1. #1
    Jay Edgar
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    Jay Edgar NBA, Wednesday 03.21.07

    Through Tuesday 03.20.07

    5%-OFF TEAMS vs. MONEYLINE (risking 1u on dogs; betting to win 1u on favorites)
    Tuesday, 3-7, +0.49u
    (NJ, CHA, NY, PHI, MEM, LAC, GS, IND, MIN, POR)
    YTD 262-481, +46.87u
    (since the ASB: 53-116, -18.84u)

    SAME TEAMS ATS (1.05u to win 1.00u)
    Tuesday, 5-5, -0.25u
    YTD 390-340 (.534) +33.00u
    (since the ASB: 82-83 (.440) -5.15u)


    POWER RATINGS OVER LAST TEN GAMES
    1 HOU 67
    2 CLE 66
    3 DET 66
    4 DAL 64
    5 SAN 64
    6 GS 61
    7 DEN 61
    8 UTH 59
    9 MIA 57
    10 ATL 54
    11 MIL 54
    12 CHI 53
    13 WAS 51
    14 BOS 50
    15 PHX 50
    16 NOK 48
    17 ORL 48
    18 LAC 48
    19 SEA 47
    20 NY 46
    21 SAC 46
    22 NJ 46
    23 TOR 44
    24 CHA 42
    25 IND 40
    26 POR 38
    27 PHI 37
    28 MIN 35
    29 MEM 35
    30 LAX 32


    EDGAR LINES FOR 03.21.07
    (favorite-spread/moneyline-dog)

    ATL 3.6/149 over MIA

    TOR 3.0/138 over ORL

    BOS 6.1/223 over CHA

    MIL 6.0/216 over LAC

    CLE 5.8/206 over DAL

    SAN 9.3/432 over IND

    SEA 4.5/167 over WAS

    SAC 5.6/193 over MIN


    STRIKE PRICES (5%-OFF MARKER)
    (At this moneyline or better, team is a play both SU and ATS under 5%-ML-OFF method.)

    MIA +178, ATL -126

    ORL +165, TOR -117

    CHA +274, BOS -185

    LAC +265, MIL -179

    DAL +251, CLE -171

    IND +586, SAN -335

    WAS +201, SEA -140

    MIN +234, SAC -161
    Last edited by Jay Edgar; 03-21-07 at 12:14 AM.

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    Jay Edgar
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    Cleveland is sporting a pretty big number over Dallas. Their rankings are very close, and both are in a BxB. Why the big spread for the home team? Cavs have a historically high home/road differential. (Although the Mavs do not.)

    But the real reason is that I have discovered that over the last five years back-to-backs do not affect the winning percentage of the home team. Home teams win at the same rate (.585 or so, if I recall), whether or not they are playing back-to-back. Road teams, on the other hand, feel the BxB. Their winning percentage drops 7% in BxB games. So in calculating my lines I penalize the road team for BxB, but not the home team.

    Of course that's all road teams in the league that lose 7% in BxB games. Whether the elite teams feel less impact, I don't know as a matter of research. Intuitively, you might think that to be the case.
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    Who has played best all year? Who really deserves the #1 pick? Who knows? But the Edgar numbers have an opinon.

    Thanks to Excel I can waste a few minutes figuring out every team's average "game score" for the year.

    (The "game score" is the number awarded every team in each game based on final score and margin, home/road, and strength of opponent. The average game score is about 50. To get the daily power ratings, the last ten games scores are dumped into a weighted formula.)

    Here are the Edgar standings for the year as of this morning, by conference. Edgar ranking to the left of the team. (The team's real ranking in the actual standings is in bold parenthesis)

    EAST

    1 CHI 56.81 (3)
    2 DET 56.56 (1)
    3 CLE 55.66 (2)
    4 TOR 50.99 (6)
    5 WAS 50.25 (4)
    6 MIA 50.12 (5)
    7 ORL 49.44 (10)
    8 NJ 47.31 (7)

    9 MIL 46.67 (13)
    10 NY 46.31 (8)
    11 IND 45.75 (9)
    12 CHA 42.07 (14)
    13 PHI 42.06 (12)
    14 ATL 41.93 (11)
    15 BOS 41.70 (15)

    WEST
    1 DAL 63.82 (1)
    2 SAN 62.98 (3)
    3 PHX 59.78 (2)
    4 HOU 59.68 (5)
    5 UTH 58.01 (4)
    6 LAX 50.91 (7)
    7 SAC 49.97 (11)
    8 DEN 49.97 (6)

    9 GS 48.83 (8)
    10 LAC 48.40 (9)
    11 MIN 46.97 (12)
    12 SEA 46.68 (14)
    13 NOK 45.21 (10)
    14 POR 43.46 (13)
    15 MEM 41.35 (15)

    Average score in West: 51.73
    Average score in East: 48.24



    Oden-Durant Derby

    1 MEM 41.35 (1)
    2 BOS 41.70 (2)
    3 ATL 41.93 (7)
    4 PHI 42.06 (5)
    5 CHA 42.07 (3)
    6 POR 43.46 (8)
    Last edited by Jay Edgar; 03-21-07 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Edgar View Post
    Through Tuesday 03.20.07

    5%-OFF TEAMS vs. MONEYLINE (risking 1u on dogs; betting to win 1u on favorites)
    Tuesday, 3-7, +0.49u
    (NJ, CHA, NY, PHI, MEM, LAC, GS, IND, MIN, POR)
    YTD 262-481, +46.87u
    (since the ASB: 53-116, -18.84u)

    SAME TEAMS ATS (1.05u to win 1.00u)
    Tuesday, 5-5, -0.25u
    YTD 390-340 (.534) +33.00u
    (since the ASB: 82-83 (.440) -5.15u)


    POWER RATINGS OVER LAST TEN GAMES
    1 HOU 67
    2 CLE 66
    3 DET 66
    4 DAL 64
    5 SAN 64
    6 GS 61
    7 DEN 61
    8 UTH 59
    9 MIA 57
    10 ATL 54
    11 MIL 54
    12 CHI 53
    13 WAS 51
    14 BOS 50
    15 PHX 50
    16 NOK 48
    17 ORL 48
    18 LAC 48
    19 SEA 47
    20 NY 46
    21 SAC 46
    22 NJ 46
    23 TOR 44
    24 CHA 42
    25 IND 40
    26 POR 38
    27 PHI 37
    28 MIN 35
    29 MEM 35
    30 LAX 32


    EDGAR LINES FOR 03.21.07
    (favorite-spread/moneyline-dog)

    ATL 3.6/149 over MIA

    TOR 3.0/138 over ORL

    BOS 6.1/223 over CHA

    MIL 6.0/216 over LAC

    CLE 5.8/206 over DAL

    SAN 9.3/432 over IND

    SEA 4.5/167 over WAS

    SAC 5.6/193 over MIN


    STRIKE PRICES (5%-OFF MARKER)
    (At this moneyline or better, team is a play both SU and ATS under 5%-ML-OFF method.)

    MIA +178, ATL -126

    ORL +165, TOR -117

    CHA +274, BOS -185

    LAC +265, MIL -179

    DAL +251, CLE -171

    IND +586, SAN -335

    WAS +201, SEA -140

    MIN +234, SAC -161


    If you would not mind, could you explain all of this for me?

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    Nevermind, I just read your FAQ thread. I am going to try this out.

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    Thanks for the interest, 019.

    Just note the (lack of) success since the all-star break.

    These numbers are not beating the books like they were earlier in the year.

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    Thanks for all your hard work on this Jay, I've really enjoyed following it.

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    Jay, if you have the information available.... What is the longest loosing streak and winning streak your system has produced?

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    It's actually been positive since opening night, but the real spurt was in late December and January, and the peak was February 9. (I was away Dec 28-31)

    This is the net profit assuming a unit =100.

    31-Oct 415
    1-Nov 1361
    3-Nov 2197
    4-Nov 2300
    5-Nov 2554
    6-Nov 2459
    7-Nov 2654
    8-Nov 3538
    10-Nov 3142
    11-Nov 2807
    12-Nov 2286
    13-Nov 1868
    14-Nov 1435
    15-Nov 3013
    17-Nov 2794
    18-Nov 2120
    19-Nov 1915
    21-Nov 1939
    22-Nov 2308
    24-Nov 3643
    25-Nov 2802
    26-Nov 2592
    27-Nov 3200
    28-Nov 3925
    29-Nov 4069
    30-Nov 4069
    1-Dec 3228
    2-Dec 3240
    3-Dec 3733
    4-Dec 3165
    5-Dec 3405
    6-Dec 4145
    7-Dec 4790
    8-Dec 3352
    9-Dec 3372
    10-Dec 3634
    11-Dec 3152
    12-Dec 2728
    13-Dec 2726
    14-Dec 2729
    15-Dec 3696
    16-Dec 3745
    17-Dec 4258
    18-Dec 4321
    19-Dec 4116
    20-Dec 4427
    21-Dec 4691
    22-Dec 6364
    23-Dec 5539
    25-Dec 5744
    26-Dec 5487
    27-Dec 5455
    1-Jan 5595
    2-Jan 5585
    3-Jan 5852
    4-Jan 5547
    5-Jan 5580
    6-Jan 6204
    7-Jan 5597
    8-Jan 5557
    9-Jan 5182
    10-Jan 4924
    11-Jan 5089
    12-Jan 5762
    13-Jan 5724
    14-Jan 5724
    15-Jan 6204
    16-Jan 6364
    17-Jan 6814
    18-Jan 6609
    19-Jan 6427
    20-Jan 6906
    21-Jan 6396
    22-Jan 5986
    23-Jan 4961
    24-Jan 7134
    25-Jan 7389
    26-Jan 9040
    27-Jan 9530
    28-Jan 8685
    29-Jan 9981
    30-Jan 9976
    31-Jan 10387
    2-Feb 9728
    3-Feb 10866
    4-Feb 11196
    5-Feb 10991
    6-Feb 10782
    7-Feb 10204
    8-Feb 10404
    9-Feb 11921
    10-Feb 11056
    11-Feb 11736
    12-Feb 11121
    13-Feb 11088
    14-Feb 10084
    15-Feb 10386
    20-Feb 9766
    21-Feb 11046
    22-Feb 10781
    23-Feb 10459
    24-Feb 9434
    25-Feb 9962
    26-Feb 9142
    27-Feb 8527
    28-Feb 7955
    1-Mar 7750
    2-Mar 7847
    3-Mar 7893
    4-Mar 7893
    5-Mar 8503
    6-Mar 7459
    7-Mar 7598
    8-Mar 7358
    9-Mar 7465
    10-Mar 7584
    11-Mar 6584
    12-Mar 6808
    13-Mar 7009
    14-Mar 6444
    15-Mar 6834
    16-Mar 6788
    17-Mar 8209
    18-Mar 7921
    19-Mar 7963
    20-Mar 7987

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay Edgar View Post
    It's actually been positive since opening night, but the real spurt was in late December and January, and the peak was February 9. (I was away Dec 28-31)

    This is the net profit assuming a unit =100.

    31-Oct 415
    1-Nov 1361
    3-Nov 2197
    4-Nov 2300
    5-Nov 2554
    6-Nov 2459
    7-Nov 2654
    8-Nov 3538
    10-Nov 3142
    11-Nov 2807
    12-Nov 2286
    13-Nov 1868
    14-Nov 1435
    15-Nov 3013
    17-Nov 2794
    18-Nov 2120
    19-Nov 1915
    21-Nov 1939
    22-Nov 2308
    24-Nov 3643
    25-Nov 2802
    26-Nov 2592
    27-Nov 3200
    28-Nov 3925
    29-Nov 4069
    30-Nov 4069
    1-Dec 3228
    2-Dec 3240
    3-Dec 3733
    4-Dec 3165
    5-Dec 3405
    6-Dec 4145
    7-Dec 4790
    8-Dec 3352
    9-Dec 3372
    10-Dec 3634
    11-Dec 3152
    12-Dec 2728
    13-Dec 2726
    14-Dec 2729
    15-Dec 3696
    16-Dec 3745
    17-Dec 4258
    18-Dec 4321
    19-Dec 4116
    20-Dec 4427
    21-Dec 4691
    22-Dec 6364
    23-Dec 5539
    25-Dec 5744
    26-Dec 5487
    27-Dec 5455
    1-Jan 5595
    2-Jan 5585
    3-Jan 5852
    4-Jan 5547
    5-Jan 5580
    6-Jan 6204
    7-Jan 5597
    8-Jan 5557
    9-Jan 5182
    10-Jan 4924
    11-Jan 5089
    12-Jan 5762
    13-Jan 5724
    14-Jan 5724
    15-Jan 6204
    16-Jan 6364
    17-Jan 6814
    18-Jan 6609
    19-Jan 6427
    20-Jan 6906
    21-Jan 6396
    22-Jan 5986
    23-Jan 4961
    24-Jan 7134
    25-Jan 7389
    26-Jan 9040
    27-Jan 9530
    28-Jan 8685
    29-Jan 9981
    30-Jan 9976
    31-Jan 10387
    2-Feb 9728
    3-Feb 10866
    4-Feb 11196
    5-Feb 10991
    6-Feb 10782
    7-Feb 10204
    8-Feb 10404
    9-Feb 11921
    10-Feb 11056
    11-Feb 11736
    12-Feb 11121
    13-Feb 11088
    14-Feb 10084
    15-Feb 10386
    20-Feb 9766
    21-Feb 11046
    22-Feb 10781
    23-Feb 10459
    24-Feb 9434
    25-Feb 9962
    26-Feb 9142
    27-Feb 8527
    28-Feb 7955
    1-Mar 7750
    2-Mar 7847
    3-Mar 7893
    4-Mar 7893
    5-Mar 8503
    6-Mar 7459
    7-Mar 7598
    8-Mar 7358
    9-Mar 7465
    10-Mar 7584
    11-Mar 6584
    12-Mar 6808
    13-Mar 7009
    14-Mar 6444
    15-Mar 6834
    16-Mar 6788
    17-Mar 8209
    18-Mar 7921
    19-Mar 7963
    20-Mar 7987

    But as far as the picks go against the spread. What is the longest loosing streak and winning streak? The most games lost in a row and the most games you have won in a row?

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    It's played 742 games so far, several every night. I'm not sure how you'd compute 'streaks' on a game-to-game basis in that environment.

    The list above shows you where it stood in net units after every night. I think we have probably had streaks of up to about 4 winning nights in a row and up to about 3 losing nights in a row, if that helps. You can tell for sure by looking at the daily totals in that column.

    Here is the same chart for pointspread plays only:

    31-Oct 100
    1-Nov 390
    3-Nov 685
    4-Nov 775
    5-Nov 865
    6-Nov 750
    7-Nov 840
    8-Nov 1235
    10-Nov 1115
    11-Nov 1200
    12-Nov 880
    13-Nov 670
    14-Nov 450
    15-Nov 845
    17-Nov 615
    18-Nov 380
    19-Nov 275
    21-Nov 555
    22-Nov 740
    24-Nov 1235
    25-Nov 905
    26-Nov 895
    27-Nov 1195
    28-Nov 1485
    29-Nov 1365
    30-Nov 1465
    1-Dec 1440
    2-Dec 1735
    3-Dec 1935
    4-Dec 1615
    5-Dec 1605
    6-Dec 1690
    7-Dec 1990
    8-Dec 1350
    9-Dec 1225
    10-Dec 1110
    11-Dec 785
    12-Dec 675
    13-Dec 645
    14-Dec 740
    15-Dec 1330
    16-Dec 1410
    17-Dec 1710
    18-Dec 1695
    19-Dec 1590
    20-Dec 1770
    21-Dec 1870
    22-Dec 2150
    23-Dec 1825
    25-Dec 1925
    26-Dec 1805
    27-Dec 1685
    1-Jan 1680
    2-Jan 1665
    3-Jan 2060
    4-Jan 1955
    5-Jan 1930
    6-Jan 2325
    7-Jan 2005
    8-Jan 1895
    9-Jan 1880
    10-Jan 1655
    11-Jan 1650
    12-Jan 1840
    13-Jan 1925
    14-Jan 2025
    15-Jan 2315
    16-Jan 2310
    17-Jan 2390
    18-Jan 2385
    19-Jan 2560
    20-Jan 2750
    21-Jan 2640
    22-Jan 2725
    23-Jan 2300
    24-Jan 2995
    25-Jan 3195
    26-Jan 3680
    27-Jan 3970
    28-Jan 3650
    29-Jan 3945
    30-Jan 4040
    31-Jan 4220
    2-Feb 4095
    3-Feb 4380
    4-Feb 4480
    5-Feb 4355
    6-Feb 4345
    7-Feb 3915
    8-Feb 4015
    9-Feb 4405
    10-Feb 4185
    11-Feb 4475
    12-Feb 4160
    13-Feb 4250
    14-Feb 3715
    15-Feb 3815
    20-Feb 3690
    21-Feb 4190
    22-Feb 4285
    23-Feb 3960
    24-Feb 3435
    25-Feb 3725
    26-Feb 3505
    27-Feb 3190
    28-Feb 2760
    1-Mar 2755
    2-Mar 2840
    3-Mar 2930
    4-Mar 3225
    5-Mar 3215
    6-Mar 2685
    7-Mar 2870
    8-Mar 2865
    9-Mar 2950
    10-Mar 3040
    11-Mar 2610
    12-Mar 2600
    13-Mar 2990
    14-Mar 2865
    15-Mar 2965
    16-Mar 3045
    17-Mar 3340
    18-Mar 3330
    19-Mar 3325
    20-Mar 3300
    Last edited by Jay Edgar; 03-21-07 at 03:02 PM.

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    Allright, thanks Jay.

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    % TEAM ATS ML
    6 SEA LOSS -135
    7 MIN WIN 265
    8 MIL LOSS -155
    11 CHA WIN 375
    13 IND LOSS -100
    25 ATL LOSS -100
    28 CLE LOSS -100

    Bad break to have to include MIL in the grading, but those are the rules I set up.

    Through Wednesday 03.21.07

    5%-OFF TEAMS vs. MONEYLINE (risking 1u on dogs; betting to win 1u on favorites)
    Wednesday, 2-5, +0.50u
    (ATL, CHA, MIL, CLE, IND, SEA, MIN)
    YTD 264-486, +47.27u
    (since the ASB: 55-121, -18.34u)

    SAME TEAMS ATS (1.05u to win 1.00u)
    Wednesday, 2-5, -3.25u
    YTD 392-345 (.531) +29.75u
    (since the ASB: 84-88 (.488) -8.40u)
    Last edited by Jay Edgar; 03-22-07 at 08:40 AM.

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