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    Won with Ball State the last two weeks, will take them again tonight

    I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. Here's what I've concluded:

    -Keith Wenning will throw for more than 315 yards for Ball State
    -David Fluellen will rush for more than 200 yards for Toledo
    -Ball State will control time of possession
    -Toledo will get great special teams play and get at least 1 INT
    -Combination of Scott/Edwards will rush for more than 150 yards for Ball State
    -Toledo's defense will be wore down in the 4th Qtr by Ball State's balance
    -The backdoor cover WILL be in play in this game for Ball State, if they don't keep it close.

    Final Score:
    Ball State 31
    Toledo 35

    Ball State is 12-3 ATS in their last 15 games and 4-1 ATS on the road this year.

    BALL STATE +6.5

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    Couple more notes for tonight:

    -Toledo is in a look-ahead spot to 9-1 Northern Illinois next week, especially since Toledo beat Ball St last year.

    -Ball State more motivated in this game, going up against a top-25 team and with revenge angle

    -Toledo has benefited from 5 pick-sixes in their last 5 games, as well as a three special teams returns for TDs. If those types of scores don't happen for them tonight, Ball State will win this game outright. I don't like to depend on flukey scores.

    -Toledo only led Central Mich 40-35 with 3 minutes to play.

    -Toledo trailed Buffalo 14-7 at halftime.

    -Toledo beat Cinci on a pick-six and kick return for a TD. Cinci should have won the game.

    -Toledo allowed Eastern Michigan's RB Hill to pile up 283 rushing yards a couple weeks ago.
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    Could not agree more. Love +6.5 and now close to pulling the trigger on money line +220. GL!
    Nov 06 08:40 AM
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    [101] BALL STATE +6½-110
    385/350

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machine Choice View Post
    I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. Here's what I've concluded:

    -Keith Wenning will throw for more than 315 yards for Ball State
    -David Fluellen will rush for more than 200 yards for Toledo
    -Ball State will control time of possession
    -Toledo will get great special teams play and get at least 1 INT
    -Combination of Scott/Edwards will rush for more than 150 yards for Ball State
    -Toledo's defense will be wore down in the 4th Qtr by Ball State's balance
    -The backdoor cover WILL be in play in this game for Ball State, if they don't keep it close.

    Final Score:
    Ball State 31
    Toledo 35

    Ball State is 12-3 ATS in their last 15 games and 4-1 ATS on the road this year.

    BALL STATE +6.5
    Great analysis!

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    wow now this is useful stuff. thanks

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    line up to 7, should move another half point before kickoff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lockitup_Panda View Post
    line up to 7, should move another half point before kickoff.
    where do you see that? i see 6.5 everywhere

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    ball state been on the road the last couple weeks. this is the 3rd road game in a row, any of you guys worried about this?

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    Im taking Toledo ML

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    Quote Originally Posted by ridims View Post
    ball state been on the road the last couple weeks. this is the 3rd road game in a row, any of you guys worried about this?
    My number one antagonist, my struggles in winning plays continues so can you help me out with some winners? Also, this struggling player would like for you to check your inbox. I found it kind of humorous that you never responded to my last message to you, but it is understandable why! I still would like to see some screen shots of your plays, so can you provide that to us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife View Post
    My number one antagonist, my struggles in winning plays continues so can you help me out with some winners? Also, this struggling player would like for you to check your inbox. I found it kind of humorous that you never responded to my last message to you, but it is understandable why! I still would like to see some screen shots of your plays, so can you provide that to us?
    funny i never read it. not worth the time to be honest. .. your a born loser. natural loser actually. the struggling sbr member who feels the need to send pm's to people because he cannot handle the truth about how much of a loser he actually is.

    priceless.

    just a suggestion to you. go meet people outside of this forum. make friends. spend time doing something else because its obvious you have issues within your life. do something productive.

    good bye!

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    I am sure you read my messages, so now post some screen shots of your picks. Several on here know who I am and where I reside, so no need for me to have to be someone I am not, as my actions speak my words, unlike you. Has your Avon sales picked up yet, to the point you can actually make a play? Have you moved out of your mom and dads basement yet? Now that is what you call struggling, and I am being serious.

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    The back to back to back road games has me second guessing a little bit. Looking at the stats they are very similar, I'd give a slight edge to Toledo on defense (look at 3rd down conversion and red zone %) and a little more of an edge based on their offense playing at home. Good spot to tease Ball State up to 14 right now and leave one spot open for tomorrow's MAC game, NBA total or NFL game. That's my game plan anyways.

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    Toledo has finally gotten ranked inside the BCS, Toledo will be a mad house tonight and there stadium will be insane as well. I do not see them losing or winning by less than a TD. Ive seen what toledos stadium looks like when its packed. No way ball state goes in their and get a win.

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    i'm on u69 if it's 35-31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surffreak View Post
    Toledo has finally gotten ranked inside the BCS, Toledo will be a mad house tonight and there stadium will be insane as well. I do not see them losing or winning by less than a TD. Ive seen what toledos stadium looks like when its packed. No way ball state goes in their and get a win.
    I agree. Going with the spread: Ball State at Toledo Toledo -6.5 Best of Luck!!!

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    A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machine Choice View Post
    A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?
    In toledo..... yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machine Choice View Post
    A lot of people may stay home to watch election returns. Is the stadium really going to be a madhouse for BALL STATE?
    Do you follow the MAC? The place will be wild.

    One small angle you left out. The game is on national tv. And any perception you had about Ball State being "more motivated" is wrong. Toledo will not be flat. Not with a national television audience.

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    bout a 3 1/2 hour drive between the two schools

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    Toledo rolls in this one


    Ball St 28
    Toledo 42

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    I didn't know there was such a thing as Tues night college ball.

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    One thing I don't understand is how you predict Ball St. will control the time of possession, yet have Toledo rushing for 200 yards...would that not incur a lot of time on their behalf?

    I'm rolling with Ball St...and with both teams rushing the ball well, I think that always the score to stay closer.

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    Toledo is in the top 25 for the first time in 11 years. I just don't see Ball State more motivated than Toledo..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machine Choice View Post
    I've looked at this matchup for three hours now. ....BALL STATE +6.5




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    Thanks Machine, great info and analysis

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    Looks like almost all predictions came to be except the actual outright winner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamDiamond View Post
    Do you follow the MAC? The place will be wild.

    One small angle you left out. The game is on national tv. And any perception you had about Ball State being "more motivated" is wrong. Toledo will not be flat. Not with a national television audience.
    Get it back tomorrow, Diamond.

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    Boom

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