[The Bet Master]

called the line U -3 in July and now it could close -3.5 or more yess

Doesn't really matter if they lose does it?

[Ice House]

super star running back Jordan Hall is back... does this mean pound the Buckeyes?

[Greyraptor]

super star running back Jordan Hall is back... does this mean pound the Buckeyes?

Not for me as this is his first game back and they are on the road playing Miami who is playing with revenge (can you argue double revenge since OSU beat them last year and in the NCAA Championship game in 2003?). This game is a no play for me.

[Ice House]

revenge? Miami don't care about Ohio State they haven't had a relevant football team since 2003

[inter1097]

Ohio State +3. The rest of the offense is going to rally behind Miller and Hall. Their mere presence will make the rest of the offense much better. If this team goes 5-0, you can expect something similar when the rest of the team comes back against Nebraska.

[brucesmall]

Not for me as this is his first game back and they are on the road playing Miami who is playing with revenge (can you argue double revenge since OSU beat them last year and in the NCAA Championship game in 2003?). This game is a no play for me.

Lets forget its jacory harris' first game back.

[Ice House]

and Miami had a week to get rusty last week

[Sportsnut1968]

I would make a small play on this game in Miami's favor.......Bauserman will face some big time pressure and make some mistakes...Our special teams worry me alot this year...Look for Miami to get a big play from special teams....Harris for Miami is a turnover machine....If he struggles, that just might keep the buckeyes in the game....Miami has alot to prove, and will be playing the revenge card.No way would I call Jordan Hall a superstar rb...I look for Braxton Miller to play in this game...I think we'll see Bauserman struggle with getting away from the pressure...Braxton seams to be alot more mobile..This is truely speculation on my part...Final score Miami 27 OSU 13

[GoBlue23]

Oh St defensive end Nathan Williams underwent knee surgery and is out this week. That is a significant loss, he and Simon are their top two defenders IMO.

[The Bet Master]

Oh St defensive end Nathan Williams underwent knee surgery and is out this week. That is a significant loss, he and Simon are their top two defenders IMO.

Definitely a big loss, but there is plenty of talent to step in . The defense is not going to lose this game, they will put us in a position to win this game, the big question is will the offense step up?

[LittleLarryY]

people like brucesmall think OSU is business as usual, love it

"better coaching"? yep, first time ever coach in first time ever road game is a clear advantage

No team continues to roll after taking a hit like OSU losing their coach, QB, RB, and other top players. USC went from elite to irrelevant in 1 season. OSU's collapse begins Saturday.

I definitely will not say that fickell is better than tressel, but I can guarantee that he is a more fiery type of guy. Kids love that type of coach. Plus, fickell will open up the playbook and not be so conservative.

Two things about the Toledo game. First Toledo is a great team and should run the MAC. Second, the game really wasnt as close as the score. Take out costly mistakes from both sides and buckeyes are clearly better (as they should be). Miller isn't ready. OSU is playing the lesser of two evils at qb.

[Sunde91]

Whelp, clearly a shortage of OSU homers here, surprised tbh

Agreed Larry, no question the Toledo game wasnt as close as the score

Total Yards
Toledo 338
OSU 301

Penalties
Toledo 14-102
OSU 2-13

Then the Toledo coach made the tactically brilliant decision to attempt a 50 yard FG with a weak kicker already up 1 point that was blocked and led to OSU's ONLY POINTS OF THE 2ND HALF, instead of punting and putting it on the 5 yard line.

Then OSU wanted to add some drama so they allowed Toledo to drive to the 17 yard line down 5 points with 1 minute left for shits and kicks.

Wire to wire domination by tOSU, sirs we are agreed here

[brucesmall]

people like brucesmall think OSU is business as usual, love it

"better coaching"? yep, first time ever coach in first time ever road game is a clear advantage

No team continues to roll after taking a hit like OSU losing their coach, QB, RB, and other top players. USC went from elite to irrelevant in 1 season. OSU's collapse begins Saturday.

Haha, never said business as usual, but what about Miami?? New coach? Death Penalty??

Oh yea and lets forget Ohio State still has Jim Heacock as defensive coordinator and Jim Bollman as Offensive coordinator. For some reason they sound familiar.

Luke Fickell has been with OSU for a while, played for Ohio State. Call it what you want, but do not insult my intelligence by saying this. Look at Miami.

Ohio State will not collapse, as Jim Tressel and Pryor are not and were not the only reason we won.

Please pound Miami, I beg you as you will find out that you are on the wrong side.

[pavyracer]

How did the line drop to +2.5 OSU? I thought everyone was unloading on Miami?

[Sunde91]

Yeah paver I said everyone is unloading on U

As long as OSU is ranked and are 3rd Favorites to win Big Ten, no collapse has happened. Line has already been slammed to -3 despite 60%+ on OSU. Is this still a trap pavy if it closes -3.5 or more need to know??????????

That's now 70

Big early money hit U -2 and then public hit +3 back. The point goes back to your genius statement that it was a "trap line"

Not a big deal if it's 2 or 3 as U wins by a TD+

[BernardMadoff]

OSU will win, hence the lackluster performance against Toledo.

[Pin Fish]

I saw Miami +2 as the opening line.......significant line movement.......Ohio State almost got beat by a mediocre team...watch what happens Friday night against Boise............the sgnificant fact is that Miami is getting their starting defense back......much more impotant the Jacoury Harris playing.......be very carefull outing money on the Buceyes in this situation..........

[kickenchicken]

two cheaters playin... shouldnt touch this but osu gots bigger money

[Ice House]

if you ain't cheatin ... you ain't tryin... GO BUCKS

[Ice House]

and by the Buckeyes cheating.... they got tattoos in exchange for autographs how is that cheating. The NCAA is lame. I hate the NCAA and their stupid rules but I enjoy watching college games b/c they are exciting.


and what did the Hurricanes do all they got was strippers, cocaine, money etc... it's not like they were stealing playbooks or putting exlax in the other teams gatorade cooler

[Greyraptor]

and by the Buckeyes cheating.... they got tattoos in exchange for autographs how is that cheating. The NCAA is lame. I hate the NCAA and their stupid rules but I enjoy watching college games b/c they are exciting.


and what did the Hurricanes do all they got was strippers, cocaine, money etc... it's not like they were stealing playbooks or putting exlax in the other teams gatorade cooler

EXACTLY! I think the NCAA needs to get a fargin' life. First of all, athletes private property (including autographs) should be allowed to be bartered for consumable goods up to a certain $$ amount IMO. I wish the NCAA would get a stick out of their ass about this type of crap. It isn't like the players were given cars by boosters or the other teams locker rooms were being wiretapped or anything.

[zuluhead1``1]

EXACTLY! I think the NCAA needs to get a fargin' life. First of all, athletes private property (including autographs) should be allowed to be bartered for consumable goods up to a certain $$ amount IMO. I wish the NCAA would get a stick out of their ass about this type of crap. It isn't like the players were given cars by boosters or the other teams locker rooms were being wiretapped or anything.

First, I want to say that I agree with you on what the rules should be. I think CFB players should be able to receive money from boosters AFTER enrollment. I honestly believe the NCAA should pay them weekly or the like. People always say "They get a free education, that should be enough." But a science major who gets a full ride is not prohibited from working internships or selling works, even though they aren't putting their bodies and futures on the line for the school week in and week out. Not to mention they don't generate near as much revenue for the schools.


That being said, the rules now have to be abided by. And the fact is, all the players sign an agreement that their likeness, autographs, etc aren't private property while they play in the NCAA, they belong to the NCAA. So, stupid rule or not, the OSU players blatantly broke a rule. Also, since you mentioned it, there are allegations (an probably and investigation) about cars being received in manners that break the rules as well

[Greyraptor]

First, I want to say that I agree with you on what the rules should be. I think CFB players should be able to receive money from boosters AFTER enrollment. I honestly believe the NCAA should pay them weekly or the like. People always say "They get a free education, that should be enough." But a science major who gets a full ride is not prohibited from working internships or selling works, even though they aren't putting their bodies and futures on the line for the school week in and week out. Not to mention they don't generate near as much revenue for the schools.


That being said, the rules now have to be abided by. And the fact is, all the players sign an agreement that their likeness, autographs, etc aren't private property while they play in the NCAA, they belong to the NCAA. So, stupid rule or not, the OSU players blatantly broke a rule. Also, since you mentioned it, there are allegations (an probably and investigation) about cars being received in manners that break the rules as well

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that they DIDN'T break a rule...they most certainly did! I was just saying that I feel that the rule should be changed due to precisely the point you had made in your statement. Athletes bring in MORE revenue than any other student, and take the greatest health risk. I think for those reasons, there should be some compensation, especially when the NCAA and university is most certainly benefitting from these players.

[pavyracer]

As long as OSU is ranked and are 3rd Favorites to win Big Ten, no collapse has happened.

Line has already been slammed to -3 despite 60%+ on OSU. Is this still a trap pavy if it closes -3.5 or more need to know??????????

Well it's -2.5 now. Good luck getting -3 or -3.5!

[zuluhead1``1]

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying that they DIDN'T break a rule...they most certainly did! I was just saying that I feel that the rule should be changed due to precisely the point you had made in your statement. Athletes bring in MORE revenue than any other student, and take the greatest health risk. I think for those reasons, there should be some compensation, especially when the NCAA and university is most certainly benefitting from these players.

The best example of why players should be paid and be provided insurance is Eric LeGrand from Rutgers. It is very hard to argue with the fact that his time at school as well as his paralyzation amounted to almost nothing.


Another example I like is Tyrone Prothro from Alabama. He was a fantastic receiver at Alabama who also performed one of the single greatest catches ever (against Southern Miss, YouTube it if you haven't seen it). As all Alabama fans, and a lot of other fans from around the country remember, his career was cut short when his leg was shattered in the endzone. He now works as a bank Teller at Regions in Tuscaloosa.

[Sunde91]

forgot to bump but

Da U

[brooks85]

as a buckeye fan it pains me to say this.. but my bankroll and I just wanted to bump a "I told ya so"

[Sunde91]

now they might bring in the Frosh QB in 1st ever road game @ Da U likely down 2 scores

[brooks85]

as much as i would love to see miller come in and lay a beat down, i doubt he is ready. He struggled against akron, can't put enough emphasize on that.

[ProfaneReality]

OSU will win. This line is the textbook definition of a trap.

[jjgold]

good call guy

[Sunde91]

Fukeyes couldnt stop a nosebleed against Jacory and now the Frosh QB throws a pick after they get a drive going

over/under total wins for fukeyes now at 6.5

[Sunde91]

Jacory still his shit self

[dice]

Some are calling this game the "Scandal Bowl."

[Sunde91]

Jacory looks fukin stoned on the sideline

He could cost U here if he doesnt wake up and throws more picks