[onlooker]

[5mike5]

it was worth all the wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i love it when all the work during the week pays off like this

WOOHOO

[5mike5]

DEFINATLEY 1 of my top 2-3 largest prophits ever from nascar...and thats saying something

[SilverTongueFox]

Appreciate the help 5mike. Out the 10 I picked had 8 in top 11.
1 kennseth
3 biffle
4 hamlin
6 Menard
7 harvick
8 Edwards
9 lagono
11 Bowyer

[5mike5]

Appreciate the help 5mike. Out the 10 I picked had 8 in top 11. 1 kennseth 3 biffle 4 hamlin 6 Menard 7 harvick 8 Edwards 9 lagono 11 Bowyer

TY but dont thank me buddy...u made those bets!!!!

off to phoenix next weekend!!!!!!!!!!!

[SilverTongueFox]

5mike - can you explain your cover bets on kesleskowski?

[finfan88]

whats cover bets?

[5mike5]

5mike - can you explain your cover bets on kesleskowski?

when i say "cover" that just means if that driver wins the money i win would basically only "cover" all my wagers and not bring any prophit, or none to speak of anyways...just little security....i bet so much each race i like a few drivers to if they win covers all my wagers on prophit drivers...it has paid off several times last few years...when u bet as much as i do on these races, i like to have 2-4 "covering" drivers...

just depends on the odds how many i take, just like odds depend on how may "prophit" guys i select each week

[5mike5]

so lets say keslowsi or kyle would have won this race...then basically i would have got all my money back i bet on the race

if i was just betting a few 100 each week i wouldnt bother with a "cover" wager

[5mike5]

well im going to enjoy this MASSIVE win and wake up in the morning and get my Phoenix driver books and track notebook out and get to work for the week!!!!



WHAT A NIGHT!!!!!!

swaiting to get graded out to see just how big it is, but +2700 with several 100 on it will pay off a BIG prophit....

[finfan88]

ok thanks

[SilverTongueFox]

Got it. Thanks bro and congrats one the nice cash.

[5mike5]

ok thanks

Got it. Thanks bro and congrats one the nice cash.

TY and and no problem....

im ready to do it all over again starting tomorrow

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Mikey Mike... sending u a few points for a proffitable night!!! I won almost 5 units. Thank u my freiend!!!

[5mike5]

Mikey Mike... sending u a few points for a proffitable night!!! I won almost 5 units. Thank u my freiend!!!

oh thanks buddy!...im just glad i could help out....i dont like to be responsible for wins or loses, but im pumped u won buddy!!!!

5 units a great night 4 ya!!!!

hopefully we can do it again next weekend

[5mike5]

4got to even check my H2H parlay too...not offical but not sure about it...ill check in the morning.....

but its peanuts compared to the kennseth win so really doesnt matter i guess

[Optional]

And the NASCAR forum is a happy place!!

Congrats everyone who cashed.

Nice work Mike

[yisman]

Lars Anderson wrote in the SI preview of the Daytona 500:


"...and her car co-owner/teammate Tony Stewart has already said he'll be her drafting partner in the late stages of Sunday's race."

"With...Jeff Gordon leaning on his bumper on the final lap, Earnhardt is likely to end his drought to secure his second career Daytona 500 victory."



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That race sucked. Had Harvick and Burton in the thick of it, but there really wasn't much racing after the long delay. Mostly cautions.

[5mike5]

And the NASCAR forum is a happy place!! Congrats everyone who cashed. Nice work Mike

thank u Opti...great start to 2012 season!!!

[blackbeSSt]

mike, what advice would you give to people that are tailing your picks in regards to how much to wager. is flat betting the same amount per driver the best way to do it?

[5mike5]

mike, what advice would you give to people that are tailing your picks in regards to how much to wager. is flat betting the same amount per driver the best way to do it?

i mean im not sure really what advice to give...i dont bet the same amount on each driver or race...all depends on the odds and mt analysis of each driver/track...

probably all depends on how much money u are risking on the race/and how many drivers

[5mike5]

**ALSO WON MY H2H 3MATCHUP PARLAY ON THE 500 (POSTED ON MY ROSTER)

forgot to even look til this morning...LOL

WHAT A NIGHT!!!!


total prophit from daytona 500 wins: $2,388.55

(from kennseth +2700, and my only H2H parlay that was a winner too)

what a start

ill be starting my phoenix thread for this weekend soon...already been working this morning on phoenix...

[blackbeSSt]

i mean im not sure really what advice to give...i dont bet the same amount on each driver or race...all depends on the odds and mt analysis of each driver/track... probably all depends on how much money u are risking on the race/and how many drivers

so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh

[csavoia]

Hey guys I never bet NASCAR in my life and you come highly recommended Mike. How do you wager when you put your picks out here? Is it a system, or is thead to head? Any info or help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

chris

[Trident]

so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh

Will never happen.

[5mike5]

i add to bets all the time...there is no 1x or 2x or 5x...i dont set an amount...thats why im successful at it

[Trident]

so i guess we can't get a breakdown of how much you are wagering on each bet, even if just a 1x, 5x, 10x huh

i add to bets all the time...there is no 1x or 2x or 5x...i dont set an amount...thats why im successful at it

Will never happen.

Nice spin job.

Why can't you post what you bet on each driver once the race starts?

[5mike5]

i dont care what other wager and they shoulnt care what i wager...anybody that tails me so far has won money thats all i care about bud


if i dont post what u need dont troll my thread then...still lookin at the 500 thread...LOL

embarassing

thanks for the fanmail, but i got work to do for tomorrow

[Trident]

i guess i can didnt know any1 cared that much honestly...anybody that tails me so far has won money thats all i care about bud


if i dont post what u need dont troll my thread then...still lookin at the 500 thread...LOL

All you have to do is post it but you since you won't that tells me all I have to know.

[5mike5]

good deal

[sharpcat]

Nice spin job.

Why can't you post what you bet on each driver once the race starts?

Because Mike is living in a fantasy world, he knows a lot about NASCAR but does not understand squat about the math involved in gambling.

He does not understand that there is no way that 10-12 drivers can all have value in a market where the house has the odds juiced up to a 30% over round.

He does not understand that no system or way of structuring your bets can change a -EV wager to a +EV wager.

He bets 10 drivers per race which are all negatively correlated because only one driver can win, so when he bets a driver at +1200 he is really getting +300.

Mikes strategy of picking 10 drivers per race is great for giving you a great shot of picking a winner every week but there is absolutely no way that anyone could be profitable doing this, it is the same thing as betting heavy chalk you will win most weeks but when that bad run comes you will get buried.

[5mike5]

3+ years no bad streaks.....

[Trident]

Because Mike is living in a fantasy world, he knows a lot about NASCAR but does not understand squat about the math involved in gambling.

He does not understand that there is no way that 10-12 drivers can all have value in a market where the house has the odds juiced up to a 30% over round.

He does not understand that no system or way of structuring your bets can change a -EV wager to a +EV wager.

He bets 10 drivers per race which are all negatively correlated because only one driver can win, so when he bets a driver at +1200 he is really getting +300.

Mikes strategy of picking 10 drivers per race is great for giving you a great shot of picking a winner every week but there is absolutely no way that anyone could be profitable doing this, it is the same thing as betting heavy chalk you will win most weeks but when that bad run comes you will get buried.

prophit winners:(no order)
jimmy johnson(+900)
smoke(+850)
kahne(+1300)
newman(+2500)
hamlin(+1450)
harvick(+1200)
burton(+3300)

covering winners:
gordon(+1400)
biffle (+1800)
truex jr. (+4300)

3+ years no bad streaks.....

So show us how you or anyone can bet ten drivers in a race and come away with a huge win which you stated after last weeks race.

[5mike5]

if u cant figure that out i feel bad 4 ya bud

im in vegas for races...maybe next week ill give out lessons

[Trident]

if u cant figure that out i feel bad 4 ya bud

im in vegas for races...maybe next week ill give out lessons

You ever hear of the old saying " The Math Doesn't Lie "

Until you can prove that statement wrong I say you are the one who is lying.