[4seasons]

Recently I've learned that when games say start at 7:05, SBR trims off 5 minutes and says 7:00. Then, their clock is ahead, so 3 more minutes are trimmed from the scheduled (not actual) start time. So, I figure I need to allow 10 minutes before the start time to get a wager in at SBR.

Well, it was at least 20 minutes before the start, and the line is down. TWENTY MINUTES isn't enough time to allow with this place now?

Had 162 points there and was putting them all on the West ML @ +155 which would win 251. Instead, this SBR Book is getting more lame by the day, and it's just instead of entertaining, it's aggravating.

As I wrote before, they can take the lines down anytime they want, just openly state whatever the policy is so we can plan accordingly. This premature eradication at the SBR Book is lame, limp and lousy, not to mention no policy disclosed is just that too.

[yisman]

SBR listed the start time at 7:30 which means it was off the board at 7:27 PM Eastern.

[4seasons]

For the record, I went to make the bet of 162 on West ML @ +155 at 7:15 PM ET. Line was gone TWENTY MINUTES early, at least TWENTY MINUTES early, as this game may not start until 8 PM.


SBR Book

[yisman]

Common problem with all star games that they lie about the start times. Check a bunch of sites. Listed as 7:30. It'll probably tip at 7:45 or 7:50 or so, but that's because the NBA likes to waste time.

[4seasons]

No way Yis, line was down at 7:15, I couldn't get it in then.

[4seasons]

So here's the bet I'm now making with myself. If the West loses, and I wind up saving 162 points, I won't say another bad thing about the SBR Book this year. On the other hand, if the West wins, then I will not make another bet in the SBR book this year, or until I cash out the over 2000 points needed for $100 gift card.

PS 7:45 PM, game still not started!

[yisman]

Game actually started 7:44

[4seasons]

My guess is that SBR doesn't enjoy handing out $100 gift cards, based on what folks are telling me, and on my own personal experience with their stingy Book. In fact, they don't even list the $100 gift card option on the gift card page ...

http://store.sportsbookreview.com/categories/44-gift-cards/

I know I saw one for a $100 VC and one for $100 MCrd, that were each like 2200 points, just within the past couple of weeks. Guess they've been discontinued ... naturally! So looks like the play is for 2 $50 Target gift cards that will take 2,336 points. At earning 12 points per day, that figures to be about 6.5 months where I'll need to make one post per day. So let's say by the end of August, I'll be able to cash out, presuming SBR hasn't discontinued the whole thing by then.

I see the West is off to a 10 point lead, and they'll win. So, looks like I'm not going to have to worry with whatever SBR's Book policy is on taking lines down anymore. I won't even transfer another point in there. In fact, just transferred my 162 points out. I'm done with that nonsense. Don't believe me? You'll see from today on, my point balance will only go up, until that is, about the end of August when they'll be cashed out.

So I'll stop by daily for the quick post, but will not be posting any more of my picks. Will spend a whole let less time here, plus not another point to the SBR Book, and will search for a site that will be more enjoyable.

Why the SBR Book does this, I mean I thought Books want as much action as possible, I'll never know because who is SBR? If I knew who SBR was, I'd ask them myself. Instead, I know I'm pretty much talking to myself, and there's a lot more bigger problems in the world to worry about than SBR. SBR Book.

[4seasons]

Just wanted to add that I read over the weekend here that SBR bans members who consistently post winners. I thought that's what this place was all about, but I appear to be greatly misled. If this plays is in bed with the Books, and if they do ban people here for simply posting consistent winners, then what are we doing here except to fade the posts here? Always wondered why it seems no one here can post a record of much greater than 50%.

[4seasons]

Would have been an enjoyable evening, had I been able to get my bet in, and win those 251 points. I tried to do so at 7:15 PM ET in the SBR book, but the SBR Book was asleep. That's a damn shame. Can you ever win I wonder?

I've read how so many books, recently it's Oddsmaker, confiscates winnings on a bogus claim that the account owner is a pro. If the Book accepts and confirms the wager, the Book can't rightfully after the fact make any such claims. Even SBR who wrote the review doesn't understand, as to how do they determine if the player is pro or recreational? If it's determined the player is pro, the Book can close the account down or place small betting limits on the account. I've heard this is done routinely. So the Books aren't taking any risk. Must be nice. As long as the folks lose, they're recreational, but if they win they're pro and are subject to forfeiture.

So the allegation is that SBR bans members who post consistent winners. And sportsbooks will confiscate your winnings if you consistently win. Should make folks very uneasy about what they read here, and trusting these books with your cash. It's a lose lose situation.

Don't worry, as long as you post and keep picking losers, the industry welcomes you like a pit boss with loaded dice. Place your bets, yo eleven , oh craps, snake eyes, better luck next time!

Whenever a craps table at the casino is hot, the house has all the tricks to deflate the momentum. First, they'll bring in new dealers, constantly rotate the dealers, and intentionally short change paying folks which if they're caught only slows the game down as arguments start. They'll have the drinks gal bump into you, spill something on you, or just bring you something you didn't order. You'll have the pit boss tell you how to roll the dice. Of course if the house is winning, the house doesn't care how you roll the dice. But as soon as the house starts to lose, better not have 2 hands on the dice, better have both dice hit the back wall, better have both dice at eye level, better not throw them too hard. If nothing else works, the house will just close the table down.

So the advice I have for you if you're rolling hot on the craps table is, that everytime the pitboss says slow them down, you be sure to wing even harder than you did the last time. If they have a problem with you winning, then you have a problem with patronizing their establishment.

Very easy to do. You see, I have a problem now with the SBR book. My only recourse is, to never use the SBR book again. That's the beauty of it. If SBR didn't take the line down 20 minutes early, and I won, chances are eventually I'd lose and never cash out a thing. Now, I can't lose. I've guaranteed myself to cash out in August, presuming SBR and I are still around then.

It's actually quite nice. I no longer will be going to the SBR book, which I did daily, so a lot more free time for me. I don't have any more stress of placing wagers, and dealing with losses, so no more high blood pressure for me.

My only suggestion for the SBR Book is, whatever start time you post with a line, you honor that time. Instead, SBR takes down every line early, and for that I bid you farewell.

[yisman]

All I can say is that since you know the sbr book often has lines down early, you have to get there more than 10-15 minutes before the game.

[yisman]

Just wanted to add that I read over the weekend here that SBR bans members who consistently post winners. I thought that's what this place was all about, but I appear to be greatly misled. If this plays is in bed with the Books, and if they do ban people here for simply posting consistent winners, then what are we doing here except to fade the posts here? Always wondered why it seems no one here can post a record of much greater than 50%.

SBR bans/restricts posters for odd reasons, but I've never seen SBR ban anyone for posting winners. If you read that, whoever posted it was probably joking.

[4seasons]

All I can say is that since you know the sbr book often has lines down early, you have to get there more than 10-15 minutes before the game.

Too many other things to worry about, than the SBR Book's idiosyncrasies. If instead of taking lines down say at 7:05 for 7:05 games, they want to take them down at 7, then take them down at 7. But if they state 7, and then take them down 1 minute sooner which they always do, then they're out of line in my book.

Personally, I am done with the SBR Book, until if and when a resolution to the issue is published. Just too much needless aggravation over simply trying to be entertained. No matter what, I will not wager another point in the SBR Book until I've cashed out $100 worth of gift cards. The SBR Book closed down early for the last time on me. Now, I am guaranteed to win, taking no risk, and placing no more wagers here.

PS I am not under any illusion that my posting here once a day for the next 6 months to earn a $100 gift card is my winning anything. I think I figured out that a point's cash value is about 5 cents. So if you get 12 points for a post, it's like 50 cents a day. For my time, it's not like that's a win to say the least. Never-the-less, I think SBR is here to make money, and not give even 5 cents away. So, should I get to the point where they issue me the gift cards, then that's simply a very small victory in this inter-glactic war.

[4seasons]

SBR bans/restricts posters for odd reasons, but I've never seen SBR ban anyone for posting winners. If you read that, whoever posted it was probably joking.

Feel free to check yourself ...

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sports-pro...hem-money.html


Appears SBR is spinning the ban of Sharp69 for giving out his email address or some trumped up allegation. If this place was for us the Public, and this guy consistently posted winners, SBR could simply delete whatever personal info in his posts or PMs that they don't want to allow. So if this person consistently posted winners, which is gold man, it's rare like gold, then SBR should be standing on it's head to allow the posts to continue and enable all of its members to benefit.

Wouldn't it be great if a bunch of people consistently posted winners here, and we all made money thanks to the SBR forum? Would it get any better than that? Well, if SBR bans the golden goose for some lame excuse, it's stating pretty loud and clear exactly who's side SBR is on. And if SBR isn't for us, then they're against us.

Why would a bunch of folks say SBR bans folks for posting consistent winners? Why would folks who have posted consistent winners, be the ones who get banned? No one here posts consistent winners. No one! And it truly appears that that's the way SBR wants it because they're sleeping with the enemy. That is, if they're not the enemy themselves. Are they? Who is SBR exactly? Is the site owned by one human, or many? Who is this person, or who are these people? Does anyone know? The place is like the Wizard of OZ behind the curtain. Bunch of smoke and mirrors.

[4seasons]

Found a thread from last year on the topic of who owns SBR ...

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbook...wns-forum.html

... which of course revealed nothing! There's no 'About Us' link anywhere to be found. No one from SBR chimed in with an answer. It's all concealed, hidden, hush hush, in the dark, totally non-disclosed. Isn't it? So what does that tell you? Tells me that when something is trying to be hidden, there is something to hide. What's the big secret? If it's something they don't want the Public to know, can't be good? Can it?

[yisman]

SBR John owns SBR.