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    LAS VEGAS motor speedway---

    Alright guys we are heading to LAS VEGAS motor speedway for the 1st stop of the annual NASCAR West coast swing at the start of each season.Vegas also got a 2nd date this season and will be kicking off the Championship run in September for the 1st time...This year will be a triple header weekend, with the Truck series racing on Friday Night 8pm on FS1, then Saturday on FS1 at 3:30pm and ending the weekend with the big Cup race airing on FOX at 3pm..All times are EST..

    Las Vegas motor speedway is a 1.5 mile asphalt oval with variable banking in all 4 turns of 12-20 degrees with banking on the front and back stretches measuring at 9 degrees flat...Truex won this event last season as this was the only Vegas race last season...

    The big question regarding this week is how much stock do we all put into how GREAT the Fords looked at Atlanta, and how bad the new Chevy looked..this track is not rough and old like Atlanta is and not sure if it will even matter..These are the type questions that we have every season and why early betting can be very risky and tricky to start off every new racing season...

    As always everybody's opinions, thoughts, and picks are always welcomed and encouraged...Always helps to have a lot more than 1 opinion and we have good nascar posters here...Season has started with 2 good weekends so hopefully we can make it a trifecta to start the season off!!!


    GOODLUCK!!!!



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    odds posted up for cup last hour

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    holy shiiiiiit

    POL:E WINNER now available at dimes...ALWAYS wanted this option


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    NASCAR PROPS - Mar 02
    Mar 02 - 2:05 PM PENNZOIL 400 WINNER
    1 KEVIN HARVICK +500
    2 MARTIN TRUEX JR +550
    3 BRAD KESELOWSKI +650
    4 KYLE LARSON +600
    5 KYLE BUSCH +650
    6 CHASE ELLIOTT +1000
    7 JIMMIE JOHNSON +1200
    8 JOEY LOGANO +1300
    9 DENNY HAMLIN +1500
    10 RYAN BLANEY +2000
    11 CLINT BOWYER +2000
    12 KURT BUSCH +2000
    13 ERIK JONES +2500
    14 ARIC ALMIROLA +2500
    15 DANIEL SUAREZ +4500
    16 PAUL MENARD +6000
    17 RYAN NEWMAN +6500
    18 ALEX BOWMAN +7500
    19 JAMIE MCMURRAY +7500
    20 AUSTIN DILLON +7500
    21 WILLIAM BYRON +7500
    22 RICKY STENHOUSE JR +10000
    23 KASEY KAHNE +10000
    24 TREVOR BAYNE +10000
    25 DARRELL WALLACE JR +10000
    26 TY DILLON +10000
    27 CHRIS BUESCHER +10000
    28 AJ ALLMENDINGER +10000
    Mar 02 - 2:05 PM POLE POSITION - PENNZOIL 400
    1 KYLE BUSCH +500
    2 BRAD KESELOWSKI +500
    3 KYLE LARSON +500
    4 MARTIN TRUEX JR +600
    5 JOEY LOGANO +600
    6 KEVIN HARVICK +700
    7 RYAN BLANEY +700
    8 RYAN NEWMAN +1000
    9 KURT BUSCH +1000
    10 CHASE ELLIOTT +1000
    11 THE FIELD ALL OTHER DRIVERS +200
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    just used my FP pts on some truex +550

    pretty cool i dont have to waste any FP i get on sports im just guessing at....love the new nascar options in the book


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    pole winner odds also in SBR book!


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    Agree with your thoughts Mike.

    How the hell do we know if Ford are also good there (should be fine I'd guess) but more importantly, are Chevy and Hendrick way behind to start the year?


    Of course would just jump on Larson early here if Chevy was known to be fine. But going to have to wait I guess. Although practice in Atlanta didn't really reveal what was going to happen in the race for me.

    Will take him in Xfinity and have another shot at Gragson in Trucks. He came home like a steam train on that last re-start. Anyone who can pass 9 trucks in 2 laps when he needs to is worth watching I think.



    Some odds worth grabbing in the SBR Book compared to 5Dimes prices.


    NASCAR Cup Series Pennzoil 400

    Kevin Harvick +500
    Martin Truex Jr +500
    Kyle Busch +650
    Brad Keselowski +650
    Kyle Larson +650
    Chase Elliott +1150
    Joey Logano +1350
    Jimmie Johnson +1350
    Denny Hamlin +1650
    Ryan Blaney +2150
    Clint Bowyer +2250
    Kurt Busch +2250
    Erik Jones +3300
    Aric Almirola +3300
    Daniel Suarez +6600
    Paul Menard +8800
    Ryan Newman +8800
    Alex Bowman +10000
    Jamie McMurray +10000
    Austin Dillon +10000
    William Byron +10000
    Ricky Stenhouse Jr +20000
    Kasey Kahne +30000
    Trevor Bayne +30000
    Darrell Wallace Jr +30000
    Ty Dillon +50000
    Chris Buescher +100000
    AJ Allmendinger +100000


    NASCAR Cup Series Pole Position - Pennzoil 400

    Martin Truex Jr +500
    Kyle Busch +550
    Brad Keselowski +550
    Kyle Larson +550
    Kevin Harvick +850
    Joey Logano +850
    Ryan Blaney +850
    Ryan Newman +1150
    Chase Elliott +1350
    Kurt Busch +1350
    Ricky Stenhouse Jr +1650
    Erik Jones +2650
    Denny Hamlin +2750
    Clint Bowyer +2750
    Jimmie Johnson +3300
    Aric Almirola +3300
    Daniel Suarez +3300
    Paul Menard +4400
    Alex Bowman +4400
    William Byron +4400
    Jamie McMurray +5500
    Austin Dillon +8800
    Kasey Kahne +8800
    Trevor Bayne +8800
    Darrell Wallace Jr +10000
    Ty Dillon +10000
    Chris Buescher +10000
    AJ Allmendinger +10000



    Xfinity Boyd Gaming 300

    Kyle Busch +165
    Kyle Larson +300
    Ryan Blaney +350
    Christopher Bell +750
    Cole Custer +1350
    Austin Dillon +2000
    Elliott Sadler +2250
    Justin Allgaier +2750
    Tyler Reddick +3300
    Brandon Jones +3850
    Daniel Hemric +8800
    Matt Tifft +20000
    Ryan Truex +20000
    Ryan Reed +20000
    Austin Cindric +20000


    Trucks Stratosphere 200


    Kyle Busch -170
    Johnny Sauter +650
    Matt Crafton +850
    Noah Gragson +950
    Ben Rhodes +1150
    Brett Moffitt +1650
    John Hunter Nemechek +2250
    Justin Haley +2250
    Spencer Davis +2250
    Grant Enfinger +2750
    Myatt Snider +5500
    Dalton Sargeant +5500
    Stewart Friesen +5500
    Cody Coughlin +20000
    Austin Hill +30000
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    looking like they are also posting finishing position props again.....and u can parlay them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Trucks:

    Gragson (+950)
    Rhodes (1350)

    those 2 are all i will have to won unless they let us kyle parlay in trucks with other nascar plays. If.not.its just not worth the risk for me

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    weather report:

    no chance of rain this week since were are in the desert, but Vegas is having a cold front move in and the temp wont be getting out of the mid 50's...a cold ass race for vegas

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    Odds still havent moved much at all, and after watching Fords completely dominate the entire race and the new Chevy Camaro look terrible in its down force debut, a lot of bettors may just need to see more track time...i know i am...how much of that was just a 1 off on a old racetrack and how much maybe a really big problem going forward on down force tracks for the Camaro...Maybe a little bit of both

    Penske always is so strong at Vegas, I'm still thinking about Blaney and Logano early based off opening numbers, but havent pulled the trigger...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Odds still havent moved much at all, and after watching Fords completely dominate the entire race and the new Chevy Camaro look terrible in its down force debut, a lot of bettors may just need to see more track time...i know i am...how much of that was just a 1 off on a old racetrack and how much maybe a really big problem going forward on down force tracks for the Camaro...Maybe a little bit of both

    Penske always is so strong at Vegas, I'm still thinking about Blaney and Logano early based off opening numbers, but havent pulled the trigger...
    I took Logano for pole. Only one close to his record qualifying here is his team mate BradK

    But am going to risk losing the good numbers and wait to see all of practice this week, after getting totally killed fading Ford early last race.

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    Toyota +140
    Chevy +180
    Ford +240

    Books seem to have had Ford as the dog almost every race. All through last year too.

    They were so wrong last week with +400, there might be value in fading them on this still at +240

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    those are surprising to me...not sure how Chevy could be favored over ford this week....HMS looked horrific last week and JJ isnt JJ much these days so besides Larson not sure why they are so much better than fords with SHR and the new team Penske squad

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    I took a boxed double (3 x 2 leg parlays) on these three.

    Trucks Kyle -135
    Xfinity Blaney +450
    Cup Ford +240


    Trucks

    Rhodes +1400
    Gragson +800


    Cup

    Logano +1300 (as i think he might take pole and end up lower later)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    those are surprising to me...not sure how Chevy could be favored over ford this week....HMS looked horrific last week and JJ isnt JJ much these days so besides Larson not sure why they are so much better than fords with SHR and the new team Penske squad
    Plus, what exactly has Toyota shown so far to be so favored over both too?

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    That ford line makes no sense. It won't be that way when dimes lists it.

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    What is that book called you get nascar lines from? Suppose it's not open to the US?

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    https://crownbet.com.au/sports-betti...67175-26838490 and definitely would not be open to US players.

    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    That ford line makes no sense. It won't be that way when dimes lists it.
    Yeah that's at Crownbet. Greek has it as T +150, C +175, F +225

    Not sure what US facing books have it up early. Not 5D or BOL. Maybe Bookmaker?

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    we can't parlay Kyle again in the truck race with anything else NASCAR related

    thats gone for good it seems

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    Quick glance, they seem to have some nice odds.

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    Truck practice today at 5pm and 7pm

    not televised for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    Quick glance, they seem to have some nice odds.
    Yeah, plus you can increase the odds by using reward points. I took Logano from +1200 to +1300 for a buck worth of points.

    Problem is, if you win too much at any Aussie book they limit you and take away all the perks.

    So it's not all wonderful. 5D better overall if I had to choose one.

    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    we can't parlay Kyle again in the truck race with anything else NASCAR related

    thats gone for good it seems
    Not sure you should be with 5D having him at -200 again anyway. He isnt that sure. Truck teams too close on equipment quality this year.

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    damn it was down to -130, seems that was the low buying point..i would have taken that if it was parlayable

    yeah i would have lost on trucks last week because i would have had him there had i bet it

    I see Gragson and Rhodes both seem to be taking on early action off those opening numbers..good for us

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    damn it was down to -130, seems that was the low buying point..i would have taken that if it was parlayable

    yeah i would have lost on trucks last week because i would have had him there had i bet it

    I see Gragson and Rhodes both seem to be taking on early action off those opening numbers..good for us
    Oh, you are right.

    Wonder what made me think it was -200


    Trucks Stratosphere 200

    Kyle Busch -130
    Johnny Sauter +600
    Noah Gragson +775
    Matt Crafton +850
    Ben Rhodes +1000
    Brett Moffitt +2250
    John Hunter Nemechek +2250
    Field (any other driver) +2500
    Justin Haley +2750
    Spencer Davis +2750
    Grant Enfinger +3300
    Myatt Snider +5500
    Dalton Sargeant +5500
    Stewart Friesen +5500
    Cody Coughlin +20000
    Austin Hill +30000

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    It may have been, opened at -170 so its been moving

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    Blaney (+2000)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    Blaney (+2000)
    reason behind this was just the odds were too good for me to pass up. has finished 6th and 7th in his 2 races here and now hes with the team with the best results last few years.

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    Stewart Friesen +5500 and Brett Moffitt +2250 both showing front running speed and also took a lot less laps to get there than most other teams during the first 2 practice sessions.

    Be interesting to see what they open back up at.

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    The fantasy setup going now sucks donkey dicks....We still can’t pick our drivers for Las Vegas. It’s Friday. It’s some AA fantasy nascar site who isn’t holding up to there end of the bargain. Not sure whose call this was but it’s a penetrating nightmare...I have the balls to say it. This is bad and I can’t believe more aren’t complaining

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    they were up monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by reigle9 View Post
    they were up monday
    No standings and can’t set lineups yet for Las Vegas...penetrating Busch league

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    Quote Originally Posted by GT21Megatron View Post
    The fantasy setup going now sucks donkey dicks....We still can’t pick our drivers for Las Vegas. It’s Friday. It’s some AA fantasy nascar site who isn’t holding up to there end of the bargain. Not sure whose call this was but it’s a penetrating nightmare...I have the balls to say it. This is bad and I can’t believe more aren’t complaining
    No one else is complaining because you have been able to make picks for Las Vegas for days

    Click here: https://fantasyracingonline.net/our-...t/enter-picks/

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    Take that back....I can do it now...Thursday at 10:40

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