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    bryant81
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    LeBron James

    So here's something I noticed about LeBron:
    2010
    LeBron quits against Boston multiple games, most notably in a PIVOTAL game 5 (series tied 2-2) when they got blown out by 32 at home. Ends with 15 points on 3-14 shooting (-22). Nice statline the next game but he checked out (knowing that was his last game as a Cavalier). Then he "decides" to go to Miami.
    2011
    This is where we truly saw on the grand stage that LeBron has issues in pressure moments. He choked in multiple games, most notably games 4-6. Had 8 points in game 4, choked in 4th quarters all series long (see below) where he averaged about 3 points per 4th quarter in the 6 game series. He scored 17 and 21 points in games 5 and 6, respectively, and averaged just 15.3ppg in the last 3 games of the series (lost all 3).

    2012
    Won championship. This was his year. 100% credit for this one.
    2013
    Won but got real lucky they didn't lose game 6 down 3-2 and down 5 with just 28.3 seconds left in the game after 2 terrible LeBron turnovers. Was tentative for most of first 6 games. They dared him to shoot and he wasn't confident. Diaw held him to 3-21 shooting in the series when he guarded him. Games 1-3 he was straight scared and clearly took a step back mentally, averaging just 16.7 ppg in the first 3 games. Game 4 Wade carried them but LeBron ended up scoring like 9 points in the last couple minutes of garbage time to pad his stats and end up with more points than Wade. Game 5 he goes 8-22 and lost. Game 6 was pretty bad for most of game (until first half of 4th) and would've ended the series with 2 terrible turnovers and elimination. It was going to be the same story all over again for LeBron. But of course, he got real lucky that Ray Allen saved his a**. He went off in game 7 and all of a sudden we're hearing he's GOAT, and something about Mount Rushmore lol.
    2014
    Played well first 2 games, showed up for 3 quarters total during games 3-5. Game 3 he shows up for first quarter for 14 points, ends with 22 points with 7 turnovers (-21). All while getting completely owned on defense. Game 4 doesn't show up first half with only 9 points and down 19 (-15) then he scores a meaningless 19 in the 3rd to pad his stats and ends with 28 and 8. Game 5 comes out strong in first quarter had 17-6-1 only 14-4-4 rest of game and couldn't stop the bleeding in the 2nd quarter when Heat as a team scored 11 points and he had just 3.
    End result: if Spurs close out game 6 last year as they should've, we're looking at LeBron quitting/choking in multiple games in a series (and these are PIVOTAL games) in 4 of the last 5 years! Including 3 of the last 4 Finals. If the East wasn't so weak, they wouldn't have made the Finals 4 straight years. Have they faced even 1 true contender in the East during the last 4 seasons? I don't believe so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryant81 View Post
    If the East wasn't so weak, they wouldn't have made the Finals 4 straight years. Have they faced even 1 true contender in the East during the last 4 seasons? I don't believe so.
    This is the part a lot of people on this site don't get.

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    Only impressive series they won in the east was against the bulls in 2011. This heat team has only won 3 impressive series imo. One each against the bulls, thunder and spurs. The east has been awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romerowned View Post
    Only impressive series they won in the east was against the bulls in 2011. This heat team has only won 3 impressive series imo. One each against the bulls, thunder and spurs. The east has been awful.
    The Celtics were very good in 2011-- they would have been defending champs if KG hadn't been injured the year before OR if Joey didn't ref game 7. And they were pretty good in 2012. The Pacers were decent in 2012. The East just plays a different style of ball. It's all about matchups. Even though the Spurs dominated this series, I think the Heat would have beaten any other Western team (especially OKC).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seto View Post
    This is the part a lot of people on this site don't get.
    Yup. People want to compare this Heat team to some of the great teams or try to compare LeBron to guys like MJ or even Kobe/Shaq/Duncan and it's just straight misguided. This guy has shown time and time again who his true character is. I hope he never wins again. One of the most over hyped players. I mean dude is a great talent. But the heart/will/determination is still questionable after two championships, and that really is concerning.

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    Sign of the times, since LBJ has been out of diapers everybody connected to him has been telling him how great he is.
    Most of the toughest willed athletes grew up having to handle adversity, developing character.

    LBJ is a total frontrunner who will wilt and disappear when the shit hits the fan. To me that will be his legacy.

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