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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post

    i guess but how much can they really dial it down here?

    cant imagine any1 wants to be a tick slower here just in case of fuel mileage

    not sure its ever smart to do that, unless u can have both which maybe impossible

    just what he said he was hearing
    I guess if they think they can stop 5 or 6 laps earlier than everyone on last stop they will get the time advantage on newer tires for those laps, plus being able to play the fuel game better if stuck pitting at same time last stop.

    I guess anyway.

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    i would be down alot if i didnt stop betting most every other sport besides nascar....and football i still bet about every weekend, but even scaled that back...but pretty much nothing else

    i use to bet everything until few years ago...i was an action junkie for sure

    but finally realized im not good enough at all those other sports, terrible actually
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    also read last weekend at Pocono, TRD engines ran 22-24 less horsepower than usual

    this weekend at Michigan, it will be 12-15 less horsepower than usual

    *****M.Martin will be the only Toyota running on maximum horsepower this weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    also read last weekend at Pocono, TRD engines ran 22-24 less horsepower than usual

    this weekend at Michigan, it will be 12-15 less horsepower than usual

    *****M.Martin will be the only Toyota running on maximum horsepower this weekend
    just couldn't bet them until full horses underneath the bonnet
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    also read last weekend at Pocono, TRD engines ran 22-24 less horsepower than usual

    this weekend at Michigan, it will be 12-15 less horsepower than usual

    *****M.Martin will be the only Toyota running on maximum horsepower this weekend
    Only Toyota I was looking at was Kenseth. He may get left off if I can't get a good price.

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    What's with all these gross anti-smoking ads every ad break?!

    (as he lights up another ciggie)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What's with all these gross anti-smoking ads every ad break?!

    (as he lights up another ciggie)
    To try and scare your ass to stop smoking. Not worth it, and a money burner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    To try and scare your ass to stop smoking. Not worth it, and a money burner.
    The cigarette racks down here look like a horror movie and I'm told they have made zero difference to sales.


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    I like to choose the packs that harm unborn babies.

    Those type won't affect me I figure.

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    my god those are scary. Yikes

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    Hopefully they will discourage new smokers at least. Too early to know yet though.

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    Well I'm toast in Shaun's golf contest

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    Damn I forgot to enter it

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    Got one missing cut for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Well I'm toast in Shaun's golf contest
    +15 here too

    After ending day 1 play at -1 too!

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    Adam Scott killed me today and had a bet on him to win too

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    Yeah me too, on Scott for cash.

    Webb Simpson did even worse to drill a stake through my heart.



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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Carl Edwards +1500 (SC)

    Hit it after he ran 202 mph during qualifying. Because they will drop him.
    Stations dropped him to 8/1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Only Toyota I was looking at was Kenseth. He may get left off if I can't get a good price.
    Stations moved Kenseth to 10/1. Let's see what WillHillLV opens back up with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Stations dropped him to 8/1.
    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    Stations moved Kenseth to 10/1. Let's see what WillHillLV opens back up with.
    WillHillLV reopened with Edwards at +550.

    Kenseth at +1200.

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    +550 for edwards ?!



    good grief can u say overreaction...every book will but +550...sheeesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    +550 for edwards ?!



    good grief can u say overreaction...every book will but +550...sheeesh
    Stations down to 7/1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    +550 for edwards ?!



    good grief can u say overreaction...every book will but +550...sheeesh

    If you got a pole I couldn't get you under 8-1 here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    If you got a pole I couldn't get you under 8-1 here
    understand on some drivers, but not edwards

    yikes

    he should never be under 10-1 imo i dont care where he starts....

    he will be overreacted everywhere offshore too, not just there but 7-1 and 5.5-1...

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    sad thing is there must always be a ALOT suckers that bet the pole driver every week no matter what or they wouldnt all do it

    fun to make fun of them every week though...lol

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    Part also a book overreaction on how well Roush cars ran here before repave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Part also a book overreaction on how well Roush cars ran here before repave
    yep

    toyota sure didnt look slow either

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    yep

    toyota sure didnt look slow either
    nope I agree wonder if blowing smoke that not running full capacity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    nope I agree wonder if blowing smoke that not running full capacity
    i dont know too much about how much 12-15 will matter, doesnt look like much

    if its fuel mileage (which is very likely) might help

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    Fuel mileage very likely

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5mike5 View Post
    sad thing is there must always be a ALOT suckers that bet the pole driver every week no matter what or they wouldnt all do it

    fun to make fun of them every week though...lol
    I wanted Edwards before he got the pole, but when I seen him run 202, I hit him before Stations adjusted. There was still half the field that needed to run. But I had the feeling that speed would hold.

    Betting him at +550 is comical, but betting him at +1500 is value.

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    What are the popular picks for the Nationwide race tomorrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    What are the popular picks for the Nationwide race tomorrow?

    2000 Napaonline.com 250 was the last time a NW driver won at Michigan.


    Last year James Beuscher (Steve Turner) had the speed to challenge Logano on the final lap.

    I'd say Kyle Busch (Joe Gibbs), Joey Logano (Roger Penske), and Paul Menard (Richard Childress) should battle for the win. You have potential NW upset winners with an outside shot in Trevor Bayne (Jack Roush), Austin Dillon (Richard Childress) and Kyle Larson (Harry Scott Jr.). Winner should definitely come from these 2 groups of three, more likely a cup driver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onlooker View Post
    What are the popular picks for the Nationwide race tomorrow?
    Just back Dillon and save your money on anything else imho.

    Logano, Hornish and maybe KyleB to challenge... but only maybe.

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