[coop]

Who do you guys think has the best value? I have Michael Vick as a keeper, so I'm going to have to an invest an earlier pick than I'd like drafting a QB2. Who should I target? Was thinking about Cutler, Luck, or Romo depending where they go.

Here are the QBs ranked according to their Yahoo ADP:

Some interesting notes:
- Tebow (ppl are insane)
- RG3 going way higher than Luck (Cam Newton effect?)
- Flacco being that far down the list
- Rivers (will he bounce back? could have value)
- Romo the 9th QB being taken...feel like its been a few years since public perception of him has been this low
- Peyton in the 5th seems pretty high risk

Aaron Rodgers
(GB - QB) 4.2 1.1 100%
Drew Brees
(NO - QB) 9.1 1.4 100%
Tom Brady
(NE - QB) 9.9 1.5 100%
Cam Newton
(Car - QB) 13.0 1.8 100%
Matthew Stafford
(Det - QB) 17.5 2.2 100%
Michael Vick
(Phi - QB) 44.5 5.1 100%
Eli Manning
(NYG - QB) 49.8 5.7 100%
Peyton Manning
(Den - QB) 50.8 5.7 100%
Tony Romo
(Dal - QB) 59.8 6.6 100%
Philip Rivers
(SD - QB) 69.6 7.7 100%
Robert Griffin III
(Was - QB) 80.5 8.8 100%
Jay Cutler
(Chi - QB) 86.5 9.5 100%
Matt Ryan
(Atl - QB) 88.4 9.7 100%
Ben Roethlisberger
(Pit - QB) 91.5 9.9 100%
Matt Schaub
(Hou - QB) 109.8 11.8 100%
Alex Smith
(SF - QB) 116.9 12.6 15%
Mark Sanchez
(NYJ - QB) 117.1 12.7 5%
Tim Tebow
(NYJ - QB) 117.5 12.7 6%
Andrew Luck
(Ind - QB) 118.0 12.6 89%
Sam Bradford
(StL - QB) 120.1 13.5 5%
Jake Locker
(Ten - QB) 121.6 13.6 2%
Matt Flynn
(Sea - QB) 121.6 13.6 6%
Carson Palmer
(Oak - QB) 123.3 13.3 95%
Andy Dalton
(Cin - QB) 123.7 13.2 88%
Ryan Fitzpatrick
(Buf - QB) 124.4 14.0 16%
Josh Freeman
(TB - QB) 125.4 13.4 90%
Joe Flacco
(Bal - QB) 128.0 13.8 65%

[Bigbill365]

dude youll be able to get cutler in 3rd 4th romo maybe 3rd but he usually gos 2nd round

[Bigbill365]

haha sam bradford you can get him last pick no lie

[Andy117]

Romo as the 9th QB off the board is a nice option.

[BigSpoon]

I've not seen any mock drafts where Matt Ryan gets picked that low.

[LT Profits]

I've not seen any mock drafts where Matt Ryan gets picked that low.

I got Ryan in the sixth round tonight. I was #2 in a 12-team league so took Ryan 71st. Based in ADP, best values may be Ryan and Cutler.

[coop]

Thoughts on Matt Schaub?

[MexicanStallion]

I'm a fan of Matt Ryan this season. Thanks for sharing those numbers.

[Koldazzice]

I'm real high on matt ryan as well.

[LT Profits]

Thoughts on Matt Schaub?

Great QB2, questionable as starter (but great upside if he stays healthy all year).

[convick]

Love Ryan and Cutler.

I like Palmer as a late round pick too. Id rather have him as a backup than RG3 or Tebow/Sanchez for sure.

Peyton definitely seems overvalued.

[coop]

Lets broaden this discussion to overall ADP and spotting value, I feel like some good stuff is in here about QBs so far. The list does seems a little inaccurate, I guess the vast majority of fantasy players are in hamburger leagues.

Stuff to look at (overrated/underrated):
- Reggie Bush at 70 seems very late for him. I mean he's getting picked after defenses.
- I think Victor Cruz is going too early
- Murray and Charles in the 3rd could make or break a lot of teams
- Can get Nelson a full round later than Jennings
- AJ Green and Mike Wallace as late 3rd/early 4th? Too early?
- Antonio Gates at the bottom of the 5th
- Who are the RBs to take flyers on mid-late? I figure if you take about 3 of these backs with potential, you'll get one stud

Arian Foster
(Hou - RB) 1.5 1.0 100%
Ray Rice
(Bal - RB) 2.9 1.0 100%
LeSean McCoy
(Phi - RB) 4.0 1.1 100%
Aaron Rodgers
(GB - QB) 4.2 1.1 100%
Calvin Johnson
(Det - WR) 5.9 1.1 100%
Ryan Mathews
(SD - RB) 6.8 1.1 100%
Maurice Jones-Drew
(Jac - RB) 9.1 1.3 100%
Drew Brees
(NO - QB) 9.1 1.4 100%
Tom Brady
(NE - QB) 9.9 1.5 100%
Chris Johnson
(Ten - RB) 10.0 1.4 100%
Larry Fitzgerald
(Ari - WR) 11.7 1.8 100%
Cam ton
(Car - QB) 13.0 1.8 100%
Trent Richardson
(Cle - RB) 14.7 2.1 100%
Jimmy Graham
(NO - TE) 16.2 2.2 100%
Darren McFadden
(Oak - RB) 16.2 2.2 100%
Rob Gronkowski
(NE - TE) 16.7 2.2 100%
Matthew Stafford
(Det - QB) 17.5 2.2 100%
Adrian Peterson
(Min - RB) 17.8 2.3 100%
Matt Forte
(Chi - RB) 20.3 2.7 100%
Roddy White
(Atl - WR) 21.0 2.7 100%
Victor Cruz
(NYG - WR) 21.8 2.9 100%
Andre Johnson
(Hou - WR) 23.8 3.0 100%
Marshawn Lynch
(Sea - RB) 24.0 3.1 100%
Brandon Marshall
(Chi - WR) 24.8 3.1 100%
Greg Jennings
(GB - WR) 26.5 3.2 100%
DeMarco Murray
(Dal - RB) 27.1 3.3 100%
Wes Welker
(NE - WR) 29.1 3.6 100%
A.J. Green
(Cin - WR) 29.2 3.6 100%
Jamaal Charles
(KC - RB) 31.8 3.8 100%
Mike Wallace
(Pit - WR) 32.0 3.9 100%
Julio Jones
(Atl - WR) 32.7 4.0 100%
Hakeem Nicks
(NYG - WR) 33.1 4.1 100%
Steve Smith
(Car - WR) 35.8 4.2 100%
Jordy Nelson
(GB - WR) 36.8 4.4 100%
Miles Austin
(Dal - WR) 38.9 4.5 100%
Fred Jackson
(Buf - RB) 39.1 4.6 100%
Michael Turner
(Atl - RB) 39.6 4.6 100%
Demaryius Thomas
(Den - WR) 41.0 4.8 100%
Marques Colston
(NO - WR) 42.8 5.1 100%
Dez Bryant
(Dal - WR) 43.7 5.1 100%
Jeremy Maclin
(Phi - WR) 44.3 5.2 100%
Antonio Gates
(SD - TE) 44.7 5.1 100%
Michael Vick
(Phi - QB) 44.7 5.2 100%
Steven Jackson
(StL - RB) 47.4 5.4 100%
Percy Harvin
(Min - WR) 49.0 5.6 100%
Eli Manning
(NYG - QB) 49.8 5.6 100%
Peyton Manning
(Den - QB) 50.9 5.7 100%
Aaron Hernandez
(NE - TE) 51.0 5.9 100%
Doug Martin
(TB - RB) 51.3 5.8 100%
Dwayne Bowe
(KC - WR) 52.5 6.0 100%
Darren Sproles
(NO - RB) 53.6 6.1 100%
Brandon Lloyd
(NE - WR) 53.8 6.2 100%
Vernon Davis
(SF - TE) 54.3 6.2 100%
Kenny Britt
(Ten - WR) 55.4 6.2 100%
Vincent Jackson
(TB - WR) 57.4 6.6 100%
San Francisco
(SF - DEF) 58.4 6.6 100%
Frank Gore
(SF - RB) 59.6 6.8 100%
Tony Romo
(Dal - QB) 59.9 6.6 100%
Jermichael Finley
(GB - TE) 59.9 6.8 100%
DeSean Jackson
(Phi - WR) 61.5 7.0 100%
Antonio Brown
(Pit - WR) 62.3 7.1 100%
Stevie Johnson
(Buf - WR) 64.1 7.3 100%
Jason Witten
(Dal - TE) 64.2 7.2 100%
Ahmad Bradshaw
(NYG - RB) 64.6 7.3 100%
Fred Davis
(Was - TE) 64.6 7.2 100%
Pittsburgh
(Pit - DEF) 68.8 7.8 100%
Philip Rivers
(SD - QB) 69.7 7.7 100%
Eric Decker
(Den - WR) 70.2 7.8 100%
Baltimore
(Bal - DEF) 70.3 7.9 100%
Reggie Bush
(Mia - RB) 70.6 7.9 100%
Mason Crosby
(GB - K) 72.2 8.0 100%
Chicago
(Chi - DEF) 75.5 8.4 100%
Sebastian Janikowski
(Oak - K) 77.6 8.5 100%
Green Bay
(GB - DEF) 77.9 8.6 100%
Brandon Pettigrew
(Det - TE) 80.3 8.8 100%
Robert Griffin III
(Was - QB) 80.6 8.8 100%
David Akers
(SF - K) 80.9 8.9 100%
Philadelphia
(Phi - DEF) 81.5 8.9 100%
BenJarvus Green-Ellis
(Cin - RB) 84.8 9.3 100%
Robert Meachem
(SD - WR) 84.9 9.3 100%
Tony Gonzalez
(Atl - TE) 85.1 9.3 100%
Stephen Gostkowski
(NE - K) 85.6 9.4 100%
Torrey Smith
(Bal - WR) 86.2 9.5 100%
Jay Cutler
(Chi - QB) 86.5 9.5 100%
Beanie Wells
(Ari - RB) 86.8 9.5 100%
Matt Ryan
(Atl - QB) 88.0 9.7 100%
Roy Helu
(Was - RB) 89.3 9.9 100%
Reggie Wayne
(Ind - WR) 89.5 9.9 100%
Ben Roethlisberger
(Pit - QB) 91.5 9.9 100%
Houston
(Hou - DEF) 92.2 10.0 100%
Shonn Greene
(NYJ - RB) 92.3 10.1 99%
Dan Bailey
(Dal - K) 94.8 10.3 100%
Pierre Garcon
(Was - WR) 95.8 10.5 100%
Seattle
(Sea - DEF) 96.1 10.4 99%
Willis McGahee
(Den - RB) 96.5 10.5 93%
Jonathan Stewart
(Car - RB) 97.8 10.5 99%
John Kasay
(NO - K) 99.5 10.8 99%
Detroit
(Det - DEF) 99.9 11.1 99%
Isaac Redman
(Pit - RB) 100.4 11.0 96%
Peyton Hillis
(KC - RB) 101.7 11.0 94%
Santonio Holmes
(NYJ - WR) 102.1 11.0 100%
Sidney Rice
(Sea - WR) 102.7 11.2 100%
Justin Blackmon
(Jac - WR) 104.9 11.5 100%
Darrius Heyward-Bey
(Oak - WR) 105.5 11.4 100%
Dan Carpenter
(Mia - K) 109.4 11.8 93%
DeAngelo Williams
(Car - RB) 109.6 12.0 54%
Randy Moss
(SF - WR) 109.6 12.0 58%
Jahvid Best
(Det - RB) 109.7 11.8 71%
Matt Schaub
(Hou - QB) 109.7 11.8 100%
Jacob Tamme
(Den - TE) 110.5 11.9 100%
Anquan Boldin
(Bal - WR) 110.6 12.0 100%
Neil Rackers
(Was - K) 111.1 12.0 92%
Greg Little
(Cle - WR) 111.3 12.1 99%
Michael Bush
(Chi - RB) 112.0 12.3 46%
Denarius Moore
(Oak - WR) 112.7 12.3 99%
Stevan Ridley
(NE - RB) 112.9 12.6 35%
Donald Brown
(Ind - RB) 113.0 12.5 32%
York
(NYJ - DEF) 113.7 12.4 98%
Joseph Addai
(NE - RB) NA 114.0 12.2 2%
Malcom Floyd
(SD - WR) 114.1 12.3 99%
Rashard Mendenhall
(Pit - RB) 114.5 12.4 33%
Mike Nugent
(Cin - K) 115.0 12.3 88%
Orleans
(NO - DEF) 115.2 12.2 4%
Devin Hester
(Chi - WR) 115.5 12.4 4%
Adam Vinatieri
(Ind - K) 115.5 12.1 5%
Mike Williams
(TB - WR) 115.8 12.5 98%
Washington
(Was - DEF) 116.1 12.3 2%
San Diego
(SD - DEF) 116.3 12.3 2%
Cedric Benson
(GB - RB) 116.4 12.5 18%
Oakland
(Oak - DEF) 116.5 12.3 3%
Mark Ingram
(NO - RB) 116.7 12.7 27%
Alex Smith
(SF - QB) 116.8 12.6 15%
Dallas
(Dal - DEF) No 116.8 12.4 22%
Kansas City
(KC - DEF) No 116.9 12.4 4%
Shaun Suisham
(Pit - K) 117.0 12.2 4%
C.J. Spiller
(Buf - RB) 117.1 12.8 30%
Mark Sanchez
(NYJ - QB) 117.1 12.7 5%
Donald Driver
(GB - WR) No 117.1 12.4 3%
Ben Tate
(Hou - RB) No 117.5 13.0 33%
Heath Miller
(Pit - TE) No 117.7 12.4 8%
Andrew Luck
(Ind - QB) 117.8 12.6 90%
Nick Folk
(NYJ - K) 117.8 12.4 2%
Tim Tebow
(NYJ - QB) 117.9 12.8 6%
Kevin Smith
(Det - RB) No 118.2 13.0 9%
Josh Scobee
(Jac - K) No 118.4 12.6 2%
James Starks
(GB - RB) 118.7 13.5 19%
Miami
(Mia - DEF) No 118.9 12.5 2%
David Wilson
(NYG - RB) 119.1 13.3 19%
Michael Crabtree
(SF - WR) 119.7 12.9 95%
Olindo Mare
(Car - K) No 119.8 12.9 2%
Brandon Jacobs
(SF - RB) 119.9 13.0 3%
Lance Moore
(NO - WR) 120.1 12.9 95%
Denver
(Den - DEF) No 120.1 13.2 6%
Sam Bradford
(StL - QB) 120.2 13.5 5%
Rob Bironas
(Ten - K) 120.3 12.8 89%
Deion Branch
(NE - WR) 120.4 12.9 3%
Jacoby Ford
(Oak - WR) 120.5 12.9 2%
Santana Moss
(Was - WR) No 120.6 12.9 94%
Mikel LeShoure
(Det - RB) 120.8 13.5 13%
Titus Young
(Det - WR) 121.0 13.2 32%
Felix Jones
(Dal - RB) 121.2 13.4 4%
Martellus Bennett
(NYG - TE) No 121.3 12.7 3%
LaMichael James
(SF - RB) 121.4 13.0 3%
Matt Flynn
(Sea - QB) 121.4 13.5 6%
Lawrence Tynes
(NYG - K) No 121.4 12.7 2%
Minnesota
(Min - DEF) No 121.6 13.4 3%
Phil Dawson
(Cle - K) No 121.8 13.0 3%
Jake Locker
(Ten - QB) 121.9 13.7 3%
Jacquizz Rodgers
(Atl - RB) No 122.0 13.8 8%
Tony Moeaki
(KC - TE) No 122.0 13.1 4%
Randall Cobb
(GB - WR) No 122.2 13.2 5%
LeGarrette Blount
(TB - RB) 122.5 13.3 21%
Rashad Jennings
(Jac - RB) 122.5 13.5 4%
Rian Lindell
(Buf - K) No 122.6 12.8 2%
Tennessee
(Ten - DEF) No 122.6 13.0 2%
Owen Daniels
(Hou - TE) No 123.1 13.3 98%
Pierre Thomas
(NO - RB) 123.3 13.4 12%
Carson Palmer
(Oak - QB) 123.3 13.3 95%
Terrell Owens
(Sea - WR) 123.3 13.3 7%
Tim Hightower
(Was - RB) 123.5 13.9 5%
Chad Johnson
(Mia - WR) NA No 123.5 14.4 4%
Andy Dalton
(Cin - QB) No 123.6 13.2 87%
Jon Baldwin
(KC - WR) No 123.6 13.5 4%
Vincent Brown
(SD - WR) 123.8 13.6 3%
Ryan Williams
(Ari - RB) 123.9 13.9 8%
Jermaine Gresham
(Cin - TE) 124.0 13.4 98%
Ronnie Hillman
(Den - RB) 124.1 14.7 3%
Mario Manningham
(SF - WR) 124.1 13.4 20%
Ryan Fitzpatrick
(Buf - QB) 124.4 14.0 16%
Atlanta
(Atl - DEF) No 124.5 13.4 5%
Nate Washington
(Ten - WR) 124.6 13.4 93%
Austin Collie
(Ind - WR) 124.7 13.5 9%
Plaxico Burress
(NYJ - WR) NA No 124.8 13.2 5%
Brent Celek
(Phi - TE) 124.9 13.4 97%
Toby Gerhart
(Min - RB) 125.0 14.0 9%
Josh Freeman
(TB - QB) 125.4 13.4 90%
Mike Tolbert
(Car - RB) 125.4 13.7 6%
New York
(NYG - DEF) No 125.5 13.2 71%
Jerome Simpson
(Min - WR) 125.6 14.7 3%
Danny Amendola
(StL - WR) 125.7 13.8 5%
Jabar Gaffney
(NE - WR) 125.9 13.5 4%

[dynamite140]

kolb would,be very good

[mintpicks79]

I'm feeling Carson Palmer this season.

[BigSpoon]

Russell Wilson looked good earlier tonight, prob still not worth drafting though.

[onlooker]

Matt Ryan. I drafted him 6th round, 72nd overall.

New up tempo offense, two great WR's, and a TE with good hands. If they use Quizz like Sproles, it could be even better for Ryan.

I hope he turns out to be last years Matthew Stafford.