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    Automated Betting

    Hello,

    I'm interested in building an automated betting script for a major bookie. i wanted to ask if any1 has experience with doing this. has any1 here been found out, and what gave the game away?

    apart from the obvious timing or repetition problems, what things should i be considering. is there anything specific that could give the game away.

    thanks

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    I don't think U will succeed in ur endavour l33tspe4k phriend.

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    can't send PMs yet.

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    OK, i'm interested as well. does any1 here have/ build these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by subs View Post
    OK, i'm interested as well. does any1 here have/ build these?
    I think there's only value in doing that only for certain bookies, those that offer an API for this exact reason. Otherwise you will spend a lot of time coding one only to have it stop working every time the website changes (i.e. every other week).

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    Take a look at the source code to their mobile site, if they have one. Probably going to be simpler than the main site. This will be very challenging, though. Presumably you are going to be doing something like scraping off an odds site and then having your bot bet when certain criteria are met vs. another book/books' line? It would be quite tricky to identify which matchup is which, unless both the odds site and the sportsbook site use standard rotation numbers or some sort of other common identifier.

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    yes and you can ask me more specific questions by PM.

    For the record I'm not really interested in someone who writes anyone as any1. I'm also not interseted in doing your work for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgilmartin View Post
    It would be quite tricky to identify which matchup is which, unless both the odds site and the sportsbook site use standard rotation numbers or some sort of other common identifier.
    Some odds comparison sites have betslip links with various books. I would grab those links, load the page then run some validation to check that it is the correct matchup.

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    To build automated betting site, you have to process data from several bookmakers. They provides XML data. The problem is that data from bookmakers are really different, i.e "QPR - Chelsea" in one booky and "Queens Park Rangers - Chelsea" from another. Also odds data are different. Your system must be able to "match" this events, bets and odds. I was reading about this some time ago, but I gave up This looks to hard for me.

    Did you try to find ready-made solution in google?

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    check out automatic exchange betting - colin magee, lot of good stuff from my brief viewing.

    technical issues aside with automated betting, if you're using it to pick off surebets, stale prices etc then you will run in to the same problem as if you do it manually, restrictions and closure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pot luck View Post
    Some odds comparison sites have betslip links with various books. I would grab those links, load the page then run some validation to check that it is the correct matchup.
    Good idea; hadn't considered that.

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    This is not a solution. First of all, administrators can reject your connections if they detect your script. The second - if something changes on the website, your script will fetch wrong data. And the third - this is stealing

    Google: "sports betting cms"

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    Quote Originally Posted by prph View Post
    This is not a solution. First of all, administrators can reject your connections if they detect your script. The second - if something changes on the website, your script will fetch wrong data. And the third - this is stealing

    Google: "sports betting cms"
    This is the second time you have recomended using google and you have made two posts on this forum. Just saying.

    There is no legitimate way to do automated betting ( except on exchanges like betfair), terms and conditions often explicitly forbid it. But don't let that put you off. Bookies are cowboys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pot luck View Post
    This is the second time you have recomended using google and you have made two posts on this forum. Just saying.
    Because, there are answers. Search 'build betting script' and you will find a lot of inquiries on pages like Freelancer, where you can read "build using XML feeds provided by bookmakers". Also list of feeds is included so you can compare how much different they are.

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    No doubt there are some answers out there 'on the internet' but can't you be a bit more specific than "google x, y or z". Summarize what you have gleaned perhaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pot luck View Post
    There is no legitimate way to do automated betting ( except on exchanges like betfair), terms and conditions often explicitly forbid it. But don't let that put you off. Bookies are cowboys.
    The bigger players have automated betting, and it is both undetectable and fool-proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pot luck View Post
    No doubt there are some answers out there 'on the internet' but can't you be a bit more specific than "google x, y or z". Summarize what you have gleaned perhaps.
    It's pretty straightforward. If you can scrape, you can automate. It's simply a matter of either manipulating the DOM or posting a form.

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    i have probably had 50 requests from newbies who, for whatever reason, think that an automated betting system is the holy grail. first off it has nothing to do with APIs or RSS feeds. if one were to do it, it is like MF said and you need to use the DOM to populate the necessary fileds, team, play, wager amt, etc and then the verification fields- password- or whatever they use. i have coded some apps that automatically show 4-5 different books and lines screens - all without keyboard intrevention, but then the player makes actual wagers. this cuts down on login time etc. and facilitates getting the action down before the closing bell.

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