[ikid2groove415]

Guys really believe Cavs Gm had anything to do with giving love the 4 year contract extension? I Said it before it’s Dan Gilbert

[convick]

Didn’t cavs draft lebron number 1 ? And kyrie number 1? Tanking doesn’t work ?

Kyrie #1 pick was from LA Clippers, trade for Baron Davis. It had a 3% chance to turn into 1st pick.

"The 2011 first round pick acquired from the Los Angeles Clippers is unprotected, meaning the Cavaliers own the pick in the upcoming draft no matter what selection it is."

[Ratpack]

they also drafted dion waters at 3 and anthony bennett at 1 and wiggins at 1 all 3 have been really bad

[ikid2groove415]

they also drafted dion waters at 3 and anthony bennett at 1 and wiggins at 1 all 3 have been really bad

Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad

[Ratpack]

hes TERRIBLE cant shoot the 3 is a HORRIBLE defensive player and doesnt show any effort on the court.

[ikid2groove415]

hes TERRIBLE cant shoot the 3 is a HORRIBLE defensive player and doesnt show any effort on the court.

He can create his own shot 17.7 points FG% 43.8- Not saying he’s great but definitely not bad

[Ratpack]

not number 1 pick worthy

[ikid2groove415]

not number 1 pick worthy

Who should go number 1 in the 2014 draft class? Besides Joel that’s always hurt

[jtoler]

Idiots look at love numbers and think he’s good? Lollollol - sit down and auctually watch the guy play ? Zero defense -spot up shooter with decent numbers on rebounds -
He can not create his own shot

He can create his own shot 17.7 points FG% 43.8- Not saying he’s great but definitely not bad

which is it

[ikid2groove415]

which is it

I’m talking about Wiggins -

[Ratpack]

gordon and saric are better overall players they shouldnt have been drafted 1 by the cavs but they have had better careers than wiggins they should of traded him for derozon

[ikid2groove415]

gordon and saric are better overall players they shouldnt have been drafted 1 by the cavs but they have had better careers than wiggins they should of traded him for derozon

He avg 23.6 points in 2016 with FG% 45..2 in 2016 before butler came - he can score fella - still very young

[packerd_00]

Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad

Not as good as they made him out to be though.

[upscope]

Wait....So it's Ok to use stats before Butler came along to argue that Wiggins is actually a good player that can score. But when people point out K. Love's far superior stats before LeBron came along.......Well, they are idiots that just look at stats & they need to watch a game

Wiggins is a grotesquely overpaid #3 option who thinks he should be the #1 option. Is a crybaby with zero heart or desire, not a team player, plays no defense, shoots too much, turns the ball over too much, not a particularly good ft shooter & quickly becoming a team cancer that has come nowhere near living UP to #1 overall selection.

Hypocrisy @ it's finest.....

[jtoler]

Butler is a grotesquely overpaid #3 option who thinks he should be the #1 option. Is a crybaby with zero heart or desire, not a team player, plays no defense, shoots too much, turns the ball over too much, not a particularly good ft shooter & quickly becoming a team cancer that has come nowhere near living UP to #1 overall selection.

?..

[Hman]

Wiggins is above average - he’s not bad

Not as good as they made him out to be though.

Not even close.

Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable

[ikid2groove415]

Not even close.

Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable

He’s only 23-

[ikid2groove415]

Not even close.

Comparisons to T-Mac have turned out to be laughable

Wiggins got better numbers then t-Mac first 4 years - yet it’s laughable?

[Hman]

Wiggins got better numbers then t-Mac first 4 years - yet it’s laughable?

McGrady's first 2 years are a wash.

Wiggins is good but it will be surprising if he can reach T-Mac's level.

T-Mac led the NBA in scoring 2 years.

I remember vividly because he did it in Orlando & I'm a Magic fan.

I'll lay anything that Wiggins will never come close to that.

Also don't look at just the points.

Tracy is a much better all-around player across the board (Assists, Rebounds, Steals)

[ikid2groove415]

McGrady's first 2 years are a wash.

Wiggins is good but it will be surprising if he can reach T-Mac's level.

T-Mac led the NBA in scoring 2 years.

I remember vividly because he did it in Orlando & I'm a Magic fan.

I'll lay anything that Wiggins will never come close to that.

Also don't look at just the points.

Tracy is a much better all-around player across the board (Assists, Rebounds, Steals)

T-Mac was a lethal scorer -

[upscope]

?..

Wiggins

[jjgold]

Love will be an all star this year

[d2bets]

Love will be an all star this year

Maybe. He was an all-star on shitty Minnesota teams.

But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?

[Hman]

Maybe. He was an all-star on shitty Minnesota teams.

But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?

Cleveland is in the same position as the majority of teams in the league.

There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.

The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.

There's only a few SuperStars/Stars to go around & make your team a contender.



The rest of the teams have to settle for the same 'ol year after year & simply hope they are lucky enough to hit that one special lottery every 10-15 years when that rare player comes along, or that somehow & for some reason one of those elite players decide they want pick up & move, to a place like La, for example.

Odds are against any of that happening, therefore you don't just let your best players walk or get away, don't you agree d2?

[Grits n' Gravy]

Love will be an all star this year

in the wnba it is possible....nba, going to be tough for him unless fans vote him in as a token.

[Grits n' Gravy]

But what is Cleveland's plan post-Lebron?

Be the same shitty team they have always been without LeBron. Except now there is no glimmer of hope of him ever returning.

[ikid2groove415]

Cleveland seems to always land the number 1 pick when Lebron is gone - Kyrie was the only homerun

[upscope]

Be the same shitty team they have always been without LeBron. Except now there is no glimmer of hope of him ever returning.

He'll return again.....to sign a 1-day contract to retire a Cav

[ikid2groove415]

People still think this was the right move?

[ans61201]

Of course it was. His money free on the books isn’t going to land you another player. Nobody is signing up to go to Cleveland willingly. Small markets have to. My blazers overpaid guys like cj, but we’re not a destination. It’s how the nba works. They were over the cap with our without that move, and not going to get a replacement player. IF they can flip him for anything of value long term, which I believe is the plan, of course it is when you’re the cleveland Cavs without Lebron

[Grits n' Gravy]

Cleveland back to being worst team in NBA again. Big shock.