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    Troy at FIU

    Tough line,

    seems very close at FIU -6.5

    I think I am leaning more towards taking Troy

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    waiting on a total.

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    I took FIU, waiting to hear people thoughts on total as well

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    Does anyone know anything about Troy? I can't say I've seen them play much over the years, but I've bet them and always came out on the black. But two weeks ago I took them -9 at home at night and they got hammered by ULM. what the hell happened? Was that an abberation, or are they just not the same team the program is used to putting out. I'd like to take FIU, but if Troy is good enough to win this game I don't want to mess with it. Please advise!

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    troy is not the same troy team of year's past. They lost their top playmaker in jernigan, and havent been able to replace his production. After a very successful freshman campaign, their young qb appears to have taken a few steps back.

    They have never been great on defense, but this troy team seems to be giving up chunks on the ground more than previous years.

    If the total opens below 54, i will be on the over

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConferenceChalk View Post
    Does anyone know anything about Troy? I can't say I've seen them play much over the years, but I've bet them and always came out on the black. But two weeks ago I took them -9 at home at night and they got hammered by ULM. what the hell happened? Was that an abberation, or are they just not the same team the program is used to putting out. I'd like to take FIU, but if Troy is good enough to win this game I don't want to mess with it. Please advise!
    just a quick lookover the game tells you a few things...

    troy is coming off a home game against ul monroe where they only managed 126 total yards on o, and -14 rushing.

    they gave up over 500 yards last week to ulm, and they look to average giving just about that in sunbelt this year...and their run d is awful.

    fiu can run the ball, and they beat them by 17 last year at troy.

    once again, just a quick glance. sun belt is funny, but screw it...i see nothing there to indicate a close game. if someone else does please share.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman0713 View Post
    just a quick lookover the game tells you a few things...

    troy is coming off a home game against ul monroe where they only managed 126 total yards on o, and -14 rushing.

    they gave up over 500 yards last week to ulm, and they look to average giving just about that in sunbelt this year...and their run d is awful.

    fiu can run the ball, and they beat them by 17 last year at troy.

    once again, just a quick glance. sun belt is funny, but screw it...i see nothing there to indicate a close game. if someone else does please share.

    wow...fiu ran for 450 yards on them last year, and almost 700 total. i would say it has to be either fiu or a play on the total. see nothing to say troy in any way. why only 6 tho?

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    troy's 2 wins have come against 2 of the worst teams in college football at home. FIU has lost to duke close and the top 2 teams in sun belt. I like FIU

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    Ya I agree FIU will have the advantage in the run game because Troy is one of the worst rush d's in the country. Both teams like to pass, FIU has the better pass defense and the better pass O. Both teams prone to penalties. FIU wins the Turnover Margin...I'm certainly on FIU, lean on the over 55.5

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    Troy + Under.. at a first quick glance.

    Tues night primetime espn game, right?

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    Im on FIU and the over

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbsafety8 View Post
    Troy + Under.. at a first quick glance.

    Tues night primetime espn game, right?
    i don't see where it is on tv at all...not that it matters. give a few reasons why you like troy maybe? i think people miss the point of this. "troy and under" is supposed to mean anything to anyone? i see fiu clearly for the reasons i posted above, so tell me what i am missing. that is why this thread was created...to talk the game out and get everyone on the right side. not wanting to be an ass...but i am just wanting to know why you like troy at first glance.

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    Espn2

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    espn2 on my tv (orange county)

    Road team 5-1 in last 6 in this series.
    FIU last 2-6 ATS in last 8 as home favorite; 1-4-1 last 6 as favorite; 0-6-1 following SU loss.
    Both teams 0-4 in last 4 games overall

    It was a very quick look, mainly looking at history.. now looking at how bad troy has been this year and it's not too appealing to take them in any spot. ill look at it much more later.

    when 2 shitty teams are playing, i usually like to play the dog or no pick... not a rule or anything but likely situation.

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    FIU for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbsafety8 View Post
    espn2 on my tv (orange county)

    Road team 5-1 in last 6 in this series.
    FIU last 2-6 ATS in last 8 as home favorite; 1-4-1 last 6 as favorite; 0-6-1 following SU loss.
    Both teams 0-4 in last 4 games overall

    It was a very quick look, mainly looking at history.. now looking at how bad troy has been this year and it's not too appealing to take them in any spot. ill look at it much more later.

    when 2 shitty teams are playing, i usually like to play the dog or no pick... not a rule or anything but likely situation.
    ahh...trends. now i see what you were thinking. i usually don't even glance at them anymore, and i didn't here. thanks man for clearing that up...and gl whatever way you go. btw...i was thinking under too.

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    public on FIU. I cannot believe this is even a game that is on a betting radar. we'd probably bet powder puff if it were televised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman0713 View Post
    wow...fiu ran for 450 yards on them last year, and almost 700 total. i would say it has to be either fiu or a play on the total. see nothing to say troy in any way. why only 6 tho?
    yea that's my biggest question/concern why only 6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by qbsafety8 View Post
    espn2 on my tv (orange county)

    Road team 5-1 in last 6 in this series.
    FIU last 2-6 ATS in last 8 as home favorite; 1-4-1 last 6 as favorite; 0-6-1 following SU loss.
    Both teams 0-4 in last 4 games overall

    It was a very quick look, mainly looking at history.. now looking at how bad troy has been this year and it's not too appealing to take them in any spot. ill look at it much more later.

    when 2 shitty teams are playing, i usually like to play the dog or no pick... not a rule or anything but likely situation.
    wow interesting stats

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    yeah, quick look at trends... when i look at em carefully, i can usually weed out the pointless ones. often, they can all be pointless..

    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank View Post
    public on FIU. I cannot believe this is even a game that is on a betting radar. we'd probably bet powder puff if it were televised.
    bahaha so true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacers101 View Post
    yea that's my biggest question/concern why only 6?
    i don't know man...maybe just the perception of troy being a solid team from a few years back. i had no idea they were this bad until i looked at this game...and i have heard several others who thought troy was fairly good. i am taking fiu and the under. seems like overthinking these games has not worked for me so far this year. if they lose they lose...i play these weeknight games small anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frankthetank View Post
    public on FIU. I cannot believe this is even a game that is on a betting radar. we'd probably bet powder puff if it were televised.
    i love these little games...and if this was not on a weeknight i would go rather large on it most likely. those are the first games i look over...i just slide past the wisconsins and michigans to the e michigans and n illinois...lol. like this week...bowling green a steal in my opinion. best play i see on the board and nobody will be on it. guess it is just all about how each person chooses to look at things. anyways...whatever works. gl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife View Post
    Espn2
    man...this dish network guide sucks ass. wrong half the time. just switched from direct to save some money, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. just bought a 55 inch tv recently, and dish cuts off like half of my screen with their widescreen wanna-be hd. the guide is always wrong. this shit just resets sometimes no matter if i am watching something or recording something...to download updates every single day. anyways...just had to get that out there...lol.

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    i think vegas is trying to get some $$ back after the ass pounding they took sunday night in the nfl. sure they got some back w jacksonville last night, but they are looking for the kill shot early in the week, therefore laying an inviting line for fiu. i lean troy here, but not sure about a play yet. good luck though whatever play you make. just my 2 cents.

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    seems Troy always shows up for nationally televised games, still think FIU is the better team.
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    i agree, i have followed troy since levi brown was the qb and they do seem to crank it up a notch when they are in the spotlight. i am considering taking troy moneyline myself. i think the 6 is a gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman0713 View Post

    man...this dish network guide sucks ass. wrong half the time. just switched from direct to save some money, but it comes with a lot of drawbacks. just bought a 55 inch tv recently, and dish cuts off like half of my screen with their widescreen wanna-be hd. the guide is always wrong. this shit just resets sometimes no matter if i am watching something or recording something...to download updates every single day. anyways...just had to get that out there...lol.

    yeah, dish sucks balls. I just moved in with some friends and they already had dish so looks like I'm f_ucked unless I wanna pay to switch em. Eh, f_uck it. I'm always at the sportsbook anyways

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    Tough call, not the same Troy team of year's past....could see FIU winning by two touches.

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    2 of troy's losses to clem and ark, 2 really good teams, covered ATS ark. Fla Int beat louis and lost to duke. Leaning troy +.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandman0713 View Post
    ahh...trends. now i see what you were thinking. i usually don't even glance at them anymore, and i didn't here. thanks man for clearing that up...and gl whatever way you go. btw...i was thinking under too.
    Just curious but why are you leaning under? Both teams are all about the pass and there are going to be a bunch of prone to boneheaded penalties. If anything FIU has the better D and Troy's Defense as a whole is terrible. If anything, I would like to think this game goes over. FIU needs this win badly.

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    Fiu hasn't covered in a while they are sure for a big game who better than Troy to do it on? 6 is a fair number considering fiu has been playing like ass...fiu

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    Vegas has been getting murdered on these games during the week on ESPN, don't see that changing tonight.

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    SMART CHART

    TROY TEAM FLAINT

    22.7 PTS FOR 26.1
    34.7 PTS AGNST 23.0
    -12.0 DIFF. 3.1
    298.7 PASS YDS 245.0
    102.7 RUSH YDS 143.1
    287.5 PASS D 231.3
    173.3 RUSH D 125.4
    0.7 TO DIFF 0.0

    Troy is 1-5 ATS in its last 6 games
    Troy is 2-4 SU in its last 6 games
    Troy is 2-5 ATS in its last 7 games on the road
    Troy is 1-4 SU in its last 5 games on the road
    The total has gone OVER in 15 of Troy's last 21 games on the road
    Troy is 2-4 ATS in its last 6 games when playing Florida International
    Troy is 6-1 SU in its last 7 games when playing Florida International

    FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL

    Florida International is 1-4 ATS in its last 5 games
    Florida International is 9-4 SU in its last 13 games
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Florida International's last 6 games
    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of Florida International's last 12 games at home
    Florida International is 1-6 SU in its last 7 games when playing Troy

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    Lots of NHL tonight guys if you need some action...screw this sh*t game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theangryelf View Post
    Just curious but why are you leaning under? Both teams are all about the pass and there are going to be a bunch of prone to boneheaded penalties. If anything FIU has the better D and Troy's Defense as a whole is terrible. If anything, I would like to think this game goes over. FIU needs this win badly.
    yeah the troy d is bad. fiu wants to run the ball tho like most teams, and the troy run d has not much chance to stop them. i really see fiu scoring some points, but not so much the other way. the fiu pass d is pretty good. if you look at what they have done against these smaller teams it is really good, and i just don't think troy will move the ball much. just on the little sbr stats page...

    fiu pass d last 2 games:
    147 to arkansas state
    157 to akron

    troy has problems running the ball as well, so i just don't feel they move it much. last week they were held to -14 yards rushing, and they only ended with 140 total yards. the fiu run d is pretty good and has held several teams down real low. i got a screwy way of looking at games, but everything points to the under and fiu to me. wrong almost half the time tho, so what do i know?...lol. i'm just not overthinking it and trying to outsmart the "public" anymore, because all that hasn't worked this year.

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