1. 08-27-12 07:21 AM #1
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    Formula 1 - Spa-Francorchamps

    After 5 weeks off finally an F1 Grand Prix this weekend.

    Really tough to know who to pick early I think.

    Red Bull smashed the field last year, but either a McLaren or a Ferrari have won the previous 10 events.

    Kimi Raikonen has won 4 of his last 5 starts here. 2 in a McLaren and 2 in a Ferrari. (in fact he has won every race he has ever finished here... 3 DNFs)

    From what I have read Lotus, McLaren and Sauber think this track suits them well.

    Button and Perez sound extra confident about their prospects.

    Rosberg very consistent here and has never had the car the other drivers with top 6 averages have enjoyed.

    One of the few tracks Webber has better stats than Vettel.

    Alonso and Button have both DNFed more than 50% of starts here.

    Perez put in a Q3 quali performance last year and is talking up his chances and the car's capacity this year.


    I'm just not sure which way to go amongst the 4 favorites yet. Think there might be some early value in one of these as a backup if we can pick out the right one though.

    Grosjean +1100
    Button +1250
    Webber +1300
    Schumacher +4000
    Rosberg +4000
    Perez +10000


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    Lewis Hamilton +300
    Sebastian Vettel +400
    Kimi Raikkonen +500
    Fernando Alonso +550
    Romain Grosjean +1100
    Jenson Button +1250
    Mark Webber +1300
    Michael Schumacher +4000
    Nico Rosberg +4000
    Felipe Massa +8500
    Pastor Maldonado +10000
    Sergio Perez +10000
    Kamui Kobayashi +10000
    Nico Hulkenberg +25000
    Bruno Senna +25000
    Paul di Resta +25000



    Last 10 race winners



    3rd column is number of starters and 5th column is winner starting position.


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  2. 08-27-12 07:33 AM #2
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    F1 is back great

    Looking at the lotus apparently with the new double drs (drag reduction system) upgrades in place

    So kimi and grosjean early leans for me
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    A bit the same Shaun, but +500 for Kimi?
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    Will follow and take a stab at Kimi Thanks guys
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    I'm waiting for practice to bet any fave myself Vegas
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  6. 08-27-12 09:54 AM #6
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    I will keep an eye on your thoughts.

    Opti was super to see Briscoe win Indy race
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    kimi 6.6 at betfair grosjean 13.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    I will keep an eye on your thoughts.

    Opti was super to see Briscoe win Indy race
    I was pleased with the Aussie one-two But had 6 units on Power, which tempered my joy for Ryan a tad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I was pleased with the Aussie one-two But had 6 units on Power, which tempered my joy for Ryan a tad.

    went other way

    about damn time he won when I bet him
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    Sweet! Congrats.
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  11. 08-28-12 10:54 AM #11
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    Suggest anyone with a 5D account jump on this one.

    8/31/12 4:00am Motor Racing Formula 1 -120 Belgian Grand Prix - Top 6 Finish - Mark Webber

    Just got off live chat with 5D and confirmed it's not a line error.
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    Up to -140 but played it.

    Whats thoughts on retirement on first lap as yes +250
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    Cant wait!

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    Good info you have posted so far, Optional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Up to -140 but played it.

    Whats thoughts on retirement on first lap as yes +250
    There has been one for the last 3 years in a row. But not the 3 years before that. Kind of a coin flip I think, so I guess +250 is good. MatI will probably have something useful to add about it.

    Personally I like the pole sitter not to lead first lap amongst those coin flip props. And is usually similar sort of odds or better.
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    whats the safety car prop Opti
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    Can't fancy the safety car prop very unlikely at spa unless it rains
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    Looking at F1 props I wish they did first driver retirement for NASCAR
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    Can you imagine the problem with start n parkers betting on themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    Can't fancy the safety car prop very unlikely at spa unless it rains
    Hmm.. doesn't it always rain during any weekend at Spa?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Can you imagine the problem with start n parkers betting on themselves?

    What a twist that would bring Robby Gordon back and instantly 2-3 more cautions a race
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaunovery View Post
    F1 is back great

    Looking at the lotus apparently with the new double drs (drag reduction system) upgrades in place

    So kimi and grosjean early leans for me
    Really like the Lotus boys as well with the new DRS system. It should be a big boost for them at Spa and Monza next week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    There has been one for the last 3 years in a row. But not the 3 years before that. Kind of a coin flip I think, so I guess +250 is good. MatI will probably have something useful to add about it.
    I will dig up my SC stats in the next few minutes and post but I feel we have a race without Safety Car this weekend. Forecast is for a dry weekend too. Only real chance of rain at this stage is Friday practice.
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    My only bets so far.

    2 units on Hamilton +275
    1 unit on Vettel +400
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    Good luck this weekend Dad
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    Ted Kravitz does not like Lotus chances as much as the rest of us.

    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/...kkonen-s-hopes

    He says cold weather and hard tyres won't be helpful.
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    Wet P1 session.

    Interesting, maybe, Kobayashi was backed into favorite for fastest in session late on Betfair. Not a lot of money, but around $3.00 when Lewis was around $6.00.
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    Kobayashi sets the first fast time. Does more laps than anyone else. Fights with Maldonado for P1 about halfway through session when both were going 2 seconds faster than the rest of the field. And ends up top of time sheets.

    There was some info out there. Or Kobay bet on himself!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas39 View Post
    Good luck this weekend Dad
    Same to you Vegas!
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    Lotus won't be using the new double drs system as they could not test it in wet practice.
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    5 place grid penalty for Webber for a gearbox change.
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    WOW... Vettel misses Q3.

    Wishing I had bet on the two confident men right now. Button and Perez.

    Hamilton was too much wing on the car to take pole now I think.

    Button 1st, Perez 2nd, Kimi 3rd is my prediction right now. Will know in 10 mins.

    Mercs just awful. Rosberg out in Q1 and MS in Q2.
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    Put 5 bucks each on Webber 75/1 and Vettel 40/1, just for interest.

    But still tossing up if I want to go Button or Alonso for my main bet.

    the -120 for a Webber top6 isn't looking so great now. Sorry Vegas, but I still think he can do it. RBR will try and do an alt strategy I guess, could end up anywhere.
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    Only one bet for me.

    Kimi Podium @ 1.75

    I haven't been able to follow to closely, looks like it will be a great race.
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    Already took kimi @5-1 so covering with button +135
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