[RickySteve]

DH tilts the sh t out of me.

[Dark Horse]

lmao

[That Foreign Guy]

Then I added 1 filter question before trying to teach them: "What is 2% of 200?" I asked 20 people this. 2 got it right.

LOL. Really?

Did you massively rush them or otherwise try and trick them in to saying "Two!" without thinking?

I feel proud I am in the top 10% of maths! Well at least until you ask me to do multiplication :S

[MonkeyF0cker]

lol @ giving j7 any flack for writing a book be it about sportsbetting or growing roses.

If he wrote a book about growing roses, I might actually read it.

[mathdotcom]

Why the hell is Wall Street even in this book?

I've always wondered why you bother with these things (writing a book, lecturing, moderating, playing video games). I can see how moderating complements your gambling, but otherwise these seem like awful distractions if your gambling salary is as high as it should be to justify writing a book. It takes me at least an hour a day just to get the bets in, let alone decide what to bet.

[Justin7]

I've always wondered why you bother with these things (writing a book, lecturing, moderating, playing video games). I can see how moderating complements your gambling, but otherwise these seem like awful distractions if your gambling salary is as high as it should be to justify writing a book. It takes me at least an hour a day just to get the bets in, let alone decide what to bet.

I do dispute resolution for SBR for the same reason I still sue people and have trials as a lawyer. I enjoy it. And, I enjoy just about everything else I choose to do in life as well.

[mathdotcom]

What was your last lawsuite Justin?

[wrongturn]

I completely disagree with the first part.

I didn't realize you saw it so black and white. Sportsbook and casinos, in my opinion, are neutral entities that offer people the opportunity to learn about proper decision making. Is not every single one of life's big decisions in essence a gamble? Look up the divorce rate. Check out NASA's history. Every exploration comes with build-in risk. Risk can't be conquered. It can only be managed. The elements to be conquered are fear and ignorance.

So I completely agree with the second part, about education.

Driving off a cliff doesn't make a car toxic. Why not learn to drive the thing first? If people wish not to learn the lessons life places before them, that is their right and free choice. Even then, if suffering results, something will be learned; so something is gained. Life goes on, so even 'ruin' is not a permanent state. The only difference between choices in real life and in the world of gambling is that the latter offers no place to hide. In this realm people pay for every single mistake they make. Some may find that unacceptably ruthless, but others find it incredibly beautiful; perhaps even more so because it goes hand in hand with a quest to improve upon current (scientific) knowledge.

I actually agree with Justin more in the sense that gambling, like smoking, much often than not, can ruin people's life because most people just don't know how to keep them in control, no matter how much they tried by learning, therapy, whatever. You can say a lot of things in life also come with risk, but these two are at much much higher level for ruining chances.

[Justin7]

What was your last lawsuite Justin?

My last trial was a small auto-accident where the insurance wouldn't even offer to pay the person's bills. Basically told the person that was rear-ended to screw off. I had a small claims trial, and got her bills paid plus a couple $2000.

I have another one right now that's a bit more interesting. A 21-year old gets out of alcohol rehab, and goes to the bar to celebrate. My client's stopped near a railroad crossing waiting for a train, and he smashes into her at ab out 40 mph, and screws her up. Then he tries to drive away, but his car only goes about half a block. He blew about a 0.29 right afterward, so the bar is probably on the hook too.

[BigDaddy]

it sounds like a great book justin

thanks for sharing

[illini]

it sounds like a great book justin

thanks for sharing

It does sound like a good book, problem is Amazon just emailed me and said they dont know when book is going to available and preordered on Aug 1st.

[Justin7]

It does sound like a good book, problem is Amazon just emailed me and said they dont know when book is going to available and preordered on Aug 1st.

They sold out of the first shipment. They'll request another batch next week, so it won't be a long delay... but you probably won't get it before the bash.

[Pokerjoe]

I love sportsbooks. I can't imagine a winning player who doesn't. I wish them well. Sports books who don't want to book sports suck. But inasmuch as a sportsbook does book sports, bless them all.

[Pokerjoe]

They sold out of the first shipment. They'll request another batch next week, so it won't be a long delay... but you probably won't get it before the bash.

Will it be available at the bash? For points or cash?

[Justin7]

Will it be available at the bash? For points or cash?

They will be at the bash. Cash only

[Pokerjoe]

Originally Posted by Justin7
Reason #4: Publishing this is +EV for me.

So you're a losing sports bettor?

It's very unfair to jump to this conclusion. EV calcs in life are very complex and personal; money can be a trivial part.

[Dark Horse]

I actually agree with Justin more in the sense that gambling, like smoking, much often than not, can ruin people's life because most people just don't know how to keep them in control, no matter how much they tried by learning, therapy, whatever. You can say a lot of things in life also come with risk, but these two are at much much higher level for ruining chances.

I'm familiar with the view. It's typically held by the anti-gambling crowd, and usually comes with the stereotype gambler who lost all. I'm just surprised to find any pro gamblers in agreement with this typecasting, a world full of victims wherein casinos are evil. About the last thing I expected. lol

[Justin7]

I'm familiar with the view. It's typically held by the anti-gambling crowd, and usually comes with the stereotype gambler who lost all. I'm just surprised to find any pro gamblers in agreement with this typecasting, a world full of victims wherein casinos are evil. About the last thing I expected. lol

Here's an appeal I lost, suing a casino that went after a compulsive gambler and ruined his life. The court held that even if a player puts himself on a self-exclude list, it's still ok for a Casino where he excluded himself to encourage him to come back.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/in-court-...s/1229525.html

[Pokerjoe]

I'm with Dark Horse on this one. There's no such thing as NOT-gambling.

Everytime you don't buy a lottery ticket, you're betting a dollar that you wouldn't have won. It's a good bet, but it is a bet.

There's no getting around gambling in life; there is some getting around stupid gambling; try for that.

[mathdotcom]

My last trial was a small auto-accident where the insurance wouldn't even offer to pay the person's bills. Basically told the person that was rear-ended to screw off. I had a small claims trial, and got her bills paid plus a couple $2000.

I have another one right now that's a bit more interesting. A 21-year old gets out of alcohol rehab, and goes to the bar to celebrate. My client's stopped near a railroad crossing waiting for a train, and he smashes into her at ab out 40 mph, and screws her up. Then he tries to drive away, but his car only goes about half a block. He blew about a 0.29 right afterward, so the bar is probably on the hook too.

I don't understand the second one. Who is 'her'? 49 times out of 50 I think the bar has zero responsibility in these cases.

[Justin7]

I don't understand the second one. Who is 'her'? 49 times out of 50 I think the bar has zero responsibility in these cases.

A bar as a legal duty to refuse to serve someone that is visibly intoxicated (in Indiana anyway). They can't profit at the expense of unknown drivers on the rode that a drunk will likely hit.

[Dark Horse]

Here's an appeal I lost, suing a casino that went after a compulsive gambler and ruined his life. The court held that even if a player puts himself on a self-exclude list, it's still ok for a Casino where he excluded himself to encourage him to come back.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/in-court-...s/1229525.html

Dark mentalities in all walks of life. Some sportsbooks are genuine, others are not.

I was just referring to the pure idea of a casino, which is neutral in my opinion. The idea that people are so helpless that they can't keep themselves out of a casino is just something I have to laugh at. I have a friend who was in precisely that position. After knowing him for some time he confided in me and my wife that he had this problem. Apparently, he was used to the typecasting, because he expressed tremendous relief when we just laughed at his ordeal as something silly and not worth the guilt he carried. He was stunned. He was used to people judging him, thereby confirming his role as loser. He proceeded to give us his ************ (to keep safe out of his reach), and that's how he broke his habit of many years. Just another angle. Not suggesting it works for everyone. I just don't believe in affirming the victim role, because it makes a man powerless. For the first time in many years my friend believed he did not have a serious problem. In that new belief he was already freed from a difficult past. The rest was easy. (he had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars to the one armed bandit).

People self-hypnotize all the time. If a person believes it will take a gradual process to break a hypnosis (habit), it will be so. If they believe they can snap out of the hypnosis in an instant, it will be so as well. I've seen both.

[mathdotcom]

A bar as a legal duty to refuse to serve someone that is visibly intoxicated (in Indiana anyway). They can't profit at the expense of unknown drivers on the rode that a drunk will likely hit.

And it is always perfectly visible who is more or less drunk than others. Unless you have evidence that this guy was completely falling over when ordering his drinks, the bar is completely off the hook.

[Dr.Gonzo]

Are you serious?

Good books about sports betting are few and far between. I count four among my prized possessions. Looking forward to make it five.

Obviously Wong's books but what are the others?

[Dr.Gonzo]

Obviously Wong's books but what are the others?

Sharp Sports Betting
Weighing the Odds
Win More, Lose Less
The Book

I'll try reading the thread before posting next time

[JohnGalt2341]

And it is always perfectly visible who is more or less drunk than others. Unless you have evidence that this guy was completely falling over when ordering his drinks, the bar is completely off the hook.

Agreed. I wish people would start taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming the Bar, Casino, or Fast Food chain for their obesity.

Now, for those of us that pre-ordered Conquering Risk through SBR when can we expect it's delivery?

[brumbies]

It's an interesting situation. Come to the bash, I'll explain it. Professor Howard is a Ph.D. of Psychology at Notre Dame. I am a quant guy, and he is almost my opposite. He wrote about 15% of the book, and most of that was not directly on sports betting.

Why can't you explain it here? I am sure I am not the only one who's curious.

[Maverick22]

Why can't you explain it here? I am sure I am not the only one who's curious.

If a man and a women conveive a child, the child is a product of both parents.

half of its genes come from the mother. and Half from the father.

So i guess to be fully correct a child is only partially the mother's or father's, but noone says that right?

You just say "Hey, this is my kid".

That should be reason enough (why over think it?)...

And if its not reason enough...well read what he said. stop. read it again.stop.do some critical thinking. then read it again. and you could come up with a half assed deducation from what he said. I did. But if he is offering to tell you at the bash, then I may be wrong. LOL.

[Peregrine Stoop]

Why can't you explain it here? I am sure I am not the only one who's curious.

has to build up excitement for the bash

[mathdotcom]

Agreed. I wish people would start taking responsibility for their own actions instead of blaming the Bar, Casino, or Fast Food chain for their obesity.

Now, for those of us that pre-ordered Conquering Risk through SBR when can we expect it's delivery?

A+++ post
Would expect nothing less from a poster with that handle

[CrimsonQueen]

Now, for those of us that pre-ordered Conquering Risk through SBR when can we expect it's delivery?

I just came here to ask the same question.... When do I get my book!

[BAUS]

They will be at the bash. Cash only

I think I will purchase a copy. Always looking to expand my sports betting library.

BAUS

[Dark Horse]

nm.

[brettd]

Where the hell can I get this book from online? I pre-booked with Amazon 6 weeks ago and haven't heard a thing. Is there anywhere else online that is stocking this book? I don't have enough points to order it from the SBR pointstore, and I daresay that even if I had the points, they're probably out too.

[Optional]

I was just referring to the pure idea of a casino, which is neutral in my opinion.

I'd love a list of those!

Communism sounded good in theory, as they say.