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    longshot play of day (delaware race 3)

    going with the 1. ruth wonders. She should be second in speed here to the 11 and is a major class dropper. She its a big field with 11 horses and the 11 and 8 should be favorited here. She is 8-1 ml and will probably go off around 5/6-1

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    Not bashing your pick at all, but this horse is in no way dropping in class.

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    Weird that was some info I got from my friend who caps. Told me he was a class dropper and class of this race. Sorry If I gave wrong info I will start checking facts before I post

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    doesn't matter because he won! he was bet down a lot though..

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    Cheers all is well in the end.
    Tuesdays are usually a good day for me. I like these smaller tracks

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    Whatever the class, good pick even tho went off @ 7/2. Nice run by the horse and jock.

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    She was dropping in class and had about the 2nd highest Brisnet speed figure, thus the shorter than expected price

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    How is going from a 5000N3L to a 7500N2L today at the same track a drop in class?

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    That is a significant drop

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    LOL a significant drop. Yet the claiming price rises by 2500.... suuuure. How dumb are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtp View Post
    LOL a significant drop. Yet the claiming price rises by 2500.... suuuure. How dumb are you?
    dtp, Jake is right. Don't look at the price. Look at the n/w of 2 vs. 3. That is a huge difference. The 5000 vs 7500 beaten races are barely different. All horses in that race are very weak. It is a safe bet that when speaking in terms of those types of beaten races that very few if any will EVER be able to win an open race without a time condition like N/W in 6 months or whatever. Unless a horse wins through these races very quickly, in most cases when they lose there conditions, they are pretty much done.
    A horse moving out of n/w of 3 and into n/w of 2 is a drop in class even if they step up from 5000 to 7,500 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtp View Post
    LOL a significant drop. Yet the claiming price rises by 2500.... suuuure. How dumb are you?
    Hey dtp.
    Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. No pun intended. Instead of saying how dumb someone is, why not just take it as a winner?
    Who'se the dumb one really??

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    Cheers all is well in the end.
    Tuesdays are usually a good day for me. I like these smaller tracks
    Nice on wtt!!

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    I still don't agree at all. Look at this horse's last 7 races including this one.

    7500 n2L
    5000 n3L
    7500 n3L
    5000 n2L
    7500 n2L
    5000 n2L
    7500 n2L

    These races seem very similar to me. Yeah I know he was going up against horses with 1 extra win but whatever. I'm actually not even sure how this horse was eligible for N2L because I see 2 wins on his PP. Please explain that for me... yet his career records only show 1 win. That is some shady shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marksinger View Post
    Hey dtp.
    Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. No pun intended. Instead of saying how dumb someone is, why not just take it as a winner?
    Who'se the dumb one really??


    Who am I kicking in the mouth? Do you even know how to read? I was just disagreeing that this was a "significant drop in class." Nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wtt0315 View Post
    Cheers all is well in the end.
    Tuesdays are usually a good day for me. I like these smaller tracks
    I meant to say " nice one wtt"!!
    You do an excellent job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtp View Post
    I still don't agree at all. Look at this horse's last 7 races including this one.

    7500 n2L
    5000 n3L
    7500 n3L
    5000 n2L
    7500 n2L
    5000 n2L
    7500 n2L

    These races seem very similar to me. Yeah I know he was going up against horses with 1 extra win but whatever. I'm actually not even sure how this horse was eligible for N2L because I see 2 wins on his PP. Please explain that for me... yet his career records only show 1 win. That is some shady shit.
    With out seeing the pps on this horse, he might have been DQ'ed from one win for a positive test or a non race infraction( owner not eligible or whatever) . Usually it will say so but if it was recently determined or a hearing was held, that could be the case and the form has not picked up the ruling yet. Also, check the full conditions of the race. It might say something like ( races where entered for 5,000 or less not considered) or it might say NW/2 or a race in 6 months.
    I'm just stabbing at this but if he was a winner of 2 already, with no other conditions posted he would not have been eligible.
    Maybe he won, nw/2 , was eventually DQed a month or so later, but ran in the nw/3 while all that was taking place , thus the move back into nw/2.
    Don't have the form to explain. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dtp View Post
    Who am I kicking in the mouth? Do you even know how to read? I was just disagreeing that this was a "significant drop in class." Nothing more.
    Can't YOU READ DTP!! The end of your statement states .......how dumb are you? It's right there. Read it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marksinger View Post
    Hey dtp.
    Don't kick a gift horse in the mouth. No pun intended. Instead of saying how dumb someone is, why not just take it as a winner?
    Who'se the dumb one really??
    Read this again dtp, especially the last sentence.

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    thanks guys. i usually cap with a friend and we cap 2 seperate tracks, today he was doing deleware and i was doing parx. he told she was a class dropper and guy is usually spot on. i will continue to give you guys if i can a good play every day. i usually dont be big big dogs or heavy favs. I have fell in love with pick 4's lately but been profited pretty nicely while being able to control my bankroll. hopefully this weekend we can nail something big.

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    Please disregard my immature responses. Thanks.

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    If anyone can figure it out, I still have no idea why this horse Ruth Wonders, was able to run in this race considering it was a N2L and it appears that she has 2 wins already. Thanks.

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    str gave you the answer you were looking for..

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    Quote Originally Posted by scratbandit View Post
    str gave you the answer you were looking for..

    LOL no. He gave possibilities for an answer. He didn't give the answer. Do you know how to read?

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