[Vegas39]

I suppose, but this race just seems to wide open for him to be 2nd choice but WTFDIK.

Yes Kenseth and him have work to do

[Slimpickens]

Yep but atleast Kenseth is 16-1. Now Jimmy is co 3rd choice let's see what happens with the odds overnight.

[Optional]

Larson copping a little flack on twitter

https://twitter.com/search?q=larson%...yhill&src=typd

[Vegas39]

Yep but atleast Kenseth is 16-1. Now Jimmy is co 3rd choice let's see what happens with the odds overnight.

Wouldn't shock me if he gets bet down to fave

[Vegas39]

Larson copping a little flack on twitter

https://twitter.com/search?q=larson%...yhill&src=typd

most of them probably never heard of Berryhill before tonight

[Optional]

most of them probably never heard of Berryhill before tonight

And the rest are probably his family

[Vegas39]

And the rest are probably his family

[Slimpickens]

Anyone with an opinion on how you think the Penske Fords will fair tommorow night Id love to hear opinions. I have no clue. They were junk last year at Darlington.

[Vegas39]

Anyone with an opinion on how you think the Penske Fords will fair tommorow night Id love to hear opinions. I have no clue. They were junk last year at Darlington.

I do think they fair better than last year . Both have win so may take senseless risks

[5mike5]

What do these books think the 48 is is super man?? How is he still second choice starting as a back marker. Not saying he cant win I actually wanted to take him, but he would have to drift up significantly.

yes they do...no matter even at tracks like michigan, hes the fav EVERY SINGLE YEAR and never even won there

i dont care ho well u run at a place, if u cant WIN THE RACE ur no use to me

but u have to remember how stupid thee books are compared to the other sports....they are way behind the bettor...

but they also make a killing because still people bet, bets the favs who rarely EVER win these races

[5mike5]

Anyone with an opinion on how you think the Penske Fords will fair tommorow night Id love to hear opinions. I have no clue. They were junk last year at Darlington.

wouldnt make too much off anything from thee weekend, since track conditions will be totally different and basiclally 2 grooves and no1 was really testing them in practices anyways, not do they ever....

not saying i wont bet 1 of them, just saying they havent been good here, but most drivers either are really really good here year in and out, or stay outside the top 5 and never even get a chance up front

but remember, strategy CAN play a role at this racetrack and has many times to get a winner...and lots iof times the winner here hasnt had the best car, but the best car rarely ever wins at any track so that's not news

I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Slimpickens]

Just read your PM Mike. Did you see the odds are posted at dimes. Pretty rough IMO. Guess sportsbook was fairly close on most. Unfortunately.

[Slimpickens]

Well the Penske Fords are both under 9-1 so they certainly arent very appealing on that front. This race feels almost Talladega wide open to me.

[5mike5]

im hitting the sack for a few hours of sleep....i gotta get up in the morning and put in a full day of even more research and decisions and how to bet these guys i decide on...who i still am almost clueless and thats rare...

never easy to feel very confident about a Darlington race, and if u think u are ur fooling urself...because all the guys that are great, u cant bet them at the odds they will be at...but u can get creative and have a few extra...lets just hope the odds move a lot all day and especially 60 min and less b4 race time...i think some big moves will be made late odds wise and im keeping at least 1-2 options open i think....ill bet 1 maybe early and float looking every 5 minutes all day and see where things are trending....

IT GAMETIME BOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE SATURDAY NIGHT CUP RACING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[5mike5]

yeah i saw the odds, they will change dramtically all day tomorrow though...some odds will double in price by noon

just gotta be patient tomorrow imo on most, and get a few early if u want them and add-on more $ if u want if odds get better

gonn be an all-around tough day and tough race

[5mike5]

goodnight fellas, see ya tomorrow

[5mike5]

goodnight fellas, see ya tomorrow

wow wake up after 2.5 hours and stare at the celing another 30 minutes cant gp back to sleep even with a slight dose of drugs to help me, so after a measley 4 hours im back reading through my notebooks, looking at odds, ecte ect...same shit ill be doing the next 13.5 hrs til the race starts....talk about pathetic

must be RACEDAY

[5mike5]

6 drivers in single digit odds yet only 4 have even won a race here

nascar oddsmakers are laughable

[5mike5]

and we shouldnt have any tire issues this week....darlington was just repaved 7 years ago so its far from the rough ass surface it once was, plus natrionwide didnt have but maybe 1 if that and the are running the exact same tire as the cup cars will tonight...

******which is another handicapping tool u might want to just glance over, is who has done wrose and better since the 2007 repave of this Darlington racetrack....some very telling stats if u take a close look

[Optional]

Geez. Someone wet the bed I think. Up before 6am for a night race!

[5mike5]

Geez. Someone wet the bed I think. Up before 6am for a night race!

not sure why honestly...have sleep issues sometimes its not the race....even though i still have a TON of work to do and figure out ect ect, but parlays with winners and all the props, h2hs, arent even up for another few hours....still only haveDENNY HAMLIN and long-shot Kyle Larson so far...so that tells u the rest of all my singles and my 2 parlays with winner(or combos) and maybe even a long-shot h2h parlay for some fun

this race almost seems like trying pick a talladega winner like some1 else said except the odds are some of the worst ive EVER seen in my life..def parlaying a winner or 2......but those will change ALOT during the day...some will move 10 points hours b4 the race even starts up....5dimes doesn't even have all the drivers up yet either which make a odds diff too

after the morning rush and a good breakfast, im gonna probably dose myself and sleep for another solid 3-4 hours during the down part of the day so im fresh for tonight and my final and most crucial decisions...my LAST picks....but i have alot of plays and race stratgies to figure out b4 that

[5mike5]

not to mention i actually had some1 texting me after 3am tonight my time asking things about the Cup race...i mean really?!

its a night race the question could have been anwsered 10 hrs LATER...oh well im sure they didnt mean harm but shit

[Optional]

not sure why honestly...have sleep issues sometimes its not the race....even though i still have a TON of work to do and figure out ext ect, but parlayables and all the props arent even up for another few hours....still only have HAMLIN and longshot Larson so far...so that tells u the rest of all my singles and my 2 parlays with winner(or combos) and maybe even a longshot h2h parlay for some fun, that ive been waitiing to start up again

this race almost seems like trying pick a talladega winner like some1 else said except the odds are some of thr worst ive EVER seen in my life...but those will change ALOT during the day...some will move 10 points hours b4 the race even starts up....5dimes doesnt even have all the drivers up yet either which make a odds diff too

after the morning rush and a good breakfast, im gonna probably dose myself and sleep for another solid 3-4 hours during the down part of the day so im fresh for tonight and my final and most crucial decisions...my LAST picks....but i have alot of plays and race stratgies to figure out b4 that

Feel the same way. Tough to decide on a winner. Hamlin and Gordo for me, but without any real confidence.

One thing I have been wanting to say for a couple of weeks is, we need to keep a close eye on Smoke. He's 16/1 for the Cup now but you just know he will win a race sometime. We havent seemed to mention it the last year or two that i recall, but he is known for slow starts to the season and coming good as it heats up, plus that amazing chase performance in 2011 winning half the races out of nowhere all year to take the cup... Wish he was more like 20/1 or more but thinking it might be worth a future before he wins one as he is going to be half those odds come September almost for certain imho.

not to mention i actually had some1 texting me after 3am tonight my time asking things about the Cup race...i mean really?!

its a night race the question could have been anwsered 10 hrs LATER...oh well im sure they didnt mean harm but shit

HA... send back a string of texts asking silly questions starting about 7.00am

[5mike5]

Great point about smoke ( 1 of only 2 track atewart has NEVER won at is darlington tough btw) but in future I totally agree. When the tracks get hotter and the summer starts to get here after the the first 3 months he usually comes ALIVE like a storm and we will be getting great odds on him til he wins 1-2 races. Good observation opti. I'm also considering ur other pick besides Hamlin I already have even though I hate betting Gordon I mean he loses races he should win more than any driver I have ever seen. Wish he was more like 10-1 but here hey a stud and finishes top 5 almost every damn race here. Hard to pass up a guy u KNOW will be in te mix when it counts. Has a win but bit bit since repave I dot think but wasn't that long ago. I might bet him single or would really rather parlay him with a h2h. Still debating but 2 solid plays imo for u so far. Same wih Denny he's just amazing here. Some drivers just get this place from the first time they strap in the seat. And those 2 are 2 of the BEST. And others never get it and there are plenty of those too.
Also our current odds on fav harvick has Never won here either. He's an auto fade for me today probably. Can't see me taking him unless somethin convinced me and def wouldn't never bet him single

[Optional]

Agree fully about Gordo. As many times as Harvick will pop up at the end and win, Gordo will seem to just not have enough at the finish.

Also think the odds are too low really too.

[5mike5]

Yeah I think a lot will be better but don't how odds are god awful. i think denny hamlin dedf. has best value at 11-1 and might bet better. I hope so. Taking more at. 11/1 just in case they dont but hope they do

[5mike5]

odds are aready shifting all over the place.....i dropped denny a little and gordon went up, logano up already......jimmie went str8 past harvick to the favorite which is no surprise as harvick shouldnt be there in the 1st place...

i knew this was gonna happen fast and furious, and i see it probably settling down in an hour or 2 then start back up again later this afternoon...time for a nap then....just now getting some breakfast in me

hopefully parlayables are up by noon with all the other stuff

[Sgt.Pem]

Alright boys! Its raceday!! Love this track, wish they didn't take away the 2nd race here.

5dimes has their first round of matchups posted, as I'm sure you guys know. Who we liking?

I bet Newman over Kurt Busch earlier this morning. I think Newman has a good day, and I just don't trust Kurt too much right now. Of course now that I say that I'm sure he'll win the race lol.

I've got Edwards +135 over Kahne...I'm thinking about firing on that...what do you guys think? I don't think Kahne needs to be a 165 fav over anyone at this track.

[5mike5]

I'm not a big h2h guy I focus more in race winners for more $. I usually just bet an parlay of underdogs if anything. And I parlay 1 h2h sometimes with a race winner. So my advice wouldn't help much.

Later in the year I'll start doing 1-3 h2hs ill max a few times single just not this early in the season

yisman been doing pretty damn good at them but all of them won't even be posted for hours yet. See what he likes.

Somebody else that doesn't bet that many a week been doing very well too but I can't remember who it is right off hand

[5mike5]

and BTW:

theres several guys i didnt get back to on PM this week and it wasnt intentional i just get over whelmed sometimes with PMs here and phone calls about racing stuff, and i ended up erasing them all last night accidentally when i was hal;f asleep so u can PM me again if u like and i apologize...

[shaunovery]

Already played

Kasey k +2000
Larson + 3000
Denny h +1100

[5mike5]

gotta play larson as a longshot imo...why the hell not...i took him early in week at 55-1 and added some 30-1 but didnt max again yet cause i think he might get better and i didnt want to drive him down til i see which way he goes

and i think his odds get even better but i had some there too already and will add-on of course if he gets even better...

im thinking that way and being patient..odds are gonna be all over today and u just have to strike at the right time..but me, ill just bet them again..LOL...

i still have all kinds of decisions to make on single race winners, parlay winners, and maybe a regular h2h/prop parlay....gonna make this a fun night...after 1 of my biggest weekend in my career last week im ready for ANOTHER BIG WEEKEND!!!!

with every1 else in the winners circle celebrating tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Vegas39]

not to mention i actually had some1 texting me after 3am tonight my time asking things about the Cup race...i mean really?!

its a night race the question could have been anwsered 10 hrs LATER...oh well im sure they didnt mean harm but shit

that wasn't me

[5mike5]

that wasn't me

no and i dont care when u do it im usually up and we are talking,

but this wasn't some1 that i even talk to 1 time a month and hes just wanted to suck information out of me like some 3am hooker without getting paid

[Vegas39]

no and i dont care when u do it im usually up and we are talking,

but this wasn't some1 that i even talk to 1 time a month and hes just wanted to suck information out of me like some 3am hooker without getting paid

I know time differences and would never do that. Dont need your lady mad