[kingofny]

i only play strong steam moves ... What i am asking is if anyone knows a web site that i can get the betting pecentages that moved the line .. not just the opening and the closing and what the percentages are being bet .. u have an example of what i am looking for ... the site i use now is going to charge for this soon

BetUs

Dec 10 10:30 PM

Dayton

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Bodog

Dec 10 10:32 PM

Old Dominion

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-11.50

Sportsbook

88.89%

20.00



BetUs

Dec 11 08:15 AM

Old Dominion

-9.50

-11.50

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88.89%

18.00



Bodog

Dec 11 10:57 AM

Old Dominion

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-11.50

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88.89%

18.00



BetUs

Dec 11 11:01 AM

Old Dominion

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-11.50

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88.89%

14.00



Bodog

Dec 11 11:23 AM

Old Dominion

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-11.50

Sportsbook

88.89%

0.00



Bodog

Dec 11 12:22 PM

Old Dominion

-11.00

-11.50

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72.73%

0.00



BetUs

Dec 11 12:28 PM

Old Dominion

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BetUs

Dec 11 12:47 PM

Dayton

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20.00%

70.00

[doublej95]

check out sportsinsights.com

[subs]

show me the odds dot com is free but you gotta deposit into 1 of their sponsors.

[CHUBNUT]

Your approach to Sports betting has no future, only people trading with high stakes should be interested in line movement. For the rest of us who just bet a normal percentage of our bank on the actual outcome of the game we are completly guessing as to where the line is going. I'm sure someone will tell you different but talks cheap on these forums, when you've given up trying remember its the same for everybody not what you have personally done.

[DeeVeeOSs]

No, not so much. About the whole "line movement is useless".

There are situations where bookies have to betray the conclusions of the secrets they know.

ie. "We are manually inflating the line. This can only be because we are NOT worried about the inflated team losing. Bet here, here and here, sign the dotted line at the bottom and thank you very much."

Of course, other ingredients are needed here or else it's unclear exactly what inflation and deflation mean.
True North Game Value for one.
Amount of people betting each side for two.
But what really betrays them is the OPENING LINE vs the way they compensate for unexpected betting flux in one direction or another.

I don't start a line at -111 and then deflate it to -145 because I was happy paying -111.
I likely do that because I'm happy with -111 until the red phone rings.
Bookies, get called with information.

Some of these books can even find out what time Crosby went to bed and how badly hung over he was.

[subs]

OMG - can you please keep talking

how do you even know this? are you that guy tailing Crosby? no really, so instead of spending millions on maths and computer simulations, and weather reports and who know what else, that it is better to find out who the ballers are and just tail em or pay their drivers/friends/pimp/drug dealers?

wow lateral thinking man. love it (not sarcastic)

[kingofny]

i spend about 20 mins handicapping i follow smart money ...and i can understand if some people are not capable of doing this because they cant understand what a steam move is to a cleveland steamer ..

well I can tell when the books are moving the line after the steam to attract money on a certain side ...and i look to go with the steam and against the book ... but again you have to know where to look and what it looks like .... the only reason why i ask is because the site i use is free right now .. and its the only one that gives me the movement of the line and the percentage that moved it .. but i think around the bowl games they will start to charge for the service ... if anyone can help i will give you whatever points i have ..i also can give you the website if you would like to see what i am talking about ....thank you ...