1. 03-07-11 09:10 PM #1
    joeyp1222
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    Races left leading up to the derby

    stakes races leading to the derby that are left to go


    2011 Kentucky Derby
    Kentucky Derby 2011 Prep Race Schedule Date Race Racetrack Grade Dist Purse
    2011-05-07 Kentucky Derby Churchill Downs I 1 1/4 Miles $2,000,000
    2011-04-23 Jerome Aqueduct II 1 Mile $150,000
    2011-04-23 Coolmore Lexington Stakes Keeneland II 1 1/16 Miles $300,000
    2011-04-23 Withers Stakes Aqueduct III 1 Mile $150,000
    2011-04-23 Derby Trial Stakes Churchill Downs III 1 Mile $200,000
    2011-04-16 Toyota Blue Grass S Keeneland I 1 1/8 Miles $750,000
    2011-04-16 Arkansas Derby Oaklawn Park I 1 1/8 Miles $1,000,000,
    2011-04-09 Wood Memorial Stakes Aqueduct I 1 1/8 Miles $750,000
    2011-04-09 Santa Anita Derby Santa Anita I 1 1/8 Miles $750,000
    2011-04-03 Florida Derby Gulfstream Park I 1 1/8 Miles $750,000
    2011-04-03 Swale Stakes Gulfstream Park II 7 Furlongs $150,000
    2011-03-27 Sunland Derby Sunland Park III 1 1/8 Miles $800,000
    2011-03-26 UAE Derby Nad El Sheba II 1 1/8 Miles $2,000,000
    2011-03-26 Louisiana Derby Fair Grounds II 1 1/8 Miles $750,000
    2011-03-26 Rushaway Stakes Turfway Park II 1 1/16 Miles $100,000
    2011-03-19 Rebel Stakes Oaklawn Park II 1 1/16 Miles $300,000
    2011-03-19 Private Terms Stakes Laurel II 1 Mile $50,000
    2011-03-12 Palm Beach Stakes Gulfstream Park III 1 1/8 Miles Turf $150,000
    2011-03-12 San Felipe Stakes Santa Anita II 1 1/16 Miles $150,000,
    2011-03-12 Tampa Bay Derby Tampa Bay Downs II 1 1/16 Miles $350,000
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  2. 03-08-11 12:33 AM #2
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    I know that this may unpopular and it usually starts a big argument but the longer that I follow the thoroughbred racing the more that the "Kentucky Derby" is the most over hyped event in sports. From racing standpoint and especially from a breeding standpoint. It nevers settles who is the best 3yo.
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  3. 03-08-11 01:50 AM #3
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    Kentucky Derby is a hyped out event to get shitty horses to be far much more than their worth
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  4. 03-08-11 08:36 AM #4
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    It may be over hyped, and at the end of the day it may not decide the best 3yo (about 50-50), but everyone associated with the sport would give their left nut to win it. From a betting perspective, it is as good as it gets. A race where 17 of 20 entrants are more than 10-1 opens the door for massive payouts in the exotics.
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  5. 03-08-11 09:19 AM #5
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    2011-03-26 UAE Derby Nad El Sheba II 1 1/8 Miles $2,000,000

    THIS IS THE RACE IM CURIOUS ABOUT WHOS COMING OVER FROM ABROAD?
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  6. 03-14-11 02:18 AM #6
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    I picked two imports from El Sheba last year,
    I think they liked running in the sand more then
    the dirt.
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  7. 03-14-11 12:30 PM #7
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    Horses that have prepped in Dubai havent faired to well in the Derby
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  8. 03-14-11 01:00 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogkatcher View Post
    I picked two imports from El Sheba last year, I think they liked running in the sand more then the dirt.
    The track there was dirt setup to be like Churchill, but a few years ago they installed a Tapeta synthetic mix. It's used some in the US. Tapeta tends to favor turf horses as opposed to true dirt horses, so I believe it's hard to take anything from the UAE Derby, especially in light of their past performances in the Derby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foosball Champ View Post
    I know that this may unpopular and it usually starts a big argument but the longer that I follow the thoroughbred racing the more that the "Kentucky Derby" is the most over hyped event in sports. From racing standpoint and especially from a breeding standpoint. It nevers settles who is the best 3yo.
    Who ever claimed that it did? At best you can spot the best 3yo at that time of year. It is a singular event but probably the best horse race in world. Plus it is always best horse-capping puzzle of the year. Don't get people who hate fact that it's large field. That's the beauty of it!
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  10. 03-14-11 04:14 PM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyp1222 View Post
    2011-03-26 UAE Derby Nad El Sheba II 1 1/8 Miles $2,000,000

    THIS IS THE RACE IM CURIOUS ABOUT WHOS COMING OVER FROM ABROAD?
    Not sure but they ain't getting my money. Yeah Ilearned the hard way.
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  11. 03-14-11 04:17 PM #11
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    Someone over there bought Sweet Ducky and plans to run him in the UAE Derby.I have him small in the Derby future pool 1 but I don't think this bodes well for his chances.
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  12. 03-14-11 11:02 PM #12
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    Dubai route never has worked. Hopefully, he at least starts in the Kentucky Derby.

    Quote Originally Posted by mikemca View Post
    Someone over there bought Sweet Ducky and plans to run him in the UAE Derby.I have him small in the Derby future pool 1 but I don't think this bodes well for his chances.
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  13. 03-15-11 09:01 AM #13
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    Yeah Slew I know it probably is far fetched now to see him in the Kentucky Derby .I thought he ran really really well in the Holy Bull behind Dialed In so I put a little on his nose.Someone else obviously thought he ran well also but once they go to Dubai you usually never see them again over here.
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  14. 03-15-11 09:17 AM #14
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    my guess is the derby winner will come out of the bluegrass stakes, louisiana derby santa anita derby or arkansas derby,, many late developing three year-olds will be on par w/moe
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  15. 03-15-11 10:33 AM #15
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    2011 UAE Derby (G2)
    Date/Track:
    3/26/2011, Meydan
    Distance:
    1 3/16 m (Synthetic)
    Age/Sex:
    3 M
    Time:
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    *Rank is current Power Ranking among all active horses, based on highest HRN rating. Rating is based on HRN member voting.
    Rank Silks Horse / Sire Rating Trainer / Jockey Last Start Status
    287 Sweet Ducky
    Pulpit
    6.58
    K. Breen
    J. Bravo
    2nd, 2011 Holy Bull (G3) View Video
    Probable
    Buffum
    Bernardini
    5.87
    S. bin Suroor
    F. Dettori
    5th, 2011 UAE 2000 Guineas (G3) View Video
    Possible
    Splash Point
    Street Cry
    5.84
    M. Al Zarooni
    M. Barzalona
    1st, 2011 UAE 2000 Guineas (G3) View Video
    Probable
    Janood
    Medicean
    5.59
    S. bin Suroor
    F. Dettori
    5th, 2011 Meydan Classic (LS)
    Probable
    Khawlah
    Cape Cross
    5.12
    S. bin Suroor
    F. Dettori
    1st, 2011 UAE Oaks (G3) View Video
    Possible
    Reem
    Galileo
    5.12
    M. De Kock
    K. Shea
    1st, 2011 Al Bastakiya (LS) View Video
    Possible
    Mahbooba
    Galileo
    5.12
    M. De Kock
    C. Soumillon
    2nd, 2011 UAE Oaks (G3) View Video
    Probable
    Bridgefield
    Speightstown
    5.12
    M. Al Zarooni
    A. Ajtebi
    5th, 2011 Al Bastakiya (LS) View Video
    Probable
    Krypton Factor
    Kyllachy
    4.79
    F. Nass
    K. Fallon
    6th, 2011 Meydan Classic (LS)
    Probable
    Zanzamar
    Fort Wood

    M. De Kock
    R. Hills
    2nd, 2011 UAE 2000 Guineas (G3) View Video
    Probable
    Lord Of The Stars
    Speightstown

    D. Simcock
    T. O'Shea
    3rd, 2011 Meydan Classic (LS)
    Probable
    Ahlaain
    Bernstein

    D. Simcock
    W. Buick
    2nd, 2011 Al Bastakiya (LS) View Video
    Possible
    Roayh
    Speightstown

    S. bin Suroor
    F. Dettori
    7th, Mey Allow (2/3/2011-R2)
    Possible
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