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    Bovada Racebook just robbed me for $394

    I had a .90 cent pick 4 ticket at Emerald Downs (July 26) race 4 thru 7 that had 1,3,4,7 with, 2,4,5 with,1,4,6, with, 2,6

    The winning pick 4 combination was 4-5-4-7. Nobody had the winning combination at the track, so it paid 3 out of 4 consolations of $109.50 for .50 cent tickets. Since I had two .90 cent tickets that had 3 out of 4 correct (4-5-4-2 and 4-5-4-6), I should receive $394.20. It's in their rules that they pay consolations, and they have paid me many times when there has been a 2 out 3 consolation on pick 3's. They have always been really good about properly paying, as I have been playing there for years. But for some reason, the manager won't pay this out, even though the rules clearly state they pay consolations that the track pays out. His reason? He doesn't see any results where they pay the 2, 6 or all in the final leg. After my shock at this ridiculous comment, I explained to him that there would be so many numbers that they simply say 3 out of 4, but this doesn't seem to make sense to him. I can't believe something so obvious would elude him. There is no issue of past posting here, this ticket was played 10 minutes before the race, and is time stamped.

    I would like to file a formal complaint here at SBR, but I don't know how to do it, so if someone on the staff at SBR could help me, I'd appreciate it. I have ticket #'s, and all things that would be needed. This is in clear violation of their own rules that they are not paying me.
    Last edited by indio; 07-27-13 at 02:45 AM.

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    Switch to 5 Dimes. Superior race book with better rebates and a plus 10 book where you get 10% added to any winning wager. GL in getting this resolved.

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    go to equibase.com.click results,select full charts. click your track.send it to bovada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dugbug15 View Post
    go to equibase.com.click results,select full charts. click your track.send it to bovada.
    I had him look at that when I was on the phone with the manager. You won't believe the response he gave me. He said that unless he sees a result that shows all, 2 or 6 in the last leg getting paid, that he won't pay the ticket. I tried to explain to him that that is what PAYS 3 OUT OF 4 means, but it was like talking to a potato. The funny thing is, they have paid out 2 out of 3 consolations to me on pick 3's many times. When I told him this, he dug in, and stated that pick 3 consolations show results like 8/4/all, 8/all/4 and all/4/8 being paid. When I tried to explain to him they don't typically show every consolation verbatim on pick 4's (because their are more permutations with 4 legs) he just dug in and said he needs to see all, 2 or 6 being paid in the last leg.

    This is even more shocking to me, because their racebook has been practically perfect with me for the last 3 years. I've hit pick 3's for 7k that the funds were credited to my account in 5 minutes, so it's not the $394 that is the issue with them. I think, sadly, that this racebook manager truly does not understand how track payoffs work.

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    Good luck getting paid. Always dicey betting pick 3's and 4's offshore at tracks that have small pools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indio View Post
    I had him look at that when I was on the phone with the manager. You won't believe the response he gave me. He said that unless he sees a result that shows all, 2 or 6 in the last leg getting paid, that he won't pay the ticket. I tried to explain to him that that is what PAYS 3 OUT OF 4 means, but it was like talking to a potato. The funny thing is, they have paid out 2 out of 3 consolations to me on pick 3's many times. When I told him this, he dug in, and stated that pick 3 consolations show results like 8/4/all, 8/all/4 and all/4/8 being paid. When I tried to explain to him they don't typically show every consolation verbatim on pick 4's (because their are more permutations with 4 legs) he just dug in and said he needs to see all, 2 or 6 being paid in the last leg.

    This is even more shocking to me, because their racebook has been practically perfect with me for the last 3 years. I've hit pick 3's for 7k that the funds were credited to my account in 5 minutes, so it's not the $394 that is the issue with them. I think, sadly, that this racebook manager truly does not understand how track payoffs work.
    SEVENTH RACE
    Emerald
    JULY 26,
    2013
    6ô FURLONGS.
    (1.13) MAIDEN CLAIMING . Purse $6,725
    (includes
    $1,480
    MITEC - Muckleshoot Tribal
    Contribution ) FOR MAIDENS, FILLIES THREE YEARS OLD. Weight, 121 lbs. Claiming Price $7,500.
    Value of Race:
    $6,725 Winner $3,699;
    second $1,345;
    third $1,009;
    fourth $504;
    fifth $168.
    Mutuel Pool
    $26,546.00
    Exacta Pool
    $13,635.00
    Superfecta Pool
    $14,682.00
    Trifecta Pool
    $23,526.00
    Last Raced
    Horse
    M/
    Eqt.
    A.
    Wt
    PP
    St
    ²

    Str
    Fin
    Jockey
    Cl'g Pr
    Odds $1
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    Exclusive Queen
    LB
    3
    121
    5
    1


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    Hoonan D
    7500
    7.90
    6Û13
    §EmD§
    Graceful Minou
    LB
    3
    121
    3
    3


    2¦ô
    2¦ô
    Kubinova E
    7500
    3.70
    Chess Queen
    LB
    3
    121
    4
    2

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    Lopez D G
    7500
    10.80
    3Û13
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    Magic Molly
    LB
    b
    3
    121
    2
    5

    4 ̈

    4ªô
    Enriquez I D
    7500
    0.30
    3Û13
    ̈EmD«
    Aurora Sunshine
    LB
    b
    3
    116
    1
    4
    5
    5
    5
    5
    Hardison Mª
    7500
    30.50
    OFF
    AT
    9:46
    Start
    Good.
    Won
    driving.
    Track
    fast.
    TIME
    :23 ̈,
    :47¦,
    1:11©,
    1:18¦ (:23.74,
    :47.32,
    1:11.86,
    1:18.32)
    $2 Mutuel Prices:
    7 -
    EXCLUSIVE QUEEN
    17.80
    6.60
    5.80
    5 -
    GRACEFUL MINOU
    4.20
    4.80
    6 -
    CHESS QUEEN
    7.80
    $1￿EXACTA￿7-5￿PAID￿$37.00 $1￿SUPERFECTA￿7-5-6-2￿PAID￿$171.60
    $1￿TRIFECTA￿7-5-6￿PAID￿$145.00
    Dk. b or br.
    f,
    (Feb),
    by
    Matty G - Emerald Light ,
    by
    Country Light .
    Trainer
    Moore Gregory A.
    Bred
    by
    Judi Gardiner
    & Don Gardiner
    (Wash).
    EXCLUSIVE QUEEN was away in good order to set a pressured pace from the inside,
    opened a clear margin into the lane and
    held sway to the wire. GRACEFUL MINOU
    was never far back, raced wide through the turn, reached a striking position in
    mid-
    stretch but failed to gain on the winner late. CHESS QUEEN broke sharply to
    press the pace of the winner from the outside and
    could not match strides with
    that rival in the drive. MAGIC MOLLY was off slow and bumped, stalked the
    leaders from the inside,
    had racing room into the stretch and gradually gave
    way. AURORA SUNSHINE lagged throughout.
    Owners-
    1, Hiibel SharonHiibelJoe and Johnson Jamie;
    2, Logan Stable;
    3, Baze Bonnie L Weber Barbara and Wright Tom;
    4, Klokstad
    Billie;
    5, Nunnally Racing Stable
    Trainers-
    1, Moore Gregory A;
    2, Apostolou Dinos G;
    3, Baze Robert;
    4, McCanna Tim;
    5, Nunnally Chris
    Magic Molly
    was
    claimed
    by
    David Wise and David Tollett;
    trainer, Tollett David.
    Scratched-
    Merry Sherry (07Jul13
    ¦¥EmD ̈) ,
    Sheza Silver Moon (07Jul13
    ¦¥EmD§)
    $1
    Pick Three
    (5-4-7) Paid
    $400.00 ;
    Pick Three Pool
    $8,160 .
    50￿CENT
    Pick Four
    (4-5-4-7) 3
    Correct Paid
    $109.50 ;
    Pick Four Pool
    $23,484 .
    $2
    123 Racing
    (1ST-137.20) Paid
    $229.60 ;
    123 Racing Pool
    $494 .
    $2
    123 Racing
    (2ND-127.00) Paid
    $115.40 .
    $2
    123 Racing
    (3RD-120.00) Paid
    $39.40 .
    50￿CENT
    Pick Five
    (9-4-5-4-7) 4
    Correct Paid
    $117.90 ;
    Pick Five Pool
    $9,082
    Carryover Pool
    $5,659.
    $2
    Daily Double
    (4-7) Paid
    $109.00 ;
    Daily Double Pool
    $6,128 .
    $2
    Consolation Daily Double
    (4-3) Paid
    $4.20 .
    Emerald Downs
    Attendance:
    Unavailable
    Mutuel Pool:
    $.00
    Copyright © 2013 Daily Racing Form, Inc. and Equibase Com

    PM Bodog Betty in this forum and show her this.

    File a formal complaint with SBR and explain as you have. Here is the link.

    Click on Sportsbook complaint and it should all get worked out. The guy you are talking to just doesn't get it.

    I think it's this one.

    SPORTSBOOK ASSISTANCE

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    Good Luck.
    Last edited by str; 07-27-13 at 12:42 PM.

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    **************************************** ******UPDATE**************************** **************************

    I HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL.

    James, the day racebook manager called me on the phone, and said after reviewing the situation, that I am supposed to be paid, and they put the money in my account. Apparantly, I was dealing with the overnight manager on the graveyard shift who was not as adept at his job.

    I have learned that any future wagering disputes that arise after midnight EST for west coast night racing, just wait until the next day, and talk to the day manager, who knows what he is doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by indio View Post
    I HAVE BEEN PAID IN FULL.
    Good to hear that they got it squared.

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