[gamblinggoose]

I have been looking around at these Wong Teasers and have a couple questions. I have a bookie that I go through not an online sportsbook. He has 6 point teasers. 2 Teamer at -120 and ties push. he has 4 teamer at 3/1. how solid of an advantage do I have with wong teasers with these scenarios. also, what about doing a 6 point teaser on the same game. lets say the line is 8.5, would be it smart to do it down to -2.5 and then up to 14.5 for the other side?? so i am basically laying -120 for it to be between 3 to 14 points? anybody have any thoughts on what I should do?

[sharpcat]

Ask your bookie to wear a condom

-120 on a 2 team teaser is rape -110 is the most you should pay.

[gangster]

hahahahaaa.. agree with sharpcat.. lolzzzzz

[wrongturn]

-120 on 2 teamer is bad, you will get -110 at most books. The 4 teamer +300 odds is great. I heard teasing total is bad. As teasing the same game on two sides, no, don't do it. You can put them in different teasers if you feel the middle is likely to hit, but never on the same teaser.

[gamblinggoose]

Ok so here is my thought. Can you do a 4 Teamer on the same game.... So lets say the spread is 8 and the total is 44......payout is 3/1.... would be doing -2, +14, Over 38 and Under 50.....is this a smart play? pretty new to all this!

[wrongturn]

You can do 4 teamer on the same game, but it is not smart thing to do.

[gamblinggoose]

Ok thats all I was looking for! Thanks a lot! On a scale of 1-10 how successful are these wong teasers...... have never done it before.... I have an account at bodog, not sure how they are with the teasers.....

[thechaoz]

You want to do spreads, cross they key numbers 7 and 3. There are probably many variations as I am only a year into this, but from what I understand with WONG that is rule number 1. So from 8.5 to 2.5 would be good, the another game similar. Not sure if applies to totals (more qualified posters could chime in), but if you feel strong about an under or over, it wouldnt be bad.

For example Boise was -18.5 and o/u 56. I dropped it to 12.5 and 50 and took over. I won by .5 point, while others on Boise lost obv. I don't use them often but when I'm very certain of an outcome I will roll with it. Teasers need to hit arond 68-70% break even, so you really need to get 3/4 to be profitable.

EDIT: My boise example was not a wong teaser, but rather an example of if used wisely, they can be profitable. Wong teasers are more keyed at NFL, as college is a whole other thing. BOL

[frankbettor]

Wong teasers were designed specifically for the NFL and not CFB. Do NOT employ that tactic in college, you'll lose everything.

[Pancho sanza]

They work in NCAA, in a very limited # of spots.

[gamblinggoose]

Ok so Wong Teasers are profitabl over long time when crossing 3's and 7's correct? anybody have a record on this?

[Patrick McIrish]

NFL. This is pretty obvious but if you must try them in college I'd recommend games with low totals.

[gamblinggoose]

Yeah, so I am just going to do NFL from here on out....what kind of hit % should I expect?

[Bill the cop]

NFL. This is pretty obvious but if you must try them in college I'd recommend games with low totals.

The only subset in college I use is RD 1 to 2.5. Ten years of data (6423 games), 267-91-3 for 74.6%. If you limit your bets to games with totals 51 or under, smaller SS, but , 140-40-2 for 77.8%. Higher totaled games don't do as well, right around 72.5%.

[Pancho sanza]

The only subset in college I use is RD 1 to 2.5. Ten years of data (6423 games), 267-91-3 for 74.6%. If you limit your bets to games with totals 51 or under, smaller SS, but , 140-40-2 for 77.8%. Higher totaled games don't do as well, right around 72.5%.

How did those road dogs (all of them) do ATS? I'll guess around 54-55 %.

Not sure I would want to assume this going forward.

If you do, just bet the road teams + the points instead.

[gamblinggoose]

So what should I expect for the NFL?

[Bill the cop]

How did those road dogs (all of them) do ATS? I'll guess around 54-55 %.

Not sure I would want to assume this going forward.

If you do, just bet the road teams + the points instead.

Of course nobody knows what will happen going forward, just what has happened in the past. The RDs (1 to 2.5) went 207-152-2 ATS for 57.6%. At -110 this results in +EV of 10%, at -105 it's +EV of 12.5%.

The teasers at even money (easy to find on college teasers), +EV of 11.4%, same teasers with the lower totals, +EV of 21%.

I've run into this situation preseason, where ATS and the teaser subsets are both +EV. What I do is bet them 3 ways, teasers, ATS, and in parlays. (proportionally).

[Bill the cop]

So what should I expect for the NFL?

NFL teasers

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First of all, let's clear up some misconceptions relating to Basic Strategy (BS) teasers. By definition BS teasers are those NFL 6 point teasers which capture the WHOLE 3 and 7. So they consist of Dogs 1.5 to 2.5 teased up and Favs 7.5 to 8.5 teased down. That's it, all other subsets are considered "Non Basic Strategy" teasers. Much to the chagrin of many so called "pros" I've been a strong advocate of the non-BS variety of teasers for many years. The ones I concentrate on are RD+4.5 to +6 and HF-7 to -9. Below are charts of BS teasers based on 16 years of regular season data and then the last 5 years of results. I then detailed the results of non-BS teasers for comparison.

BS Summary, 16 years

RD1.5 to 2.5, 206-79-0, for 72.3%
HD1.5 to 2.5, 148-60-0, for 71.2%
Subtotal Dogs, 354-139-0, for 71.8%

RF7.5 to 8.5, 46-25-0, for 64.8%
HF7.5 to 8.5, 166-59-2, for 73.8%
Subtotal Favs, 212-84-2, for 71.6%

Total all BS Teasers, 566-223-2, for 71.7%


BS Summary, 5 years

RD1.5 to 2.5, 54-18-0, for 75%
HD1.5 to 2.5, 40-23-0, for 63.5%
Subtotal Dogs, 94-41-0, for 69.6%

RF7.5 to 8.5, 21-11-0, for 65.6%
HF7.5 to 8.5, 51-16-0, for 76.1%
Subtotal Favs, 72-27-0, for 72.7%

Total all BS Teasers, 166-68-0, for 70.9%

Before we go further, let's eliminate those RFs (they suck). For the 16 year data, we now have 520-198-2, for 72.4% and 145-57-0, for 71.8% for the 5 years of data. Keep in mind that you need 72.4% to BE at -110. So with the exception of the HFs, the rest of these BS teaser candidates don't show much. Now let's look at my non-BS subsets.

Non-BS, 16 years

HF7 to 9, 364-123-19, for 74.7%
RD4.5 to 6, 326-109-2, for 74.9%

Total all Non-BS Teasers, 690-232-21, for 74.8%


Non-BS, 5 years

HF7 to 9, 113-27-2, for 80.7%
RD4.5 to 6, 102-33-1, for 75.6%

Total all Non-BS Teasers, 215-60-3, for 78.2%

[subs]

thanks Bill - surely 1 of the most helpful people here

[RickySteve]

Bill, which books have thrown you out for betting teasers?

[Bill the cop]

Bill, which books have thrown you out for betting teasers?

LOL, the last one was BetPop.

[Bill the cop]

thanks Bill - surely 1 of the most helpful people here

Thanks for the points Sub

[rfr3sh]