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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post
    Hey guys, I dont really see the love for JPM. He has been out of open wheelers for 7 years, and out of Indycars for 14 years. I dont think he is going to re-adapt very easily or quickly. Im not saying he will be slow but I cant see him finding those last few tenths to compete for a win at least not straight away.

    So having said that, for Indy I have taken:
    Power to WIN @ 4.50 x0.5u
    Helio @ 1.83 vs JPM x1u
    Even with time away I think he will be in mix each race. Very talented and will be driving with chip on shoulder with something to prove

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Even with time away I think he will be in mix each race. Very talented and will be driving with chip on shoulder with something to prove
    dennis text or call me when the Indy race is or starts this week i wanted to see how Montoya looks 1st time out....even if its during the cup race ill look during commercials or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Last year, when they finished the race 1st and 2nd, during P1 and P2 red bull were 7kph slower than the the fastest cars through the speed trap. This year they were 11kph slower.

    Kravitz pointed out a bunch of times that red bull appear to be kinder to their tyres than the other front runners. Both Merc drivers in post practice interviews went on about how 'massive' the tyre degradation was.

    Between closing the top speed gap, fuel efficiency, tyre wear and corner speed advantages I think the opposite of you about red bull. They should be way more competitive than Melbourne. I'd bet they show both the Williams and Maccas a clean pair of heels on race pace over the distance.

    Pace that cant be used due to fuel and tyres won't be much use on Sunday.
    looks like you are right might they seem real competitive so far and the best of the bunch with regards to tyre wear.

    Enjoy qualy. I'm going to miss it but will catch asap later, interested to see how it plays out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MatI View Post

    looks like you are right might they seem real competitive so far and the best of the bunch with regards to tyre wear.

    Enjoy qualy. I'm going to miss it but will catch asap later, interested to see how it plays out.
    No rest for the wicked eh! ;-)

    Looking forward to P3 before I make a quali bet.

    The cars sound better on TV than they did in Melbourne. Wonder if that is the grandstands/environment or some electronic tweak with the world feed audio...

    You watching the v8s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Even with time away I think he will be in mix each race. Very talented and will be driving with chip on shoulder with something to prove
    i certainly hope so. Would be great story if he was a contender this year, and maybe some agro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    No rest for the wicked eh! ;-)

    Looking forward to P3 before I make a quali bet.

    The cars sound better on TV than they did in Melbourne. Wonder if that is the grandstands/environment or some electronic tweak with the world feed audio...

    You watching the v8s?
    The times I have been to Sepang for F1 it has felt louder then it does in Melb as well. I think maybe just because more time at full throttle and track is in a natural bowl shape helping to trap the sound a bit. Not sure though but is noticeable.

    Starting work now so will miss V8's and the rest, havent added anything more and will ride it out until race day at this stage. GL

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    Opti, are you watching the race?

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    Any H2H or other plays for the F1 race gentlemen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by milehigh View Post
    Any H2H or other plays for the F1 race gentlemen?
    what time is the race my time this week? (east coast)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    what time is the race my time this week? (east coast)
    It's a fabulous start time 11am. EST.

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    thanks slim!

    yeah i might watch a few minutes...they usually put me right to sleep again

    hopefully they pass this year...last years very few races i watched a few minutes of were full of 10 sec lead snore fests

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    Im far from an expert on f1 and would like to hear some others opinion on matchups. Alonso over Vettel looks good to me, and maybe ricciardo over vettel at +160
    Mercedes -1400 to win the race
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    The two Vettel h2h fades might be worth a shot.

    he qualified so far down because right at the end of 3rd practice he spun off and may have damaged something. Car would not run as it had previously when he went out for quali.

    Cars are in parc ferme until race time so they can't touch it.

    I would not put a lot of money against him though. If they manage to find and fix the issue Vettel will carve through the field ahead of him.

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    The two Force India drivers are a much better chance at snagging fastest lap than their odds suggest.

    Nico Hulkenberg +2200
    Sergio Perez +3300
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    I took Ricciardo for Top 6 +300 early.

    Still liking that a lot. Down to +200 now.

    He was clearly the 'best of the rest' after Mercedes when it came to short run pace and long run is supposed to be their strength right now.

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    Sun 4/6 7701 Nico Rosberg -125
    11:00AM 7702 Lewis Hamilton +105

    Have to take Hamilton there. He outdrove Rosberg during the race by an almost embarrassing margin last race. People are putting too much credence in Rosberg's back to back pole positions here.


    Sun 4/6 7703 Valtteri Bottas -170
    11:00AM 7704 Felipe Massa +150


    Bottas has looked faster than Massa so far this year, but also has been more reckless.

    Kinda sorta expect Bottas to win out again this week, but it's much more like a coin flip imho. Massa +odds ar the only choice.


    Sun 4/6 7705 Kimi Raikkonen -145
    11:00AM 7706 Fernando Alonso +125

    Too hard. Alonso is another one that developed a car issue during quali and is stuck not able to touch the car in parc ferme.

    Could not take Kimi with that juice on this years form unless you are banking on Alonso car being cactus. Can not take Alonso in case car is cactus.


    Sun 4/6 7707 Jenson Button -175
    11:00AM 7708 Kevin Magnussen +155

    Button should take care of business in race. Too juicy fr my taste though



    Sun 4/6 7709 Sebastian Vettel -170
    11:00AM 7710 Daniel Ricciardo +150

    Like the Ferrari matchup, you have to bank on Vettel having car problems to seriously take Ricciardo starting behind him on grid. But no way you can justify -170 on Seb with the questions over his car.



    Sun 4/6 7711 Daniil Kvyat -150
    11:00AM 7712 Jean-Eric Vergne +130

    Kvyat is in Vergne's head and baring outside influences Kyvat is the bet at-150



    Sun 4/6 7713 Esteba-150
    11:00AM 7714 Adrian Sutil +130

    Guituerrez is similar to Torro Rosso situation... in Sutil's head badly. Sutil has been whining about weight restrictions being unhealthy and claims he wont carry a water bottle to save weight. beaten in most sessions by Guitierrez this year and has been giving a griod penalty for driving like a dufus in quali. Guy is just out of sorts and I would not be surprised to see team dump him mid season. Anyway, Juicy Gutierrez is the bet.


    Sun 4/6 7715 Kamui Kobayashi -240
    11:00AM 7716 Marcus Ericsson +200

    Kamui is kicking the other back markers ass. Cant take those odds on anyone ina Catherham though...


    Sun 4/6 7719 Romain Grosjean -155
    11:00AM 7720 Pastor Maldonado +135

    Who will retire first?


    Sun 4/6 7721 Nico Hulkenberg +100
    11:00AM 7722 Daniel Ricciardo -120

    Now this is a good matchup. Toss a coin!


    Sun 4/6 7723 Valtteri Bottas -165
    11:00AM 7724 Kimi Raikkonen +145

    Bottas has the car to win this one and starting 2 spots ahead of Kimi really helps. I dunno. I dont trust Kimi to perform in the new car yet.



    Sun 4/6 7725 Fernando Alonso +100
    11:00AM 7726 Sebastian Vettel -120

    If we knew his car was right... we should be pounding Vettel here. But both have question marks over their rides.. so have to be a pass.


    Sun 4/6 7729 Felipe Massa -125
    11:00AM 7730 Sergio Perez +105

    Lovin' Perez to have a good race. He feels great about car balance and was surprised how fast he was compared to other teams. Massa probably has the better car but guy is a tad fragile mentally and will be feeling under big pressure to beat his team mate today. (after last race team orders debacle at Williams). This scenario is not good for Massa.




    Best bets Hamiton +105 over Rosberg and Perez +105 over Massa

    Parlay Kyvat -150 over Vergne with Gutierrez -150 over Sutil



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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    The two Force India drivers are a much better chance at snagging fastest lap than their odds suggest.

    Nico Hulkenberg +2200
    Sergio Perez +3300
    i tailed those 2 for fastest lap so ill have a bet on the race at least...

    thanks buddy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post

    i tailed those 2 for fastest lap so ill have a bet on the race at least...

    thanks buddy...
    Good luck mate. Would love to get that one this week!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac926 View Post
    Mercedes -1400 to win the race
    That's probably good odds. No one else really has a chance to beat either one on track yet. And the chance of both wrecking or breaking down is more than 14/1 I think.

    Not that I bet -1400 shots personally.

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    What do you think about ricciardo over Vettel or top 6

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    Nice analysis optional. Will alonso's team be able to diagnose the problem before the race?
    Tailed u on the fast lap plays, perez and the parlay except took bottas over massa instead, mainly because of track position.
    That first lap first turn gives me a heart attack every race.
    Gut feeling rosberg wins the race so ill leave that one alone.

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    Shit nevermind I went back and looked, how do I delete stupid posts

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    Quote Originally Posted by homervdoh View Post
    What do you think about ricciardo over Vettel or top 6
    I took it at +300 early in week. Think it's a good chance to hit even from 13th on grid.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac926 View Post
    Nice analysis optional. Will alonso's team be able to diagnose the problem before the race?
    Tailed u on the fast lap plays, perez and the parlay except took bottas over massa instead, mainly because of track position.
    That first lap first turn gives me a heart attack every race.
    Gut feeling rosberg wins the race so ill leave that one alone.
    It's hard to know if Ferrari can fix it before racetime J. The cars are supposed to bee impounded but there are some things the rules allow them to change. I havent heard any word on exactly what it is that went wrong. It could be as simple as a software glitch that will be fixed with a reboot. His car just lost power in the Q3 was all he said.

    Vettel could have a more serious issue with the car though. He struggled through all the quali sessions after the late off in final practice. So whatever it was the team didn't notice whilst prepping the car for quali. meaning it might be chassis damage they wont have any chance to fix.

    It'll be a strange turn around from last week if Rosberg can beat Ham in a straight race suddenly this week I think. Obviously a lot of people don't agree with that as Hamilton still +115 to beat Rosberg as we approach race time!

    Good luck mate

    Quote Originally Posted by homervdoh View Post
    Shit nevermind I went back and looked, how do I delete stupid posts
    if you don't see an "edit post" link at the bottom of your recent posts... then you probably need more posts before it becomes available.

    We won't hold one against you though ;-)

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    This F1 race has been exciting so far. Great battle for the lead between teammates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmac926 View Post
    This F1 race has been exciting so far. Great battle for the lead between teammates
    Yep...I did a crazy H2H parlay that isn't looking bad so far. Need Hamilton to pull out the win for a GREAT start for me before the Sprint Cup Race.

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    Williams and Force India 3-6 all under a blanket. Whole field pretty close besides mercedes, there gone lol

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    Hulkenburg sets fastest lap with 19 to go

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    Taking Bottas instead of Perez > Massa is looking like a good decision so far JM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Hulkenburg sets fastest lap with 19 to go
    Kicking myself for not even throwing $10 on those two plays...GL guys! Opti I need Perez to get back by Massa for my H2H parlays...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Hulkenburg sets fastest lap with 19 to go
    Rosberg going to be flying with those softs. Hopefully this post jinxes him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Hulkenburg sets fastest lap with 19 to go
    LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    id would owe u 1 for that 1 mate....as u know that only bets ive ever made in F1 were fasteest laps last season and never won a single 1 yet with the iceman every week....

    i threw just $20 bucks on them both for fun, but would be pretty damn nice payouts for me tailing u on an F1 race...but i don't expect to win by any means, too many laps left but fun habing a chance with small risk/big reward plays alive

    REALLY MIGHT BE MY WEEKEND if THIS SHIT HAPPENS

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    Damnit this caution screws me with Hamilton...damnit!

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    i dont understand ANY of this F1 lingo..tried to learn and give thisd sport a chance last season and its just not got me...i couldnt even make it through 1 race...but others love it so must be great i just dontr get it..just not enough actual racing going on

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    Quote Originally Posted by milehigh View Post
    Damnit this caution screws me with Hamilton...damnit!
    yeah it screwed be on bottas as well. I doubt he can pass massa now

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    Damn hamilton

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