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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    gulfstream


    R4 #3 felix (8-1) 3WP
    R7 #7 once a giant (10-1) 3WP

    todd has #1 who is expensive for the specs firster but think he'll be overbet


    aqueduct has the 3rd and 5th and other tracks are later ..have to run
    out now ..will put up something about these races even if i pass them




    aqueduct


    R3 #7 good morning angel (7-2) 6W
    R5 #5 celine the queen (5-2) 6W





    oaklawn


    R6 #11 whelen springs (5-1) 4WP





    fairgrounds


    R13 #6 big chopper (6-1)




    .


    2nd @ 7-1 $7.60 (11.40/6)
    out @ 25-1 (6)


    off track
    off track


    3rd @ 4-1 head 2nd (8)



    WIN $11.20/5.00 (16.20/4)

    forgot amount so minimum (2WP)..would've been 3WP



    (4) 27.60/24
    (280) 1621.85/1663 [0.97]


    (284) 1649.45/1687 [0.97]

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    gulfstream

    R4 #7 bitty boss (8-1) 3WP



    oaklawn

    R6 #9 bet he's ready (8-1) 3WP




    fairgrounds


    R9 #3 macee (6-1) 3WP




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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    gulfstream

    R4 #7 bitty boss (8-1) 3WP



    oaklawn

    R6 #9 bet he's ready (8-1) 3WP




    fairgrounds


    R9 #3 macee (6-1) 3WP




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    4th @ 2-1 (6)
    3rd @ 6-1 (6)
    2nd @ 6-1 $6.00 (9.00/6)

    (3) 9.00/18
    (284) 1649.45/1687 [0.97]



    (287) 1658.45/1705 [0.97]



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    there is a major flaw tracking things this way vs playing with a mythical bank and honestly have always known it

    could do the math but I'll spare you..at an avg of $6 bet per race a realistic bankroll for this would be imo 400-500..establishing a starting bank imo is necessary to give this some meaning..the roi should be profit or loss related to bankroll and not volume..the amount of plays is important..losing 50 over 300 plays better than losing it over 100 plays which is why # of plays should be noted

    currently at a $47 loss ..

    300 bank [0.84]
    400 bank [0.88]
    450 bank [0.90]
    500 bank [0.91]
    600 bank [0.92]

    300 aggressive and 600 conservative imo..also important in bank considerations is that the avg of $6/race almost always includes a win and place bet


    if my roi based on volume were 0.85 then a $500 bank would be about halved by now (mine's 0.97)

    if I declared a 500 (mythical) bank at the beginning should look something like this

    (287) 500b/452c [0.90]

    287 plays
    500s= 500 starting bank
    452c =452 current bank
    [0.90] roi based on bank

    these numbers much more meaningful than return/volume
    and you are accounting for volume with # of plays

    then there's the other reasonable argument that a sample size large enough to mean anything would be at minimum in the 1000's of plays


    for these reasons I'm going to discontinue this thread at the end of the month


    may start another in january (same subject) but only post race results vs tallying




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    fairgrounds


    R8 #6 dreamworker (6-1) 3WP



    gulfstream


    R10 #5 london lady (9-2) 3WP





    turfway


    R5 #5 sign of peace (8-1) 3WP (8:14)







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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    fairgrounds


    R8 #6 dreamworker (6-1) 3WP



    gulfstream


    R10 #5 london lady (9-2) 3WP





    turfway


    R5 #5 sign of peace (8-1) 3WP (8:14)







    .



    .
    WIN $9.00/4.80 (20.70/6)
    4th @ 6-1 (6)
    4th @ 5-1 (6)

    (3) 20.70/18
    (287) 1658.45/1705 [0.97]

    (290) 1679.15/1723 [0.97]



    about to post a couple for today

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    aqueduct

    R1 #5 my brother cam (7-2) 3WP



    gulfstream

    R11 #8 scarab (8-1) 3WP

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    aqueduct


    R5 #7 tempermental (9-2) 3WP


    gulfstream


    R6 #7 american pyramid (8-1) 3WP



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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    aqueduct

    R1 #5 my brother cam (7-2) 3WP



    gulfstream

    R11 #8 scarab (8-1) 3WP
    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    aqueduct


    R5 #7 tempermental (9-2) 3WP


    gulfstream


    R6 #7 american pyramid (8-1) 3WP



    .

    eased @ 5-1 (6)
    scratched


    2nd @ 5-1 $8.80 (13.20/6)

    3rd @ 5-1 (6)

    (3) 13.20/18


    (293) 1692.35/1741 [0.97]
    Last edited by JBEX; 12-22-21 at 08:00 AM.

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    tampa

    R5 #3 complete agenda (5-2) 6W

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    tampa

    R5 #3 complete agenda (5-2) 6W
    2nd @ 5-2 (6)

    (294) 1692.35/1747 [0.96]

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    tampa (3:48)

    R8 #7 giant's fire (6-1) 4WP

    very expensive for the ped specs and his freshmen sire off to a fast start ,no pun,with firsters (this one) and runners overall..under the radar trainer (with babies) could help the price but still think he'll be bet


    turfway (8:14)


    R5 #4 madamoussepousee (5-1)
    give me a break lol 3WP



    some other category 2yo races I'll probably look at but that's all for the msw's




    delta (1:55)


    R1 #7 lauri's wish (4-1) 4W


    with the purses for msw's I think you could make a case for mid-level track..I will go the minimum to partly compensate for that..unusual to see a horse debut at gulfstream for mcl 50k that's a louisiana bred..ran evenly and this is obviously a much softer field (la breds) and horse is not up for sale..trainer on fire at this meet..see if he can handle the bullring which at 7.5f is 3 turns



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    tampa


    R6 #1 illogical love (5-2) 6W

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    thursday

    3rd @ 9-1 (8)
    out @ 7-2 (6)
    WIN $3.60 ($7.20/4)

    friday

    2nd @ 7-2 (6) only to win





    (4) 7.20/24

    (298) 1699.55/1771 [0.95]




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    gulfstream (sunday)


    R1 #3 barrett (20-1) 2WP
    R6 #1 galt (6-1) 4WP
    R8 #4 wolfe county (10-1) 3WP


    santa anita

    R1 #3 sweet savant (20-1) 3WP

    first timer by trainer who is not good with them..however the combo of other things; pedigree, jockey,field lacks depth and special to win on opening day may overcome that weakness



    fairgrounds

    R1 #8 marquee ride (7-2) 4WP
    R4 #7 georgetown road (6-1)3WP
    R6 #9 legionnaire (4-1) 4WP
    R12 #5 charlemagne (8-1) 3WP




    tampa


    R9 #5 hand gesture (3-1) 3WP




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    finished gulfstream and did 1 at tampa..did the santa anita card using the thorographs in the other thread

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    fairgrounds


    R5 #5 know by heart (12-1) 2WP




    santa anita


    R9 #4 hemmerle (5-1) 4WP





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    12/26


    out @ 59-1(4)
    WIN $8.00/5.40 (26.80/8)
    out @ 6-1 (6)

    out @ 31-1(6)




    out @ 7-5 (8)
    out @ 3-1 (6)
    out @ 5-2 (8)
    out @ 14-1 (6)





    2nd @ 2-1 $4.60 (6.90/6)



    12/27


    out @ 6-1 (4)
    SLOPPY


    (10) 33.70/62
    (298) 1699.55/1771 [0.95]

    (308) 1733.25/1833 [0.94]




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    aqueduct

    R5 #3 our shot (9-2) 4WP


    fairgrounds

    R2 #5 bouldering (6-1) 4WP

    R4 #1 holy city (8-1) 4WP




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    [QUOTE=JBEX;30709784]aqueduct

    R5 #3 our shot (9-2) 4WP

    sloppy

    fairgrounds

    R2 #5 bouldering (6-1) 4WP

    R4 #1 holy city (8-1) 4WP



    off turf




    .[/QUOTE]

    (308) 1733.25/1833 [0.94]

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    aqueduct

    R8 #10 curlin's wisdom (5-2) 8W

    probably odds-on



    fairgrounds

    R2 #3 autumn's so flashy (8-1) 4WP


    laurel


    R6 #9 determined gold (6-1) 4WP




    oaklawn


    R7 #2 favorite outlaw (3-1) 4WP


    tampa bay


    R5 #2 origo (12-1) 3WP



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    added oaklawn and tampa bay..that's all for today and will bring an end to this thread..going to start another doing this but will only be graded (results) and not tallied

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    aqueduct

    R8 #10 curlin's wisdom (5-2) 8W

    probably odds-on



    fairgrounds

    R2 #3 autumn's so flashy (8-1) 4WP


    laurel


    R6 #9 determined gold (6-1) 4WP




    oaklawn


    R7 #2 favorite outlaw (3-1) 4WP


    tampa bay


    R5 #2 origo (12-1) 3WP



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    2nd @ even (8)
    4th @ 15 (8)
    muddy
    2nd @ 3-1 $4.80 (9.60/8) nose
    out @ 5-1 (6)

    (4) 9.60/30

    (312) 1742.85/1863 [0.93]


    the end of this thread




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