[koz-man]

I tend to agree. Jimenez had Hall of Fame written all over him several years ago. Now, I'm not so sure...

Plus, I'd much rather have Mat Latos on my staff than Ubaldo.

I too, Much more prefer Latos than Jimenez.

Reds rotation is
1. J. Cueto
2. M. Latos
3. H. Bailey
4. M. Leake
5. T. Cingrani

My concern is what if one goes down or Tony Cingrani can't handle the increase number of innings.

What will the back up plan be?

Not sure about the farm system, but will be researching that soon.

[koz-man]

Ubaldo Jimenez signed a 4 year deal, 50 million with the Baltinore Orioles.

The Free Agent list is drying up quick.

[MexicanStallion]

I too, Much more prefer Latos than Jimenez.

Reds rotation is
1. J. Cueto
2. M. Latos
3. H. Bailey
4. M. Leake
5. T. Cingrani

My concern is what if one goes down or Tony Cingrani can't handle the increase number of innings.

What will the back up plan be?

Not sure about the farm system, but will be researching that soon.

I don't think there should be any issue with Cingrani. He pitched 146 innings in 2012 and almost 140 innings in 2013.

They picked up Holmberg from Tampa Bay for Hanigan and he appears to be on the cusp of the majors. Corcino needs to rebound from his 2013 season, but he has been in AAA. The farm system has a bright future of pitching in the next 2-3 years. Stephenson is probably a year to a year and a half away.

Chien Ming-Wang and Jeff Francis are around for depth or emergency early in the season.

[Shortstop]

Reds rotation is
1. J. Cueto
2. M. Latos
3. H. Bailey
4. M. Leake
5. T. Cingrani

Nice looking starting 5 right here.

Homer broke the bank today. I just love the fact that a pitcher's first name is "Homer"

[koz-man]

Nice looking starting 5 right here.

Homer broke the bank today. I just love the fact that a pitcher's first name is "Homer"

6 year guaranteed $105 million.

[MexicanStallion]

6 year guaranteed $105 million.

Cincinnati should be happy about keeping one of their own guys yet seems like a lot are disappointed. It's funny for a city who is always upset about not spending money, does and still unhappy.

[Mitchell88]

Cincinnati should be happy about keeping one of their own guys yet seems like a lot are disappointed. It's funny for a city who is always upset about not spending money, does and still unhappy.

I don't understand it either Mex, there is no making them happy. For years they have complained about not giving out the contracts to keep people they do and now people think it was to big of a contract

[Shortstop]

Cincinnati should be happy about keeping one of their own guys yet seems like a lot are disappointed. It's funny for a city who is always upset about not spending money, does and still unhappy.

You mean Reds fans are disappointed about keeping Bailey, the amount of his contract, or both?

I agree that seems like entirely too much money to be paying a #3 starter.

Apparently, tossing no-hitters in back-to-back years carries a lot of weight at the negotiation table!

However, we're in a players market these days. Guys are receiving crazy amounts of money...

[koz-man]

You mean Reds fans are disappointed about keeping Bailey, the amount of his contract, or both?

I agree that seems like entirely too much money to be paying a #3 starter.

Apparently, tossing no-hitters in back-to-back years carries a lot of weight at the negotiation table!

However, we're in a players market these days. Guys are receiving crazy amounts of money...

The more I think about it. The more I believe he deserves the money.

I know his record isn't anything to brag about, But I believe he is going to get better as hes moves on.

A lot of his loses were close games. When he takes the mound he (more than less) keeps the Reds in the game.

Nothing he can do if the Reds don't score runs. Except throw a No-Hitter!!!

[Andy117]

The more I think about it. The more I believe he deserves the money.

I know his record isn't anything to brag about, But I believe he is going to get better as hes moves on.

A lot of his loses were close games. When he takes the mound he (more than less) keeps the Reds in the game.

Nothing he can do if the Reds don't score runs. Except throw a No-Hitter!!!

That's a ton of money for a guy you hope gets better. So far he's been a #3.

[MexicanStallion]

You mean Reds fans are disappointed about keeping Bailey, the amount of his contract, or both?

I agree that seems like entirely too much money to be paying a #3 starter.

Apparently, tossing no-hitters in back-to-back years carries a lot of weight at the negotiation table!

However, we're in a players market these days. Guys are receiving crazy amounts of money...

I think it has more to do with the money. I think baseball money is insane too, but it's the going rate for these kind of baseball players. I think the deal is fair compared to what other players of his status would receive.

It depends how you view him. I don't expect Cueto here once his deal is over. I'm hoping they lock Latos up and he would become the ace if he already isn't this season. Homer would be considered a #2 pitcher. Reds have a lot of pitching prospects, so if anybody pans out specifically Stephenson can be your #3 and Cingrani 4th and so on.

[Chi_archie]

Cincinnati should be happy about keeping one of their own guys yet seems like a lot are disappointed. It's funny for a city who is always upset about not spending money, does and still unhappy.

maybe they just think that money could be better spent in the coming years on other guys.

as a pirate fan I have some satisfaction in them tying that money up with him

[Shortstop]

I think it has more to do with the money. I think baseball money is insane too, but it's the going rate for these kind of baseball players. I think the deal is fair compared to what other players of his status would receive.

It depends how you view him. I don't expect Cueto here once his deal is over. I'm hoping they lock Latos up and he would become the ace if he already isn't this season. Homer would be considered a #2 pitcher. Reds have a lot of pitching prospects, so if anybody pans out specifically Stephenson can be your #3 and Cingrani 4th and so on.

Gotcha. Thanks for the response, Stallion.

As far as I'm concerned, Latos is your Ace. I need to win 1 game, I'm giving the ball to Latos.

[koz-man]

I think it has more to do with the money. I think baseball money is insane too, but it's the going rate for these kind of baseball players. I think the deal is fair compared to what other players of his status would receive.

It depends how you view him. I don't expect Cueto here once his deal is over. I'm hoping they lock Latos up and he would become the ace if he already isn't this season. Homer would be considered a #2 pitcher. Reds have a lot of pitching prospects, so if anybody pans out specifically Stephenson can be your #3 and Cingrani 4th and so on.

2014 is Cueto last year of a four-year, $27 million deal. He does have option for $10 million next year.

Not sure what the Reds plans are for him, But I got a feeling he will be gone.

Would love to get Latos signed and hopefully Stephenson or some other youngster steps up to complete the rotation.

[Chi_archie]

ervin santana still on the market?

[MexicanStallion]

ervin santana still on the market?

Yup. He is about the last named free agent available after Nelson Cruz signed with Baltimore today.

[Shortstop]

The Orioles now have Nelson Cruz. Quite the offense they're putting together down there!

I also heard they are still in touch with Ervin Santana.

However they'd have to forfeit a 2nd round draft pick if they sign him.

Has Kendrys Morales signed anywhere yet? I know the Pirates had some interest...

[greenhippo]

Have a fantasy draft setup for March 5, too early?

[Shortstop]

Now the Texas Rangers are showing strong interest in Ervin Santana.

Makes sense considering the freak injury to Derek Holland and now Matt Harrison is having lower back problems.

The Rangers starting staff could really use a lift...

[Chi_archie]

Have a fantasy draft setup for March 5, too early?

not really

[MexicanStallion]

Anybody have the scoop on some Prospects who could get called up late this year? I'm in a Dynasty League and could use some names outside of the big ones. Not top 20 prospects.

[burmaldo]

Anybody have the scoop on some Prospects who could get called up late this year? I'm in a Dynasty League and could use some names outside of the big ones. Not top 20 prospects.

Got the same scoop going on.. Mine more so for pitchers than any there position

[MexicanStallion]

Got the same scoop going on.. Mine more so for pitchers than any there position

My team didn't have much. It came with Oscar Taveras and Danny Hultzen. I picked up Kyle Zimmer from KC as my not obvious prospect for pitching if it helps any.

[koz-man]

The Orioles now have Nelson Cruz. Quite the offense they're putting together down there!

I also heard they are still in touch with Ervin Santana.

However they'd have to forfeit a 2nd round draft pick if they sign him.

Has Kendrys Morales signed anywhere yet? I know the Pirates had some interest...

Not that I've heard.

Stephen Drew is still on the market as well.

Kind of surprised that these 2 are not signed yet, But then again I think Scott Boras is their agent.

[Andy117]

Not that I've heard.

Stephen Drew is still on the market as well.

Kind of surprised that these 2 are not signed yet, But then again I think Scott Boras is their agent.

The last thing I heard about Drew was that he was asking for a multi-year contract with an opt-out after the first year.

[Shortstop]

Not that I've heard.

Stephen Drew is still on the market as well.

Kind of surprised that these 2 are not signed yet, But then again I think Scott Boras is their agent.

I read earlier that Drew rejected a $14.1 M deal with Boston.

As a result, any team which signs Drew would have to give the Red Sox a draft pick.

[Shortstop]

Drew likely won't return to Boston according to their GM.

The teams left that may be interested are the Blue Jays, Athletics, Yankees, Pirates and Mets.

[koz-man]

Drew likely won't return to Boston according to their GM.

The teams left that may be interested are the Blue Jays, Athletics, Yankees, Pirates and Mets.

I can see the Yankees going after him.

[MexicanStallion]

Finally baseball is kicking off with some Spring games for Wednesday. It has been a long long long wait for me.

[Andy117]

I can see the Yankees going after him.

In almost any off season that applies to virtually any player.

[Mitchell88]

Drew likely won't return to Boston according to their GM.

The teams left that may be interested are the Blue Jays, Athletics, Yankees, Pirates and Mets.

I heard that he might return to the sox but it will be for like 8mil. I would be so pissed at Boris if I was him

[Shortstop]

I heard that he might return to the sox but it will be for like 8mil. I would be so pissed at Boris if I was him

That may be his only option for the kind of money he and Boras are demanding.

I think he was completely crazy to turn down $14.1 M.

Like you said, his agent probably had a lot to do with that.

[koz-man]

In almost any off season that applies to virtually any player.

lol,,, so true

[Andy117]

That may be his only option for the kind of money he and Boras are demanding.

I think he was completely crazy to turn down $14.1 M.

Like you said, his agent probably had a lot to do with that.

Boras doesn't always win. He almost always wins with his big guys though.

[Shortstop]

This kid is going to be a star.

Polanco will be the Pirates starting right fielder before not too long...

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/41332114/v31391083