1. #246
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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    sup kev, great work!

    do you mind updating the record for every V?
    See Post #248. I do it every week. Please read the thread..
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  2. #247
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    Morrison 12/6 Results & 12/7 Plays

    12/6 Results
    (Covers.com)
    Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped- Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    7.35pm #43 V3 Philadelphia: A Bet filtered out - MEP injured
    10.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/7

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.35pm #43 V3 Philadelphia: A Bet won 1 unit
    10.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/7
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    12/7 Plays
    (All times EST)

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet to win 1 unit Lost SU in conference on 12/5 (qualified for V1)
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit MEP possibly injured. Bettor to check before tip-off
    9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
    6.05pm #37 V2 Oklahoma City: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
    6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet to win 1 unit Lost heavily ATS in conference on 12/5 (qualified for V1)
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet to win 1 unit
    9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
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    Upcoming Plays (12/8)

    Currently Published Morrison System:
    Scheduled:
    None
    Possible:
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount

    Morrison 1-7-5 System:
    Scheduled:
    None
    Possible:
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
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    Results to Date (11/1 - 12/6)
    Completed Series

    Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +31.00 units

    Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +110.00 units

    Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

    * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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  3. #248
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    Morrison Results & Profit/Loss Statement to Date: 11/1 - 12/6

    Currently Published Morrison System:
    3 point buy all bets @ odds -185/1.54

    V1
    Series scheduled: 19
    Series filtered out: 4 (#1, #26: won preceding road game in conference; #13, #14: worst road teams)
    Series completed: 14 (#41 in progress)
    Series stopped: 0
    Completed series results:
    A Bets: 10-4
    B Bets: 4-0
    C Bets: 0-0
    Unit P/L:
    14 series won = +14.00 (14 ATS, 0 PB)
    0 series stopped = -00.00
    0 series lost = -00.00
    V1 Total P/L = +14.00 units

    V2
    Series scheduled: 9
    Series filtered out: 2 (#9: worst road team; #31: MEP injured)
    Series completed: 6 (#42 in progress)
    Series stopped: 0
    Completed series results:
    A Bets: 3-3
    B Bets: 3-0
    C Bets: 0-0
    Unit P/L:
    6 series won = +6.00 (4 ATS, 1 ML - would have won series ATS, 1 PB[poss])
    0 series stopped = -00.00
    0 series lost = -00.00
    V2 Total P/L = +6.00 units

    V3
    Series scheduled: 15
    Series filtered out: 3 (#19: worst road team; #40 & #43 MEP injured )
    Series completed: 11 (#39 in progress)
    Series stopped: 0
    Completed series results:
    A Bets: 8-3
    B Bets: 3-0
    C Bets: 0-0
    Unit P/L:
    11 series won = +11.00 (10 ATS, 1 PB - would have won series ATS)
    0 series stopped = -00.00
    0 series lost = -00.00
    V3 Total P/L = +11.00 units

    All Versions Summary
    Series scheduled: 43
    Series filtered out: 9 (see above)
    Series complete: 31 (3 series in progress)
    Series stopped: 0
    Completed series results:
    A Bets: 21-10
    B Bets: 10-0
    C Bets: 0-0
    Unit P/L:
    31 series won = +31.00 (28 ATS, 1 ML- would have won series ATS, 2 PB[poss] - would have won 1 series ATS)
    0 stopped = -00.00
    0 series lost = -00.00

    Currently Published Morrison System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 12/6: +31.00 units
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    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    All bets ATS @ odds -110/1.91

    Series scheduled: 43
    Series filtered out: 3 (#1, #26, #36: Didn't heavily lose previous in-conf game)
    Series completed: 36 (#37, #39, #41 & #42 in progress)
    Completed series results:
    A: 23-13. 23 series won @ 1 unit = +23.00 units
    B: 11-2. 11 series won @ 7 units = +77.00 units
    C: 2-0. 2 series won @ 5 units = +10.00 units; 0 series lost @ -26.52 units = -00.00 units. C Bet sub total = +10.00 units
    Unit P/L:
    A Bets: + 23.00
    B Bets: + 77.00
    C Bets: + 10.00
    Morrison 1-7-5 System Total P/L so far, for the period 11/1 to 11/29: +110.00 units
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    The next comprehensive Morrison statement for the season so far will be posted on Sun 12/14
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  4. #249
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    Wallco,
    Was curious when you backtested JM's system a year or so ago if you ever broke it down to the win percentages of the A, B and C bets? If so, would you be willing to share? I am basically wanting to know if it would be profitable to just bet the B and C bets of JM 1-7-5 at 5 to 10% of your bankroll, similar to what is being done in Grinder's thread.

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2014-15 System to Date: 17-0 (fin. series)
    Systemprofit/loss: +17.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

    (12/7/14):
    #16 Detroit (+10) (C) - Win
    #18 Miami (+8) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 9-9
    (B) 3-5

    (C) 3-2
    (D) 2-0
    Losses: None



    There are no system plays for (12/8/14):
    #18 Resumes (B) on 12/9/14



    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    Wallco,
    Was curious when you backtested JM's system a year or so ago if you ever broke it down to the win percentages of the A, B and C bets? If so, would you be willing to share? I am basically wanting to know if it would be profitable to just bet the B and C bets of JM 1-7-5 at 5 to 10% of your bankroll, similar to what is being done in Grinder's thread.
    Playing the (A) bets is the most profitable.
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  7. #252
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    Morrison 12/7 Results & 12/8 Plays

    12/7 Results
    (Covers.com)
    Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/8
    6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/9
    6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet (MEP played) won 1 unit (PB)
    9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    3.35pm #41 V1 Denver: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/8
    6.05pm #37 V2 Oklahoma City: C Bet lost 26.52 units
    6.05pm #42 V2 Miami: B Bet lost. C Bet 12/9
    6.05pm #44 V1 Miami: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/9
    9.35pm #39 V3 New Orleans: C Bet won 5 units
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    12/8 Plays
    (All times EST)

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
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    Upcoming Plays (12/9)

    Currently Published Morrison System:
    Scheduled:
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team
    Possible:
    None

    Morrison 1-7-5 System:
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet to win 1 unit
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    Possible:
    None
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    Results to Date (11/1 - 12/7)
    Completed Series

    Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +33.00 units

    Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +88.48 units

    Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

    * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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  8. #253
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    den should win or it would cause alot having bet c lose in a row

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Playing the (A) bets is the most profitable.
    Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?
    Because that is how you get back your money, when those A bets lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAnthony View Post
    Because that is how you get back your money, when those A bets lose.
    If you just wanted to get your money back the chase would not be weighted as such. The weighting to me implies that the (B) and (C) bets win at a higher percentage. I understand why we weight the (A) bets so minimally (minimizes the size of the potential chase thereafter) but if the (A) bets are winning at a high percentage 60%+ then maybe looking into straight betting the (A) bets at say 5 to 10% of your BR then chasing ONLY the (B) and (C) would also be profitable and less risky? (might also be less rewarding)

    None of these questions can be answered without historical win% which is why I asked wallco in the first place. If he is unwilling to share, that's fine, just trying to build on and possibly improve the masterpiece that you all have already created. No harm intended

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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    If you just wanted to get your money back the chase would not be weighted as such. The weighting to me implies that the (B) and (C) bets win at a higher percentage. I understand why we weight the (A) bets so minimally (minimizes the size of the potential chase thereafter) but if the (A) bets are winning at a high percentage 60%+ then maybe looking into straight betting the (A) bets at say 5 to 10% of your BR then chasing ONLY the (B) and (C) would also be profitable and less risky? (might also be less rewarding)

    None of these questions can be answered without historical win% which is why I asked wallco in the first place. If he is unwilling to share, that's fine, just trying to build on and possibly improve the masterpiece that you all have already created. No harm intended
    You know that that 1-7-5 system is only one variation of the main system? And it's sole purpose is to get higher return, not to be conservative. Play the other two, if you have doubts about 1-7-5.

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    And Wallco actually never said that (A) bets hit at higher rate. He said that "it's the most profitable", which does not necessarily mean that it hits at the highest rate. It might as well hit a bit lower rates, but with much bigger sample size, which would ultimately be way more profitable than hitting 60% among 10 games (just an example).

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    I don't post often, have been following Wallco's amazing work for sometime now. Believe me when I say, He knows his shit and has done his homework. It's a good question your asking, But the way Wallco is running it has come with years of insight beforehand. I'm sure he has the historical data, But always remember, What occurred in the past 2-3 seasons (or even further back) guarantees nothing in the future seasons. It only acts as a guide. Sometimes a not to accurate guide. He is posting it in a way he has found will maximize our profits MOST of the time. NO one knows how to Maximize profits ALL of the time, that's impossible. Have an amazing week folks, and thanks as always for running another great system Wallco. Cheers!

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    Thanks ALSO Bigtime to Kev the Brit for his work listing the Morrison and 1-7-5.Much appreciated to BOTH of you fine gentleman!
    Quote Originally Posted by takethepnts View Post
    I don't post often, have been following Wallco's amazing work for sometime now. Believe me when I say, He knows his shit and has done his homework. It's a good question your asking, But the way Wallco is running it has come with years of insight beforehand. I'm sure he has the historical data, But always remember, What occurred in the past 2-3 seasons (or even further back) guarantees nothing in the future seasons. It only acts as a guide. Sometimes a not to accurate guide. He is posting it in a way he has found will maximize our profits MOST of the time. NO one knows how to Maximize profits ALL of the time, that's impossible. Have an amazing week folks, and thanks as always for running another great system Wallco. Cheers!

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    Have been following for years now as well, and have the utmost respect for the key players in this thread. Never meant to cause a stir, was just asking a couple questions to provoke further thought into our betting strategies. Criticizing someone for asking questions will not get anyone anywhere.

    I'll go back to my hole and shut the hell up.

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    Hey bro. My reply wasn't a shot. Just simply stating my opinion on how I see the systems being operated. Questions 'intelligent questions' such as yours is never a bad thing.I simply stated Wallco has VERY likely checked your questions angle. Have a super day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    I'll go back to my hole and shut the hell up.
    Anyone who provides food for thought is always welcome here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    Anyone who provides food for thought is always welcome here.
    Thanks Kev, that was my sole intent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    Do you have a win% for these (A) bets? Why then are the (B) and (C) bets weighted so heavily if it is the (A) bets that have the highest win%?
    Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
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  21. #266
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    Morrison 12/8 Results & 12/9 Plays

    12/8 Results
    (Covers.com)
    Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.35pm #41 V1 Denver: C Bet won 5 units
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    12/9 Plays
    (All times EST)

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet to win 1 unit
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
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    Upcoming Plays (12/10)

    Currently Published Morrison System:
    Scheduled:
    7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
    Possible:
    10.35pm #44 V1 Miami: C Bet to win 1 unit plus lost A & B Bet amounts

    Morrison 1-7-5 System:
    Scheduled:
    7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
    Possible:
    8.05pm #45 V2 Portland: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
    8.35pm #46 V2 New York: B Bet to win 7 unit plus lost A Bet amount
    10.35pm #44 V1 Miami: C Bet to win 5 units plus lost A & B Bet amounts
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    Results to Date (11/1 - 12/8)
    Completed Series

    Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +34.00 units

    Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +93.48 units

    Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

    * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
    Hi Wallco,

    I like the way the 1-7-5 is going!, is there a minimum bankroll you would recommend to be able to use this method?, mine is currently $955 at the moment.

    Thanks

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    2014-15 System to Date: 17-0 (fin. series)
    Systemprofit/loss: +17.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

    v1 Plays
    (A) 9-9
    (B) 3-5

    (C) 3-2
    (D) 2-0
    Losses: None



    Games for (12/9/14):
    #18 Miami (+5) @ Phoenix (B) (9:05 pm EST)
    #19 Sacramento @ L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) (10:35 pm EST)
    #20 San Antonio @ Utah (**) (A) (9:05 pm EST)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post.


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brundle99 View Post
    Hi Wallco,

    I like the way the 1-7-5 is going!, is there a minimum bankroll you would recommend to be able to use this method?, mine is currently $955 at the moment.

    Thanks
    .5% to 1% of your entire BR is probably about as large as you want to get but it is solely up to you. As wallco just stated, one loss is roughly 26.5 units, meaning on any given loss using a 1% unit you will lose a quarter of your bankroll. Keep in mind there will be days where there could be 3-5 chases going on at any one time so you will want to make sure you have enough in the bank to cover all chases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Because a system loss, with too heavy of a bet early on in series, could result in a VERY LARGE loss amount for that series. It's 26.52 units per loss the way I do it now. This only requires 3 1/2 (B) bet wins or 5 1/2 (C) bet wins to make money back for each loss. The (A) bets are just the gravy that slowly add up. I tested four bet strategies at once, and 1-7-5 unfiltered prevailed.
    If the (A) bets are historically profitable on their own why include them in the chase?

    Separate the (A) bets completely from the chase (betting them at a certain percentage or unit) to avoid a heavy chase loss, and only chase the (B) and (C) bets. Would that not maximize profits while reducing a chase loss?

    Again, this is just an idea, I do not know if this would work as I have not been given visibility to the (A) bet win %. I am not asking for handouts, just trying to further what we are doing here.

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    Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3568 View Post
    Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.
    In this circumstance I believe Wallco postpones the 2nd starter until the other series is complete. Our biggest risk then is a possible loss of 1 unit. So, yes, I will pass on Utah until the Miami series is complete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by njb5572 View Post
    If the (A) bets are historically profitable on their own why include them in the chase?

    Separate the (A) bets completely from the chase (betting them at a certain percentage or unit) to avoid a heavy chase loss, and only chase the (B) and (C) bets. Would that not maximize profits while reducing a chase loss?

    Again, this is just an idea, I do not know if this would work as I have not been given visibility to the (A) bet win %. I am not asking for handouts, just trying to further what we are doing here.
    I'm not sure. Test it and let me know. Until then, unfiltered 1-7-5 is the MOST PROFITABLE strategy at the current time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3568 View Post
    Should Utah be postponed? They can potentially be the opponent for Miami's "D" bet.
    Utah is not postponed. Utah would only be on their (B) bet during Miami (D) bet. Had both teams been a (D) bet, then yes, we would wait on Utah series. Even though I have a tendency to suspend series with dueling (D) bets, you really don't have to, since one team is M/L and one team gets points. System grades all series since backtest had no way of knowing when these series occurred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    I'm not sure. Test it and let me know. Until then, unfiltered 1-7-5 is the MOST PROFITABLE strategy at the current time.
    Sure I would love to Wallco but I would also like to avoid reinventing the wheel... If you are unwilling to help that's fine, the reason I asked the question in the first place is not to disprove any ONE individuals optimal betting strategy but to advance it. We would not be where we are today without YOU and several others in here, but I also realize that not a single one of us is as smart as the collective group which is WHY I asked this question on this open forum!

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    Morrison 12/9 Results & 12/10 Plays

    12/9 Results
    (Covers.com)
    Legend/Abbreviations: won - Series won 1/7/5 unit(s). lost - Bet lost but series continues. lost/stopped - Series lost or stopped. Series/Bet filtered out - for reason stated. MEP - Most Efficient Player.

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet won 1 unit (ATS)
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet won 1 unit (ATS)
    #46 V2 New York. Series filtered out: worst road team

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.35pm #45 V2 Portland: B Bet won 7 units
    8.05pm #46 V2 New York: A Bet lost. B Bet 12/10
    9.05pm #42 V2 Miami: C Bet won 5 units
    9.05pm #44 V1 Miami: B Bet won 7 units
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    12/10 Plays
    (All times EST)

    Currently Published Morrison System
    (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54)
    7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit

    Morrison 1-7-5 System
    (ATS all bets)
    7.05pm #47 V1 LA Clippers: A Bet to win 1 unit
    8.35pm #46 V2 New York: B Bet to win 7 units plus lost A Bet amount
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Upcoming Plays (12/11)

    Currently Published Morrison System:
    Scheduled:
    None
    Possible:
    None

    Morrison 1-7-5 System:
    Scheduled:
    None
    Possible:
    None
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Results to Date (11/1 - 12/8)
    Completed Series

    Currently Published Morrison System total P/L so far (3 point buy* all bets @ odds -185/1.54): +36.00 units

    Morrison 1-7-5 System total P/L so far (ATS all bets @ odds -110/1.91): +112.48 units

    Please refer to post #248 for detailed stats for the period 11/1 - 12/6. Detailed stats for the season so far will continue to be posted weekly on Sundays.

    * Always buy 3 points with the Currently Published Morrison System, except when the selected team is -3 ATS or greater, in which case the ML is the official bet. Alternatively, the bettor may reduce the bet amount, or buy 3 points or stop the series at that point. However, the ML result will be the official system bet for the record.
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2014-15 System to Date: 20-0 (fin. series)
    Systemprofit/loss: +20.00 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 0

    (12/9/14):
    #18 Miami (+4) (B) - Win
    #19 L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) - Win
    #20 Utah (+9) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 11-9
    (B) 4-5

    (C) 3-2
    (D) 2-0
    Losses: None



    There are no system plays for (12/10/14)



    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 12-10-14 at 11:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Utah is not postponed. Utah would only be on their (B) bet during Miami (D) bet. Had both teams been a (D) bet, then yes, we would wait on Utah series. Even though I have a tendency to suspend series with dueling (D) bets, you really don't have to, since one team is M/L and one team gets points. System grades all series since backtest had no way of knowing when these series occurred.
    Thanks for the clarification. I seem to remember your original description where we only bet competing "A" bets and skip all others, but I may be remembering it wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3568 View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. I seem to remember your original description where we only bet competing "A" bets and skip all others, but I may be remembering it wrong.
    I kind of changed that over the years but never corrected it in the rules. System has always counted all games, but whether or not we played all was discretionary.

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