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    jmatthew
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    Beaten Favorite Angle

    I am pretting new to handicapping horses and have been trying out different methods. Recently I have been looking at the beaten favorites to run back angle and have notice it's been hitting at quite a few tracks. Does this angle produce long term ROI if used in the right spots? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

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    Well anyone angle will produce positive too "when used in the right spots"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmatthew View Post
    I am pretting new to handicapping horses and have been trying out different methods. Recently I have been looking at the beaten favorites to run back angle and have notice it's been hitting at quite a few tracks. Does this angle produce long term ROI if used in the right spots? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.
    My guess is probably not but others would no better than I. The bigger question might be, why did they get beat? Was it ability, simply the wrong horse chosen by the public, the pace , a legit excuse? Because of the variables involved in lumping all beaten favorites together, I doubt that any real edge can be obtained. Finding a subset( one of the above or another reason) of all beaten favorites might indeed produce a solid ROI but that has never been my angle.
    Hope that helps.

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    look at the cars in the parking lots of the otb's/tracks. the majority of those schlubs couldnt pick a winner if their life depended on it. they (the GP) are the ones who's $ im looking to grab. always look elsewhere than the fav. all over the fav is a good exacta angle IMO....

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    Hell go for it what do you have to lose. I look for anyway to make some money. WHat have you done so far?

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    Cap the races yourself, don't bother with Faves, morning line or post time!

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    Statistically if you're looking to chase beaten favorites stick to dirt sprints and routes. Turf races produce the lowest win % and ROI for beaten favorites. Beaten favorites who are the post time favorite again win at 38% with and ROI of $1.66/2.00

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    I guess he went in search of another angle.

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    Most angles within an angle call for a ton of patience and fewer plays. That alone keeps many from pursuing it.
    But you already knew that didn't you Jake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JakeLc View Post
    Statistically if you're looking to chase beaten favorites stick to dirt sprints and routes. Turf races produce the lowest win % and ROI for beaten favorites. Beaten favorites who are the post time favorite again win at 38% with and ROI of $1.66/2.00
    good info jake

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    anyone have thoughts on first time blinkers wit maidens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gtkid911 View Post
    anyone have thoughts on first time blinkers wit maidens?
    That can be a great place to look for a winner. Especially if the horse shows a gate work since there last race that is faster than their other works . In many cases especially at tracks with smaller pools, always check for early money and open pools like D.D's . Also check the 1st blinkers on trainer history. Blinkers usually add some speed as well as focus to a horse .
    Always a solid angle to investigate.

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    the beaten favorite angle is real weak, just because people make the horse a favorite menas nothing, look at the horses past performances, you want a real winner third start off a loyoff with improving beyers and a workout going into third race, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by str View Post
    Most angles within an angle call for a ton of patience and fewer plays. That alone keeps many from pursuing it.
    But you already knew that didn't you Jake.
    A couple of my spot plays generate only about 3 plays per week

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