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    They are c games now that two of you caught him.

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    I would never wager 100 to win a couple. Who does that anyway. Bets have no memory. Kenny do you even know how to wager? What a child you are begging for attention. Must have a sad life.

    i don't mind trolls but stupid ones are just sad.

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    I don't understand how you tally up your record. You had 6 games went 3-3 but only added the 3 you won to your previous 65-1 record, making it 68-1. How does that work? Isn't that a misleading record and misleading +units?

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    No thanks for no picks today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickoMoff View Post
    I don't understand how you tally up your record. You had 6 games went 3-3 but only added the 3 you won to your previous 65-1 record, making it 68-1. How does that work? Isn't that a misleading record and misleading +units?
    The line below the System profit shows current open series, which is the number of current units in an outstanding chase:

    System profit/loss:
    +55.19 units
    (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-23.34 units)

    A loss isn't added to the record until a 3 game chase loses a "C" bet.

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    Looking at early line it looks like St. Louis@San Jose is going to be PL bet and it will need 35 units to cover A + B + 1 unit. Not sure if I will have the balls to drop 35 units on single bet. This is stressful

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    If you followed instructions and made 1 unit 0.5% of your roll it wouldn't be that rediculous especially considering the profit

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayRow View Post
    If you followed instructions and made 1 unit 0.5% of your roll it wouldn't be that rediculous especially considering the profit
    It is 0.5% of my roll but still to drop 35 on bet C along with 2.2 in bet A and 9.5 in bet B for total of 46.7 units or 24% of my roll is still a lot to take considering I just started. I will still go with it but I am just saying I am scared that is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by malish View Post
    The line below the System profit shows current open series, which is the number of current units in an outstanding chase:

    System profit/loss:
    +55.19 units
    (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-23.34 units)

    A loss isn't added to the record until a 3 game chase loses a "C" bet.
    Still seems misleading to just add wins and not loses but whatever.

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    He is keeping the track of open bets and outstanding units.

    System profit/loss: +55.19 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-23.34 units)

    Just subtract profit/loss from open series and you will find a current status of the system. Not sure what is misleading. Also wins and losses are updated in the running tally so there is nothing hidden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickoMoff View Post
    Still seems misleading to just add wins and not loses but whatever.
    It is NOT misleading at all. How can you count an open series as a loss?? It is NOT a loss if A bet or B bet loses. It will officially be a loss if the C bet loses.

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    Not worth a response
    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-29-13 at 10:51 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgilic View Post
    Looking at early line it looks like St. Louis@San Jose is going to be PL bet and it will need 35 units to cover A + B + 1 unit. Not sure if I will have the balls to drop 35 units on single bet. This is stressful
    Where are you seeing this, since the line has been posted on scoresandodds, san jose has been the fav on the ML.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonhammer View Post
    Where are you seeing this, since the line has been posted on scoresandodds, san jose has been the fav on the ML.
    I was looking on one site where I bet 10Bet and they have St Louis as favorite and San Jose with PL.

    EDIT: Obviously I can't read. It is other way around. Ignore my post.
    Last edited by bgilic; 11-28-13 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgilic View Post
    Looking at early line it looks like St. Louis@San Jose is going to be PL bet and it will need 35 units to cover A + B + 1 unit. Not sure if I will have the balls to drop 35 units on single bet. This is stressful
    Then either drop your unit size further so that C bets don't stress you out or stop playing this system.

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    An open series IS a loss but it's a different way of looking at the stays. I look at it differently but understand the concept so it's no big deal.

    Anyone out there nervous, you SHOULD be nervous. This is a huge risk reward system. Just gotta deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grinder12000 View Post
    An open series IS a loss but it's a different way of looking at the stays. I look at it differently but understand the concept so it's no big deal.

    Anyone out there nervous, you SHOULD be nervous. This is a huge risk reward system. Just gotta deal with it.
    You are right Grinder and I will have to suck it up and accept these huge risks as part of the system. Your NBA system is also very interesting, do you play multiple systems at the same time during the year? Have you played or seen any good soccer systems?

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    SOCCER, I'm an American, don't do those niche' sports. LOL. But seriously, I've never known anyone to bet soccer except Stifler.

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    Grinder, are you still posting your NFL picks? I've been tailing all year

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    Good Luck everyone today thanks walco for all the hard work shrug the haters off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Needs Hockey View Post
    Good Luck everyone today thanks walco for all the hard work shrug the haters off.
    Already shrugged!

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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2013-14 System to date: 68-1 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +55.19 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-23.34 units)


    v1 Fades
    (A) 42-11
    (B) 8-2

    (C) 1-0
    Losses: None

    v2 Plays
    (A) 10-9
    (B) 3-6

    (C) 4-1
    Losses: DET (-12.81 u)



    Games for (11/29/13):
    #65 Toronto @ Buffalo (+1½) v2 (C) (7:35 pm EST)
    #67 St Louis @ San Jose (M/L) v1 (C) (4:05 pm EST)
    #69 Montreal @ Washington (M/L) v1 (B) (5:05 pm EST)
    #73 St. Louis (+1½) @ San Jose v1 (A) (4:05 pm EST)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.
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    Colorado +1.5 @ Minnesota is also a play today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsdjason View Post
    Colorado +1.5 @ Minnesota is also a play today.
    No it's not... The previous play with Colorado was a v1 play on STL

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlinx90 View Post
    No it's not... The previous play with Colorado was a v1 play on STL
    You're right my bad.

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    Washington is not favourite but i don't get it, on Pinnacle you can't bet on +1.5
    however you can bet on Montreal +1.5 ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsadontlikehim View Post
    Washington is not favourite but i don't get it, on Pinnacle you can't bet on +1.5
    however you can bet on Montreal +1.5 ...
    They were -115 when I posted. Alternate line in that case.

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    Yep Wallco that's what I thought ... I did pick ML anyway , we'll see
    Damn i am praying for at least the Sabres to win at last!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PickoMoff View Post
    Still seems misleading to just add wins and not loses but whatever.
    The record reflects completed series. A series can complete by either winning an A, B or C bet, or by losing a C bet. If neither of those has happened, the series is not complete, and it would be more confusing if you tried to combine games in open series with those in completed series. The way Wallco tallies the results is actually the clearest I've seen on here.
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    Most of the time I can get an alternate line if needed. There was only one time when, for some reason, the only alternate line was something like +2 -580. I said no thanks and checked M/L. It worked out OK.

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    SAN JOSE terrific start!

    no jixing Wallco, can't be, 4/0 after 15 minutes, fingers in the nose

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipsadontlikehim View Post
    SAN JOSE terrific start!

    no jixing Wallco, can't be, 4/0 after 15 minutes, fingers in the nose
    I just got up and saw 4:0 and had to rub my eyes to see if it is right and if it is for San Jose. GO SHARKS!!!!!!

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    if Buffalo wins or lose by 1 goal it will be a perfect day

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    so wallco.. are washington a PL play right now?

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    4-3 is getting me worried

    Make that 5-3. Breathing a little bit easier

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