline favorite you'll be singing the blues. Now you have to win 8 or 10 in a row to make up for it, or it will wipe out a lot of previous profit.

    Like I said, it's free money until things go wrong.

    Tread lightly.

    No of course you can't lose your house doing this, but you can take a very big hit.

    There is no doubt in my mind LB can grind out a profit doing this over time. But it's not for everybody.

    About 10-12 years ago I laid $2200 to win $400 that the Trailblazers would win their first round playoff series.

    It came down to the last shot in the last game, and I was sweating bullets. I thought this was a dead mortal lock and I barely escaped.

    I said never again, and I meant it.

  22. #92
    TGoat
    TGoat's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-07-09
    Posts: 612

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Play #4 Twolves +1450 (.5x)

    This will be my first loss.
    Now THIS is a good bet!

  23. #93
    onlooker
    I'm still watching...
    onlooker's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 08-10-05
    Posts: 36,572
    Betpoints: 4663

    Yep, a weeks of hard grinding can be washed away by one loss.

    Good luck with it though.

  24. #94
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    Play # 5 - Parlay

    Lakers ml-160
    Magic ml -700
    Cavs ml -1200
    Hawks ml-2000
    Denver ml -800
    Raps ml-290
    Okc ml-210
    Spurs ml-370

    1/2 unit to win 2.5 units


    Play # 6

    Lakers ml -165 to win 2 units
    Points Awarded:

    PAYTON20 gave lakerboy 10 SBR Point(s) for this post.


  25. #95
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    [quote=lakerboy;3443829]Play # 5 - Parlay

    Lakers ml-160
    Magic ml -700
    Cavs ml -1200
    Hawks ml-2000
    Denver ml -800
    Raps ml-290
    Okc ml-210
    Spurs ml-370

    1/2 unit to win 2.5 units

    Loving these ML parlays LB. Glad to see you're on the same page as me for my ML parlay picks. That's a great bet right there!!

  26. #96
    Sportslover
    Sportslover's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 06-04-09
    Posts: 860
    Betpoints: 320

    That parlay looks pretty good, Lakerboy. However, the Cavs have started pretty slowly today and the Pistons were shooting quite well in the 1Q. Hopefully the Cavs can turn things around but they really need to pick up their defense and stop turning the ball over so cheaply, if they are to get themselves the win today.

  27. #97
    Gopi-1
    NBA 2009-2010 -- 1-0-0
    Gopi-1's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-27-10
    Posts: 952
    Betpoints: 368

    I took Spurs ML at -400, 2-0 so far and up 2 units. Good project you got going here LB, so far!

  28. #98
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    Quote Originally Posted by Gopi-1 View Post
    I took Spurs ML at -400, 2-0 so far and up 2 units. Good project you got going here LB, so far!
    Nice Gopi. Seem to agree with you a lot. Got Spurs in my ML parlay tonight with Magic and Nuggets!

    Hey Lakerboy, did I read somewhere that you enjoy drinking vodka?
    Gettin started on my first glass of Belvedere right now..
    to the Cavs picking it up and making a comeback here!

  29. #99
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    Quote Originally Posted by PAYTON20 View Post
    Nice Gopi. Seem to agree with you a lot. Got Spurs in my ML parlay tonight with Magic and Nuggets!

    Hey Lakerboy, did I read somewhere that you enjoy drinking vodka?
    Gettin started on my first glass of Belvedere right now..
    to the Cavs picking it up and making a comeback here!

    Yes i like Grey Goose .

  30. #100
    tealish
    tealish's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 3,386

    Nice, I like the ML parlay strategy as well. Far less risk than laying -1200 on straight bets on heavy favs, as you can see with the Cavs right now..things like that can ruin you. Parlays, not so much.

  31. #101
    PAYTON20
    PAYTON20's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-02-10
    Posts: 5,217
    Betpoints: 770

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Yes i like Grey Goose .
    Yayyya get loose haha. I love the Grey Goose too but this Belvedere gift pack was on sale! Right on cue with that for the Cavs run... but another lousy effort by the Lake show

    Got any leans on the OKC -5 or think the OKC ML has value?

  32. #102
    pyro
    pyro's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 12-06-09
    Posts: 100
    Betpoints: 499

    I'm taking OKC ML tonight, Good Luck

  33. #103
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    I think OKC moneyline has value but no more moneylines for me tonight. Lakers ruined everything.

  34. #104
    lakerboy
    lakerboy's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 04-02-09
    Posts: 94,074
    Betpoints: 7726

    3-3 so far and -.3 units. I can lay -2000 on teams like atlanta tonihgt but im not gonna do that shit. It has to be done the right way.

  35. #105
    Gopi-1
    NBA 2009-2010 -- 1-0-0
    Gopi-1's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 01-27-10
    Posts: 952
    Betpoints: 368

    Quote Originally Posted by Gopi-1 View Post
    I took Spurs ML at -400, 2-0 so far and up 2 units. Good project you got going here LB, so far!



    3-0 so far, and up 3 units. I know this kind of play can bite me in the ass one of these days, but if I can keep my head straight and pick smartly, I can go on a 50-0 streak before this shit bites back. I usually stay in the range of -300 to -600 for the ML favorites, but if I see a live dog out there, I won't hesitate to pull the trigger as well...

First 1234 Last
Top