Originally Posted by
astro61200
No, I use stats from 78-79 to 89-90.. I'm not pulling 1 year's worth of stats. I'm using a broad sample size that covers what you referred to (the 80's) compared to today (96-now, since you lumped Jordan/Pippen in with now)
The more FT's from then point to the fact that most people, and I'm assuming you too since you give nothing to back up any statement, think fouls are far too easy to come by now then they were back then. Yet the statistics show there were more fouls committed then. This stat doesn't prove anything for your point at all.
You claim that there are ball hogs everywhere, yet the assists to FGM ratio is pretty much identical in the 80's to today, so this disproves your theory as more ball hogs would mean far less assists (because, ya know, you have to pass it and all for assists).
You claim that poor shooting isn't caused by defense but by just poor play. There are stats that disprove this, but seeing as the most basic of stats I provided just go WAY over your head then providing those are a lost cause (plus detailed stats like that weren't kept back then so it's tougher to compare)
The fact that you say they don't run an offense, just "get the ball to the hogs" is, again, disproven by the assist to FGM ratio.
You can go on and on, and I'll gladly prove you wrong each time, if you'd like. The stats don't lie, and seeing as how I have, literally, disproven certain statements of yours with FACTS (such as you claiming offensive rebounds are easier to come by now then they were back then, but the statistics prove the complete opposite) then it really shows me that I'm not the one who doesn't "know how to read stats."
The stats completely disprove nearly everything you've said. The only reason they don't completely disprove EVERYTHING you said is because some things are subjective (such as the effect of European players) or they just didn't keep as detailed stats back then (such as type of shots, range of shots, and contested shots).
I can't speak for everyone, but I feel very confident that if someone went through and read the entire thread they wouldn't believe I'm the "ignorant" one that makes statistics "dangerous".
You have an opinion and you're entitled to it, even though you're about as wrong as wrong can be and I've proven this, but it's obvious you aren't going to change your mind in the face of facts that disprove your thinking.