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    mebaran
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    can someone help me with the math here?

    I'm just staring at my screen, and for some reason, I'm struggling with this...someone please slap/help me :

    The line on a hockey total is:

    o5 -120 (~52.17% no-vig line)
    u5 EV (~47.83% no-vig line)

    I project the game total will be under 5 goals 45.21% of the time, and over 5 goals 37.26% of the time, and exactly 5 goals 17.53% of the time. What would my fair total line be? (Example: O/U 5, -109/109)

    For some reason I'm struggling with the math...I wish Ganchrow could pop in and brain slap me

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    take out the push and re-calculate the percent

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    So you're saying take the 45.21% and 37.26% and re-calculate into a fair line without a push like this:

    .3726/(.3726/.4521) = 45.18% (and 1 - 0.4518 = 54.82%)

    Assuming the above, the fair line would be O/U 5, 121.3/-121.3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mebaran View Post
    I'm just staring at my screen, and for some reason, I'm struggling with this...someone please slap/help me :

    The line on a hockey total is:

    o5 -120 (~52.17% no-vig line)
    u5 EV (~47.83% no-vig line)

    I project the game total will be under 5 goals 45.21% of the time, and over 5 goals 37.26% of the time, and exactly 5 goals 17.53% of the time. What would my fair total line be? (Example: O/U 5, -109/109)

    For some reason I'm struggling with the math...I wish Ganchrow could pop in and brain slap me
    Not to hijack your thread and I don't know which game your looking at, but your land 5 rate of 17.53 % looks way low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho sanza View Post

    Not to hijack your thread and I don't know which game your looking at, but your land 5 rate of 17.53 % looks way low.
    Yes, I'm aware of 5 being a key number. Those numbers are assuming games are infinitely long (which I obviously adjust for later)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho sanza View Post

    Not to hijack your thread and I don't know which game your looking at, but your land 5 rate of 17.53 % looks way low.
    So my ACTUAL final numbers would be:

    Over 5 ~44%
    5 Exactly ~23%
    Under 5 ~33%

    How would I calculate a fair total and line from this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mebaran View Post
    So my ACTUAL final numbers would be:

    Over 5 ~44%
    5 Exactly ~23%
    Under 5 ~33%

    How would I calculate a fair total and line from this?
    over 5 = 57.1 % (44/77)
    under 5.5 = 56 % (56/100)

    looks like

    5 ov -139/+129
    5.5 un -133/+123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho sanza View Post

    over 5 = 57.1 % (44/77)
    under 5.5 = 56 % (56/100)

    looks like

    5 ov -139/+129
    5.5 un -133/+123
    Much appreciated, sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pancho sanza View Post

    over 5 = 57.1 % (44/77)
    under 5.5 = 56 % (56/100)

    looks like

    5 ov -139/+129
    5.5 un -133/+123
    So just to clarify, if I was setting the FAIR line in this example, it would be o/u 5, -139/+139?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mebaran View Post
    So just to clarify, if I was setting the FAIR line in this example, it would be o/u 5, -139/+139?
    No, -133/+133

    Use this formula from ganchrows vba functions.

    ProbEdge2US(Probability, Edge) or ProbEdge2Dec(Probability, Edge): Calculates US or decimal odds based on probability and edge. Example: ProbEdge2US(55%,5%) = -110.

    plug in 57.1 % with zero vig and you'll get -133
    Last edited by Pancho sanza; 11-23-11 at 03:56 PM.

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