[5mike5]

Alright boys were already back to our 2nd trip to DAYTONA for the 4th of July weekend night races!!!! the nationwide will be racing Friday night with the cup series race on Saturday night! one of the best weekends of the year imo, and cant wait already!!!

Already started my usual research, but being the 2nd time around to this track this year, ive already made all my notes except for the 500 this year so wont need to re-watch all the past races just look over my track and driver notebooks again to refresh my memory, but my restrictor plate rosters never varies too much, depending on which of the 2 they are racing at...have great luck with them usually so just stick to basics and add on longershots...

GOODLUCK this week everybody and lets hit 'em big again on the plate races this weekend!!!

[5mike5]

no roster is as fun to pick as a plate race roster

[Vegas39]

Quite the nationwide field

[onlooker]

Date	Event	Time	Radio/TV
THURS 7/4	Nationwide Series Practice	2:30 p.m. - 5:30 p.m	SPEED
	Sprint Cup Series Practice	4:00 p.m.- 5:20 p.m.	SPEED
	Nationwide Series Final Practice	5:30 p.m. - 6:25 p.m.	SPEED
	Sprint Cup Series Final Practice	6:35 p.m. - 8:00 p.m.	SPEED
FRI 7/5	Nationwide Series Qualifying	2:05 p.m.	ESPN2
	Sprint Cup Series Qualifying	4:10 p.m.	MRN/SPEED
	Radio Pre-Race	7:00 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	7:00 p.m.	ESPN
	Nationwide Series	7:30 p.m.	MRN/ESPN
SAT 7/6	Radio Pre-Race	6:30 p.m.	MRN
	TV Pre-Race	6:30 p.m.	TNT
	Sprint Cup Series	7:30 p.m.	MRN/TNT

ALL TIMES EASTERN

[JayHorne3]

Only a 150-1 winner at the last plate race, No pressure for a repeat Mike

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Does a restrictor plate help or hurt the Toyota engine issues?

[5mike5]

Only a 150-1 winner at the last plate race, No pressure for a repeat Mike

Not sure ill ever have another 1 of those. Lol. Might be 5 years til 100-1 wins any race again!

[shaunovery]

Does a restrictor plate help or hurt the Toyota engine issues?

gotta think it will hurt , kenseth leading the 500 then engine trouble

[5mike5]

I'm not at all worried about Toyota engines anymore. They are back to being fast and Hendricks has had more problems than JGR has with engines the last month. I mean any engine can blow on a plate track

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Hopefully you are right. Wonder what percentage of original power they have now.

gotta think it will hurt , kenseth leading the 500 then engine trouble

Sounds logical

Edit: actually I was thinking the lower power might help them before I posted.

[5mike5]

They aren't running but maybe single digit lower, it just doesn't make any diff at those #s. all teams have that much difference. Probably back to normal. No way I would leave off a driver now worrying about that

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Interesting list of best by avg driver ratings at the last 17 Daytona races from Jayski;


Top 12 Driver Rating at Daytona:
Kyle Busch................................. 97.0
Matt Kenseth.............................. 93.2
Tony Stewart.............................. 93.1
Dale Earnhardt Jr....................... 89.3
Jeff Gordon................................ 88.3
Kurt Busch................................. 88.0
Clint Bowyer............................... 86.6
Jimmie Johnson......................... 85.3
Jeff Burton................................. 84.9
Denny Hamlin............................. 84.5
Ryan Newman............................ 82.8
Carl Edwards............................. 82.7

Note: Driver Ratings compiled from 2005-2013 races (17 total) among active drivers at Daytona International Speedway. Formula combining the following categories: Wins, Finishes, Top-15 Finishes, Average Running Position While on Lead Lap, Average Speed Under Green, Fastest Lap, Led Most Laps, Lead-Lap Finish. Maximum: 150 points per race.(NASCAR)

[5mike5]

Guess its just what each person thinks is best. No right anwser really

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Wasn't suggesting it was useful, or not. Just that it was an interesting list.

A few names I would have expected not up there. And a couple I would not have thought of

[5mike5]

Wasn't suggesting it was useful, or not. Just that it was an interesting list.

A few names I would have expected not up there. And a couple I would not have thought of

oh my post wasn't in response to the list opti . I agree its interesting. My last was meaning the engine discussion

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Actually I do think it's significant that Kyle has managed to average a 97 rating over that that many races. Especially when you see the gap to the rest of the best. I don't usually think of him as a super speedway expert.

I'm not sure they are perect, but i do think the driver ratings do you give a pretty good idea of how the guy ran overall that you cant see any other way.

[Vegas39]

Couple on that list Opti that surprise me. Burton for one though he missed winning Dega a few years back by a fender. Kurt a good plate racer just no damn luck it seems

[Vegas39]

Pretty crappy odds at LVH here for a plate race

MATT KENSETH 8
DALE EARNHARDT JR 10
KEVIN HARVICK 12
KYLE BUSCH 12
JIMMIE JOHNSON 12
CLINT BOWYER 15
KASEY KAHNE 15
JEFF GORDON 15
TONY STEWART 15
BRAD KESELOWSKI 18
DENNY HAMLIN 18
CARL EDWARDS 18
MARTIN TRUEX JR 18
KURT BUSCH 18
GREG BIFFLE 20
JOEY LOGANO 25
JAMIE McMURRAY 25
JEFF BURTON 30
PAUL MENARD 30
RYAN NEWMAN 30
JUAN MONTOYA 30
DANICA PATRICK 30
MICHAEL WALTRIP 30
MARCOS AMBROSE 40
RICKY STENHOUSE JR 40
ARIC ALMIROLA 50
TREVOR BAYNE 50
DAVID GILLILAND 75
DAVID RAGAN 75
AJ ALLMENDINGER 75
BOBBY LABONTE 100
DAVE BLANEY 200
TRAVIS KVAPIL 200
FIELD 30

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32% vig in that market. Not near the worst we will see.

[5mike5]

Yeah those Are not very good odds I agree. Hopefully they get better by raceday. Could be worse though.

[Vegas39]

Couple things jumped out at me

No one should be single digits on a plate track

Danica same odds as Waltrip

[5mike5]

Odds on everybody besides top 5-10 favs on raceday will fall through the floor offshore.

well besides who we are on that is.

[Vegas39]

very true mike

[5mike5]

Couple things jumped out at me

No one should be single digits on a plate track

Danica same odds as Waltrip

Ur right, no1 should be. But not surprised he is the 1 that is though. Doubt he's less than 9 or 10-1 anywhere there or offshore. Actually don't think any of those odds will be that off anywhere for openers probably

[onlooker]

Kenseth is 10/1 at WillHillLV. Everyone is 10/1 and up there.

[Vegas39]

Looker any chance you can post stations odds

[onlooker]

Looker any chance you can post stations odds

Let me check again. They haven't posted as of 10:30.

[onlooker]

They posted V39. But holy sh!t are they bad. Let me see if I can easily post these screenshots.

[Vegas39]

thanks buddy

[onlooker]

Let me just say. They have Harvick 5/1.

[Vegas39]

oh shit

[5mike5]

[Vegas39]

not dragging my ass out in 115 heat for that

[onlooker]

not dragging my ass out in 115 heat for that

There are like 5 single digit odds.

I can't post pics easily from my phone, I'll do it when I get home. Who do you want to know. PM me if need be.